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Unless you can magically charge it actual WIRELESS like through the air in a certain distance and FAST, no thank you. For example how are you supposed to charge your phone in your backpack tossing around? Attach it to the charging pad with stickers?

Simple, with a rubber band to hold the charging mat and phone together. Rubber bands will become yet another item to put in your Apple bag (together with the lighting cables, many adapters/dongles, charging cases and mats, etc)

port-less is not a good idea for everyone. im sure restoring software and backups will be super duper reliable and quick without a cable (insert sarcasm).

For what I know iPhone diagnose in Apple stores all work via lighting port, how will they switch that to wireless?
 
One thing that’s missed on the Lightning Vs USB-C discussion is video out and USB data at the same time. Lightning can’t handle it because it doesn’t have video out lanes, it uses the data lanes to transport the Airplay feed to the adapter, then it converts the signal to HDMI. So, you can’t use USB because it’s busy transporting the video file from the device.

The iPad Pro already features the HDMI signal over USB-C. You may ask, why would you need that on the iPhone?

I’d say, I need that for video monitoring and recording, I need that to edit in LumaFusion with mouse on an external monitor if it’s the only thing that I have access to.

And that would be revolutionary for an entry level iPad, if the next update makes an advance in the external display field.

When did using iPads with external monitors become a thing?
 
If I was playing a game I'd definitely want the long cable method. If I'm working and my phone is charing on my desk I can still answer text, email, etc while the phone is charging wirelessly on my stand.

And if you're working at your desk and your phone rings? Then suddenly wireless charging is useless again.

To be clear, I'm not saying there's no use or benefit to wireless charging, but it's by far less useful than just plugging in.
 
On other phones that are not iPhones. What I’m saying is that when the iPhone goes portless the technology is there to do very fast wireless charging.


The amount of waste heat generated at these charge speeds is being ignored here. There’s always a cost in converting electricity to a magnetic field. You may be putting in 40 watts but you’d be lucky to get 20 watts of that and the rest will be given off as heat cooking your battery. Heat from 7.5 watts Qi is already higher compared to charging my iPhone 11 with a 18 watt usb c to lightning charger

Thank you euros for this debacle!
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I can't seem to find this information anywhere but what are the specs of the smart connector currently in terms of data transfer rates, power transfer and any other details.
Well using the iPad Pro magic case charge speed through smart connector is not reassuring. I can charge twice as fast close to 40 watts with a 45 watt usb c adapter for my iPad Pro, but if I use the charge connector in the magic keyboard it’s cut down to 20 watts.
 
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I really dislike wireless charging because you can’t really use your phone while it’s on the charger without picking the whole thing up.

USB-C would have been nice since I’ve never had a USB-C cable fail, but every lightning cable fails.
 
For what I know iPhone diagnose in Apple stores all work via lighting port, how will they switch that to wireless?

Ah yes, pretty sure they probably didn’t think of that. Good job you mentioned it. I bet they’ll come up with a different solution when they read this. Phew. Disaster averted.

*EDIT* /s
 
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I wonder what their plans are for the vast majority of CarPlay-enabled vehicles that don’t support wireless CarPlay.

The only positive that I can see coming from this is that we finally get a first-party USB-to-wireless adapter for CarPlay vehicles.
I just bought a carplay2wireless. its on it's way here and I'm praying it works cus I've wanted it since I got m new car 3 years ago
 
The amount of waste heat generated at these charge speeds is being ignored here. There’s always a cost in converting electricity to a magnetic field. You may be putting in 40 watts but you’d be lucky to get 20 watts of that and the rest will be given off as heat cooking your battery. Heat from 7.5 watts Qi is already higher compared to charging my iPhone 11 with a 18 watt usb c to lightning charger

Thank you euros for this debacle!
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Well using the iPad Pro magic case charge speed through smart connector is not reassuring. I can charge twice as fast close to 40 watts with a 45 watt usb c adapter for my iPad Pro, but if I use the charge connector in the magic keyboard it’s cut down to 20 watts.
It will be refined by the time the iPhone goes portless and be more efficient as well as fast.
 
I really dislike wireless charging because you can’t really use your phone while it’s on the charger without picking the whole thing up.

USB-C would have been nice since I’ve never had a USB-C cable fail, but every lightning cable fails.
You can get standing wireless chargers so you can still use your phone whilst it’s charging.
 
Don‘t worry! There will be SmartConnector to USB-C adapters like there are for Magsafe and other stuff. 10-15 bucks on Amazon. So you can still just carry a USB-C charger and cable plus one Adapter. In adition to all the adapters you already carry for your 2015 onwards MacBooks ;)
 
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There is irrefutable evidence that Li-ion batteries fail much quicker over wireless and that you need to condition the battery (least on an iPhone) via the port and wire to get best results over time

This is true. Wireless charging creates heat (because of inefficiency), and it’s well understood that heat shortens battery lifespan.
 
Apple must be ready to guarantee all day battery life no matter how you use your device, which I doubt it is.

I don’t use battery cases and I only use power banks when I’m traveling internationally. Normally, my car (or a rental car) is where I will get a boost during the day if needed. So long as the connector is a strong magnetic connection and can still play music, it should be okay. I can wireless charge at home, but I will have to remember to do it every night - Apple should really improve fast charging for iPhones.

And Apple is NOT including AirPods with the iPhone. Not until they are so cheap to produce and/or they have become older tech to something new, meaning the majority will not want them by that time. Even then that is a big maybe.
 
The hate for a portless iPhone displayed in this thread is going to make for some good laughs 10 years from now.
 
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Just wait for the class action lawsuits for cancer or something else in the brain from using AirPods or similar things 10-15 hours per day after 10-15 years. Even though no studies have shown it yet if you look at ACS etc, some interesting things are there. Does RF cause issues? No one knows yet, but I prefer to have the choice of being in the control group on this one, not the experimental side.

What will California's Prop 65-type warning say?

Really no one knows yet, so no need to freak out - if you have the option for a wired connection, better to use it though.

Mayo:
* "the group classified radiofrequency electromagnetic fields as possibly carcinogenic to people." (Although who trusts the WHO fully)

ACS:

"The study found that when people had an active cell phone held up to their ear for 50 minutes, brain tissues on the same side of the head as the phone used more glucose than did tissues on the other side of the brain. Glucose is a sugar that normally serves as the brain’s fuel. Glucose use goes up in certain parts of the brain when it is in use, such as when we are thinking, speaking, or moving. The possible health effect, if any, from the increase in glucose use from cell phone energy is unknown."

"A recent large study by the US National Toxicology Program (NTP) exposed large groups of lab rats and mice to RF energy over their entire bodies for about 9 hours a day, starting before birth and continuing for up to 2 years (which is the equivalent of about 70 years for humans, according to NTP scientists). The study found an increased risk of tumors called malignant schwannomas of the heart in male rats exposed to RF radiation, as well as possible increased risks of certain types of tumors in the brain and adrenal glands. But some aspects of this study make it hard to know just how well these results might be applied to cell phone use in people."


Or cancer.gov:
"These experimental findings raise new questions as to the potential for radiofrequency radiation to result in cellular changes and offer potential avenues for further laboratory studies."

Or Sloan:
 
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