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Agreed, it is why the butterfly mechanism has to be the worst thing from Apple and must be some new record in unreliability test.

I mean obviously every product out there has some sort of weak spot but the fact they basically just put the old keyboard back in there is telling on multiple levels.
 
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Never say never and things don't stay the same forever dude.
Apple will *never* close off a stream of revenue, especially their overpriced "upgrade when you buy or you'll have to buy a new Mac* in X years".
 
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Apple will *never* close off a stream of revenue, especially their overpriced "upgrade when you buy or you'll have to buy a new Mac* in X years".

That's the problem of using less stellar proprietary hardware and Apple need to fix it by moving to superior M.2 form factor for greater repairability and performance.
 
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That's the problem of using less stellar proprietary hardware and Apple need to fix it by moving to superior M.2 form factor for greater repairability and performance.
No they don’t and I doubt they ever will why would they switch to a repairable solution when they can have massive profit margins with soldering parts in devices. If this was adopted they’d likely see a big drop off in people upgrading storage at purchase as they could do it themselves for cheaper which would result in Apple losing a substantial amount of money
 
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No they don’t and I doubt they ever will why would they switch to a repairable solution when they can have massive profit margins with soldering parts in devices. If this was adopted they’d likely see a big drop off in people upgrading storage at purchase as they could do it themselves for cheaper which would result in Apple losing a substantial amount of money

Apple offers that service as an option but it is ripping off the customer by locking out from upgradability, repairability by using a proprietary mechanism. It is illegal for Apple Employees to conduct such immoral practice.
 
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Apple offers that service as an option but it is ripping off the customer by locking out from upgradability, repairability by using a proprietary mechanism. It is illegal for Apple Employees to conduct such unethical practice.
I’m not sure of the laws and such but it surely can’t be illegal considering they have done this as well as many other companies for many many years. Also yes it can be seen as overpriced and to be ripping customers off but never have Apple ever claimed to be offering cheap hardware as they have always positioned themselves as a premium brand which often translates to higher prices
 
I’m not sure of the laws and such but it surely can’t be illegal considering they have done this as well as many other companies for many many years. Also yes it can be seen as overpriced and to be ripping customers off but never have Apple ever claimed to be offering cheap hardware as they have always positioned themselves as a premium brand which often translates to higher prices

it isn't a constraint in product like the majority of laptops that offer upgradability and repairability without forcing you to pay upfront for the cost and it's deemed illegal for Apple to not follow that procedure and not respecting the customer rights.
 
it isn't a constraint in product like the majority of laptops that offer upgradability and repairability without forcing you to pay upfront for the cost and it's deemed illegal for Apple to not follow that procedure and not respecting the customer rights.
Please point me towards the laws that say its illegal. A quick google search turns up nothing. As other posters have said, many other manufacturers do the same thing. Especially cheap laptops and chromebooks with soldered eMMC and RAM.
 
Please point me towards the laws that say its illegal. A quick google search turns up nothing. As other posters have said, many other manufacturers do the same thing. Especially cheap laptops and chromebooks with soldered eMMC and RAM.

Exactly. There is nothing illegal here and this has been a practice of Apple and many others for years.

Computers don’t need regular hardware updates in a lot of cases, often not even once in their lifetime. We are not in the 90s anymore.

Sure, being able to upgrade components is interesting for some geeks, but hyperbole and calling Apple’s approach illegal is getting nobody anywhere.

There are probably alternatives that these people should consider instead of hoping in vain that Apple stops their business model.
 
Exactly. There is nothing illegal here and this has been a practice of Apple and many others for years.

Computers don’t need regular hardware updates in a lot of cases, often not even once in their lifetime. We are not in the 90s anymore.

Sure, being able to upgrade components is interesting for some geeks, but hyperbole and calling Apple’s approach illegal is getting nobody anywhere.

There are probably alternatives that these people should consider instead of hoping in vain that Apple stops their business model.
Meanwhile Apple is leaning on lawmakers to make repairing your own devices illegal (aka Right to repair).
 
Meanwhile Apple is leaning on lawmakers to make repairing your own devices illegal (aka Right to repair).
Unfortunately so. But people can still repair their own devices if they can source the parts themselves and have the neccessary tools and expertise.. Many people seem to confuse the Right to Upgrade with Right to Repair. Right to Repair should be fought for, but Right to Upgrade is up to the manufacturer and customer to design and purchase future-proof devices.
 
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Meanwhile Apple is leaning on lawmakers to make repairing your own devices illegal (aka Right to repair).

Apple is not advocating the right to repair which can deteriorate the e-waste pollution significantly and that's a legislation announced from the government and Apple need to respect the right to repair laws.

"People just want to fix their stuff. We are tired of manufacturers price-gouging for repairs, selling us disposable electronics and pushing us to buy new instead of fixing what we already have," says Nathan Proctor of U.S. PIRG, the federation of state Public Interest Research Groups, an organization that combats malevolent special interests.
"Electronic waste is the fastest-growing waste stream in the world. It's high time we stopped manufacturers from blocking repair, which keeps devices working and off the scrap heap. It's better for consumers and better for the environment, and whether or not manufacturers like it, more and more people agree: We deserve the right to repair our products."
 
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