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Leaked Photos of the 'iPhone 5' Logic Board

twosee said:
Actually I'm not opposed to the slightly larger screen. I think what the taller screen does is give it a true 16:9 ratio. Make watching movies, recording video etc much better.

But regarding what you said about "caving in", couldn't agree more. The one thing I admired about Steve Jobs (Aside from not allowing ______ to happen), is that he didn't seem to care about what the market was doing, at times ignoring market research. He did what he believed would work. Sometimes it worked out perfectly, many times it did not, but he preferred to lead and not follow. It used to be "Apple has abc, we should make abc". It seems that Apple is slowly moving away from that philosophy, e.g. iPad mini. Everyone else is doing it, we need to do it.
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I'm ok but not happy with a screen that is 4" long as it doesn't get more than that though I'm different than you, I wish they at least kept the same aspect ratio cause honestly, I don't see why anyone would use the iphone mostly to watch video/movies with. No smartphone will be big enough (Without being completely too big to be a phone too) for that. I think the iPad is kinda small for watching tv on (and I only need that for when I'm doing dishes/cooking) honestly. Other than that, I find 16:9 awkward for computer uses (yes, most monitors are going to that but that's cause it's cheaper for manufacturers to make one aspect ratio than two so since tvs are made that way, it's easier to just make monitors that way too).

And as for the 7" ipad, I think there is definitely a use for it (for what I want the ipad is kinda big. I only have one cause my mom gave it to me but I was not tempted to buy it and I would have easily been tempted to go for the 7" nexus cause it's exactly what I want. ANd if you can't tell by my sig, I have a lot of Apple devices so having an Apple tablet would have been nice for the integration with the ecosystem (but not necessary imho, it's a nice extra). I think for my uses for a tablet (I mostly want it to read books with but I do want to play some games, and yes, the ipad is kinda big for that too. My favorite game is a helicopter game and trying to hold the ipad and move it around gets tiresome on your wrists cause it's so big). So I'm an argument of why it may be good to do a 7"... here you have some one using an apple device willing to go to Android cause the 7" is a better size... and,well they want mindshare.. that gets me used to using Android. And what happens if I decide that Android has something else I like... well I'm already used to using it, it's a foot in the door to get me to change my mind and go with their stuff instead. In the end, Apple is about making money and needs to be regardless of one person's vision or apple goes away (and his vehicle for his visions would go away too). And losing customers is not making money.

Also, I'm not willing to say what we see now is a function of Steve being gone, for one it's way too soon to say that, for two Steve has already been known to say one thing and then Apple does another (whether it be because he changed his mind, was harassed into it, or was just misleading people when he said it cause he didn't wnat to give away what Apple was doing), so them now making an iPad mini... well that could have easily happened under Steve (as well as the bigger screen on the phone).
 
gertzen said:
Because Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs. Suppliers don't fear his wrath the way they did Jobs'. If Tim wants to have the same effect and achieve greater secrecy, he needs to get ornery and cut off some of the companies from which these leaks came.

And anyone who thinks these leaks are bogus is unfortunately still caught in Steve's reality distortion field... but there's no Steve in the equation anymore :(
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The Chinese don't care who is in charge.
 
gertzen said:
Because Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs. Suppliers don't fear his wrath the way they did Jobs'. If Tim wants to have the same effect and achieve greater secrecy, he needs to get ornery and cut off some of the companies from which these leaks came.

And anyone who thinks these leaks are bogus is unfortunately still caught in Steve's reality distortion field... but there's no Steve in the equation anymore :(
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Honestly, I have to say this is the first argument of "this is happening because Steve is gone" that actually has something smart to say (or at least has some logic behind it vs. "I don't like this so it must be Tim's fault" that is behind the usual, "This is cause Steve Jobs isn't here" arguments).
 
tigress666 said:
I'm ok but not happy with a screen that is 4" long as it doesn't get more than that though I'm different than you, I wish they at least kept the same aspect ratio cause honestly, I don't see why anyone would use the iphone mostly to watch video/movies with. No smartphone will be big enough (Without being completely too big to be a phone too) for that. I think the iPad is kinda small for watching tv on (and I only need that for when I'm doing dishes/cooking) honestly. Other than that, I find 16:9 awkward for computer uses (yes, most monitors are going to that but that's cause it's cheaper for manufacturers to make one aspect ratio than two so since tvs are made that way, it's easier to just make monitors that way too).

And as for the 7" ipad, I think there is definitely a use for it ....
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Hmmm, all valid points. I see your need for it. Never looked at it from that point of view. And you are right, we can never know if what we are seeing now is a function of Steve being gone, and yes... everyone has their limited time at the top. As GM, Sears, IBM, Sony even Microsoft now to some degree have had, Apples too will come to a slow. I just hope they continue to keep making great products, and continue to focus forward.
 
mossme89 said:
Look, the next generation iPhone will probably just be called "The New iPhone", kind of like what they did with the iPad. Apple tends to keep trends within their own products. And it makes sense since this is likely a very large overhaul of the device.
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So even your way confuses people when grouping the new with iPhone.

It's really the new "iPhone" some people even on this very site believe the new iPad is literally called "the new iPad"
 
lazard said:
followed by the Newer iPhone next year, and the Newest iPhone the year after.
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It's already been leaked the name of the new phone is miPhone.
*Pronounced myphone.

This is to help differentiate the new improved and larger phone from legacy obsolete iPhones.
 
gertzen said:
Because Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs. Suppliers don't fear his wrath the way they did Jobs'. If Tim wants to have the same effect and achieve greater secrecy, he needs to get ornery and cut off some of the companies from which these leaks came.

And anyone who thinks these leaks are bogus is unfortunately still caught in Steve's reality distortion field... but there's no Steve in the equation anymore :(
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Really?
What do you think the works of Tim Cook when Steve is still the CEO?
 
tuyylihk said:
Really?
What do you think the works of Tim Cook when Steve is still the CEO?
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Good point, wasn't that really Tim's job, not Steve's, in the first place? I don't think the supplier leaks are any different now than they were before. I think they are still almost incredibly impossible to prevent once you reach the assembly phase of manufacturing.

I still think the "doubling down on security" statement was directed at the phones lost in bars. I don't think Apple is as concerned about leaks of parts that don't even have a running OS. I think we've only heard of one prosecution ever on leaked parts and IIRC, it was for the original iPad parts.

Edit: Well, there was the supplier that sued over the iPad 3 dock connector
 
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A5x vs A6

The best possible chip they could put into the next iPhone would be:

Dual Core A6 (A15 architecture)
22-28nm Production
1-1.5 ghz Clock Speed
Next Gen Power VR Rouge


The safe option, which is a compromise would be to use the same A5x chip (now previous gen) architecture into their next gen phone featuring only a die shrink. But this is what I expect:

Dual Core A5
32-nm Production
800mhz - 1ghz Clock Speed
Same Graphics (iPad graphics at iPhone resolution is 2x faster than iPad)


The worst possible option, and not far off as a realistic possibility, would be for Apple to use the exact same 45nm A5x as in the current iPad.
 
i wonder. what happened to the infamous haptic touch feedback rumour prior to the iPad 3 launch. maybee..
 
It looking like left over, same bowl of rice I having yesterday. Nothing new mean for the 3rd time will be like baseball in you country, 3 striking and you go to the bench.
 
to be the front and back of the next generation iPhone logic board which houses the processor and other support chips for the device. The board is distinct from both the Apple's iPhone 4S and iPhone 4 logic boards.
 
nfineon said:
The best possible chip they could put into the next iPhone would be:

Dual Core A6 (A15 architecture)
22-28nm Production
1-1.5 ghz Clock Speed
Next Gen Power VR Rouge


The safe option, which is a compromise would be to use the same A5x chip (now previous gen) architecture into their next gen phone featuring only a die shrink. But this is what I expect:

Dual Core A5
32-nm Production
800mhz - 1ghz Clock Speed
Same Graphics (iPad graphics at iPhone resolution is 2x faster than iPad)


The worst possible option, and not far off as a realistic possibility, would be for Apple to use the exact same 45nm A5x as in the current iPad.
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Same here, I expect a dual core 32nm A5 with a slighty increased clock, A5X is built only to support the huge amount of pixels of retina iPad, no way the use a 45nm soc on the iPhone and a 32nm on the latest iPad 2... The new size of logic board could be for 1Gb of RAM and/or for LTE bigger chip
 
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interesting, so when assembling/disassembling this phone, I guess you have to take the logic board out to disconnect the battery? Its not nice working on live circuitry doing lcd swaps, etc. Looks pretty fun to dig into though i cant wait to tear it apart!
 
tigress666 said:
Honestly, I have to say this is the first argument of "this is happening because Steve is gone" that actually has something smart to say (or at least has some logic behind it vs. "I don't like this so it must be Tim's fault" that is behind the usual, "This is cause Steve Jobs isn't here" arguments).
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He's still wrong though.

A good manager, which Steve and Tim both are, would not cut off the production companies, because Apple also is dependent upon them and switching is too costly. It would therefore make sense that the contracts with the production companies contain penalties if any of the work in progress items leak out. It is very likely that Apple can recognise which charge of components is produced at what time in what factory, so identification of the factory that the leak came from is easy. The factories are incentivised to uphold security measures because the penalty is high and decreases their margin.

The wrath of Steve or Tim for that matter does not play any role in factories being more vigilant in secrecy. It is the severity of the penalties defined in the contract.
 
peterdevries said:
He's still wrong though.

A good manager, which Steve and Tim both are, would not cut off the production companies, because Apple also is dependent upon them and switching is too costly. It would therefore make sense that the contracts with the production companies contain penalties if any of the work in progress items leak out. It is very likely that Apple can recognise which charge of components is produced at what time in what factory, so identification of the factory that the leak came from is easy. The factories are incentivised to uphold security measures because the penalty is high and decreases their margin.

The wrath of Steve or Tim for that matter does not play any role in factories being more vigilant in secrecy. It is the severity of the penalties defined in the contract.
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Two possibilities I see. As that user mentioned that they were more afraid of Steve, since maybe because of Steve Jobs' personality, stubbornness and his "it's my way or the highway" approach gave the impression that he wouldn't care the consequences and do something reckless like cutting them off, take a HUGE hit and start from square one with a new supplier.

OR (as I've been thinking about this lately) could it be that now the releases are so close to the Announce date that they need to start production so early that it's inevitable that these parts become leaked. Before (And I'm not 100% certain, I haven't researched every product launch) they would announce a product and release it farther down the road, maybe a month or so. This way, mass production would only start days or weeks prior to the announcement. Seems now they announce a product and "you can place your order for it today!".
 
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