Leaked Photos of the 'iPhone 5' Logic Board

Cool. I have a Skyrocket in addition to the iPhone. The screen is 4.5" - and it just as easily flts in my pocket as my iPhone 4. The note, for me - I think would be too big and a "phablet" as you call it. But 4.5 - not bad at all. I will say now that as nice as the iPhone 4 screen might be - I'm not spoiled by the larger screen. When I look at my iPhone 4 screen now it's tiny and hard to read (size of text).

People adapt to change. Just like people have gone from thinking Mono was enough - to stereo - and now 5.1/7.1, etc.

People with gripe no matter what - but it's short lived. If Apple produced a phone that was 4.5 inches - people would balk - but it would still likely be the best selling phone to date and people would wonder how they ever lived before with the smaller screen. Just like when "retina" was introduced on the iPhone and even though people thought older models had a great screen - the new screen made them unable to look at their old iPhones.

For me the pocket size part is less important than the ability to use one hand and be able to access the whole screen. I can take my iPhone out of my pocket, hold it securly in one hand, unlock it, open and use apps, and relock it again without needing to reposition my hand at all. A screen much larger than the current size would make that difficult to achieve.

On the issue of screen size and text, I think a few things will come into play here. Apps are optimised for a small screen so when you're using apps that becomes less of an issue. Websites aren't always optimised but more and more sites are now offering either a mobile version or an App. Then you have Reader - I always try to use Reader when I can, or Instapaper. I spend relatively little time reading text on non-optimised sites.
 
If Apple produced a phone that was 4.5 inches - people would balk - but it would still likely be the best selling phone to date and people would wonder how they ever lived before with the smaller screen. Just like when "retina" was introduced on the iPhone and even though people thought older models had a great screen - the new screen made them unable to look at their old iPhones.

Sorry, but the future is smaller, not bigger. Until we have some sort of glasses mounted HUD like Google Glass, I'll stick to my smaller screen.
 
Cool. I have a Skyrocket in addition to the iPhone. The screen is 4.5" - and it just as easily flts in my pocket as my iPhone 4. The note, for me - I think would be too big and a "phablet" as you call it. But 4.5 - not bad at all. I will say now that as nice as the iPhone 4 screen might be - I'm not spoiled by the larger screen. When I look at my iPhone 4 screen now it's tiny and hard to read (size of text).

People adapt to change. Just like people have gone from thinking Mono was enough - to stereo - and now 5.1/7.1, etc.

People with gripe no matter what - but it's short lived. If Apple produced a phone that was 4.5 inches - people would balk - but it would still likely be the best selling phone to date and people would wonder how they ever lived before with the smaller screen. Just like when "retina" was introduced on the iPhone and even though people thought older models had a great screen - the new screen made them unable to look at their old iPhones.

You've got a point. People will adapt to the bigger screen if Apple came out with a 4.5"+, but personally, I like the "subtle change" route. Like the old saying, "if it aint broke, don't fix it". They are improving something that obviously is selling like hot cakes. I appreciate the smaller size as it's become my secondary mobile device. I mainly use my iPad for browsing, reading books/magazines, watching movies etc. iPhone is the on-the-go mobile where I can check my emails, send texts, some useful apps, maps etc. Oh and an occasional phone call ;)
 
I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is so adamant about using every single aspect of a smartphone with one hand. You can't even pinch-to-zoom with one hand. What is it, exactly, these people are doing where they can't use two hands? (that was a rhetorical question. I don't want to know :eek:).
 
Sorry, but the future is smaller, not bigger. Until we have some sort of glasses mounted HUD like Google Glass, I'll stick to my smaller screen.

I agree - the massive screen thing is a fad that will pass. I think people will start to feel that these massive, ostentatious phones are a bit crass, a bit showy. I still feel that 3.5” is more than enough for a smartphone. I can see the taller screen as having some potential benefits but it was never on the top of my wish list. I’m just glad they didn’t have to make the phone much larger to fit in the bigger screen. There’s something so pleasing about the shape and size of the 4S.

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I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is so adamant about using every single aspect of a smartphone with one hand. You can't even pinch-to-zoom with one hand. What is it, exactly, these people are doing where they can't use two hands? (that was a rhetorical question. I don't want to know :eek:).

A smartphone is a device you will frequently be using while out and about. Anyone carrying a briefcase, holding a handrail on a bus or train, drinking a cup of coffee, will want to be able to use their free hand. Sure, there are things you will want to use two hands for - I tend to text with both thumbs, for example, and many games require you to use both hands - but it only makes sense if you're designing a phone, to avoid making it necessary to use two hands most of the time.
 
I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is so adamant about using every single aspect of a smartphone with one hand. You can't even pinch-to-zoom with one hand. What is it, exactly, these people are doing where they can't use two hands? (that was a rhetorical question. I don't want to know :eek:).

I can zoom in/out with one hand no problem.
 
my theory is we will see 2 phones. The one everyone is seeing photos of, and then a higher-end model with a 4-5" screen and some other game changer.

but i will probably be wrong, and iphone 5 will be a 4S with a tall screen, and they will have all time high profits driven by overseas growth where people just want to own American brands

Unfortunately Superdude, I remember the same thing with the introduction of the 4S. Everyone was sure that the leaked 4S was just an cheap update to the 4, and the real iPhone 5 was that 'wedge' concept that some CG student threw up in 3DsMax, despite the fact there was no supporting evidence for it.

I can't blame you for wanting more, if only because I think its particularly lazy of Apple to try to play in the cheap end of the market by selling their 3 year old hardware at an artificially elevated price. But I think this leaked device is a really nice looking bit of kit and can't wait to replace my very old 3GS!
 
Look, the next generation iPhone will probably just be called "The New iPhone", kind of like what they did with the iPad. Apple tends to keep trends within their own products. And it makes sense since this is likely a very large overhaul of the device.

Makes since, but I really hope this comes on Sept 12th, I am ready for a new iPhone.
 
There is a slightly higher chance now that the processor that is said to be contained in the logic board is not a disappointed die shrinked, overclocked A5 but actually an A5X.
http://www.examiner.com/article/alleged-iphone-5-logic-board-leaked-to-the-web

This site particularly said that the logic board is slightly bigger, so they are currently assuming that the processor will be larger.
The A5X is actually NOT enormously large compared to the A5, but simply a little significantly large. As in, its not so LARGE, but it is certainly larger to an extent compared to the A5.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/20/new-ipads-a5x-processor-holds-few-surprises-despite-enormous-size/

We might see a die shrinked, underclocked A5X chip with quad core graphics, which is all die shrinked and manufactured at 32nm to become smaller and fit the iPhone's unibody (Advantages of a Unibody: Able place all components and parts together and they fit precisely and perfectly with ease). Not to mention the new iPhone is slated have more space due to the longer dimension. Also, with a unibody, you can fit larger components due to simpler assembly.

Also, if you manufacture the chip and die shrink it, you can achieve lower power consumption without sacrificing performance. As Apple is said to utilize Samsung's new 32mn process to manufacture its chips, you can manufacture the same A5X chip into a smaller dimension. The A5X chip on the iPad is manufactured with the 45nm manufacturing process because Samsung's factories and resources were still not ready to accommodate the manufacturing of a 32nm A5X for lower power consumption. (Because of the SGS3 and the low operating capacity of the factories that time) Hence, they instead upped the battery capacity by almost 70 percent and introduced lower power sipping internals.

Now, with the Samsung Galaxy S3's Exynos 4 Quad core Chip manufacturing at 32nm using the HKMG process, we can expect the same with the A5X. Why?
Last year, the A5 chip was manufactured at 45nm SIMILAR to the last year's samsung exynos 4210 (dual core) chip in its flagship galaxy phones. Means, we can expect the same manufacturing process with the Galaxy S3 to be carried over to the iPhone.
AND ALSO, not to mention Apple SECRETLY slipped an A5 chip manufactured at 32nm into the iPad 2 sold concurrently with the new iPad!
 
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Speaking of... I haven't seen the "Steve wouldn't have allowed these parts to get loose in the wild" post yet... you guys are slacking.

Steve wouldn't allow these parts to get loose. Apple is going downhill. Oh, you forgot, Tim Cook is ruining Apple! Waaaaaah!

And I'm sure there was a post about that somewhere anyways (I'm pretty sure I saw one). But if not, there you go. Though it's nice they aren't as common.

Now I just wish the frikkin people getting their pants up in a wad over the name would quiet down too and we'd have to argue if some one actually made a name post yet.

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I'm not buying the new iPhone if the logic board looks like that !

Ah, you're being silly. It's the name that is important! I'm not buying it if they don't name it the iPhone 3million!

(and sadly some one already did make the serious argument they weren't going to buy it if it was named a certain thing).

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I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is so adamant about using every single aspect of a smartphone with one hand. You can't even pinch-to-zoom with one hand. What is it, exactly, these people are doing where they can't use two hands? (that was a rhetorical question. I don't want to know :eek:).

Read posts on a forum, read a book, browse the internet, look at your schedule on the calendar, look up info on a contact you have, ask it to look at the address for the contact, take a picture, play sudoko (and some other games), etc...

There's a lot of things you can do that don't involve pinching and zooming. Or that don't require two hands except occasionally so you just have to free the other hand for a sec to use it.

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I agree - the massive screen thing is a fad that will pass. I think people will start to feel that these massive, ostentatious phones are a bit crass, a bit showy. I still feel that 3.5” is more than enough for a smartphone. I can see the taller screen as having some potential benefits but it was never on the top of my wish list. I’m just glad they didn’t have to make the phone much larger to fit in the bigger screen. There’s something so pleasing about the shape and size of the 4S.

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A smartphone is a device you will frequently be using while out and about. Anyone carrying a briefcase, holding a handrail on a bus or train, drinking a cup of coffee, will want to be able to use their free hand. Sure, there are things you will want to use two hands for - I tend to text with both thumbs, for example, and many games require you to use both hands - but it only makes sense if you're designing a phone, to avoid making it necessary to use two hands most of the time.


I wish I could up vote this more than once for everything you wrote there.

But yes, exactly. I wish Apple hadn't caved and made the screen bigger. Taller isn't much of an improvement anyways. And if nothign else, it will fit in my pockets even worse now (already a bit of it sticks out of the pocket, I wouldn't want more sticking out cause it would worry me more that it might fall out if I forget it's there and need to sit or lean down or something).
 
Apple is doing a great job at controlling these leaks, sending everyone down the wrong path until Sep 12 announcement :)

You know what I for one hope these are red herrings however unlikely that may be. While it is nice to have leaks, I prefer it to be more mysterious like from when before the original iPhone was released.
 
Steve would have never approved of a logic board design like this...

Unoriginal, been said already.

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You know what I for one hope these are red herrings however unlikely that may be. While it is nice to have leaks, I prefer it to be more mysterious like from when before the original iPhone was released.

Except for new products, my guess is that will never happen again.
 
Seriously, why would suppliers risk ticking Apple off and losing their business in the next round? Why would employees risk losing their jobs smuggling busted parts out of the shop? Why wouldn't Apple engage in a little disinformation to teach a few competitors a few lessons?

Because Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs. Suppliers don't fear his wrath the way they did Jobs'. If Tim wants to have the same effect and achieve greater secrecy, he needs to get ornery and cut off some of the companies from which these leaks came.

And anyone who thinks these leaks are bogus is unfortunately still caught in Steve's reality distortion field... but there's no Steve in the equation anymore :(
 
I wish I could up vote this more than once for everything you wrote there.

But yes, exactly. I wish Apple hadn't caved and made the screen bigger. Taller isn't much of an improvement anyways. And if nothing else, it will fit in my pockets even worse now (already a bit of it sticks out of the pocket, I wouldn't want more sticking out cause it would worry me more that it might fall out if I forget it's there and need to sit or lean down or something).

Actually I'm not opposed to the slightly larger screen. I think what the taller screen does is give it a true 16:9 ratio. Make watching movies, recording video etc much better.

But regarding what you said about "caving in", couldn't agree more. The one thing I admired about Steve Jobs (Aside from not allowing ______ to happen), is that he didn't seem to care about what the market was doing, at times ignoring market research. He did what he believed would work. Sometimes it worked out perfectly, many times it did not, but he preferred to lead and not follow. It used to be "Apple has abc, we should make abc". It seems that Apple is slowly moving away from that philosophy, e.g. iPad mini. Everyone else is doing it, we need to do it.
 
Cause they are, Apple are getting a ton of free advertising for their new iPhone here. Why pay billions for a pre-launch marketing campaign when you can just let out controlled leaks of the devices parts?
That was the point of my post. I think Apple is driving this even if behind the scenes. It's how Apple remains so dominate with headlines popping up all over the net about more than just the iPhone. It's a huge advantage for them.
 
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