I have or had all 3, nothing wrong with Firetv, actually its my favorite UI and looks the most modern. The last apple tv turned me off with that stupid remote and the UI looks dated.
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Leaker Claims New Apple TV 4K to Launch May 21
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Faster user interface, subjective preferences, but possibly most compelling is the advanced format features which require high performance hardware. Things like Dolby Vision, HDMi2.1, discrete 5.1 high definition audio. Apple Tv is pretty much the only way to watch Disney plus (Mandalorian) with discrete 5.1 surround sound. This story is repeated for most of the other streaming services as well, it’s a hardware constraint, and a streaming service constraint, Apple delivers on both fronts. Those little $50 sticks don’t deliver the picture and audio quality that Apple Tv does. But bless them for trying! I think Nvidia shield is the only other product that can stream discrete 5.1 and even that’s hit and miss.
It’s a rumor... how could they not mention it? The guy’s track record was noted so it all looks to be properly contextualized.
"Serial leaker Prosser." I chuckled at that.
what would you use this remote with other devices for? Apple tv switches the input to itself and powers on the tv over CEC HDMI. If that is not happening, check your TV HDMI / CEC settings.
the atv is sweet. Also, you can side load stuff on it too so not sure what that means.
Never going to happen - MR piggybacks off him for the clicks just like you did by commenting.
If you’re against Prosser then don’t click on the articles with him mentioned.
Because FireTV’s UI is hot garbage. Where the stick excels is travel and using it in a hotel because it’s easy to get on the wifi network.
Roku’s UI is pretty good and it’s quick but you still get a 1/3 screen ad on the main Home Screen. I do like the RokuTV for main smart TV UI though. I just wish TCL made an OLED!
The main reason is probably that the tvOS UI is clean, fast, and the integration is top notch. All my favorite photos are on the screensaver and are nice to see when walking through the house. Apple Music is integrated nicely as is HomeKit (doorbell shows up on ringing, etc.). And Apple Arcade is actually pretty good. My kids have been using my Nimbus controller to play Sasquatch for the past few weeks, more than Minecraft, the Switch, etc. (that game is clever). Oh and there’s AirPlay 2 which is fantastic to stream pictures, video (now in 4K HDR) and audio from any other device.
It’s a bit pricey but worth it over the other boxes/sticks for daily use. You get what you pay for in this case.
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I do kinda want one as well but I have no issue with the current ATV4K and CEC... Turn on Apple TV goes, it turns on TV and goes to ATV input. Turn on PS5(or PS4 before it) it switches to PS5 input automatically. Hit menu button on ATV remote it would switch back to ATV input. Hit PS button on Dualshock controller and it switched back to PS5 input. And hold home and hit sleep and it turns everything off. It surprisingly worked really well. This is via an older LG B6 OLED but I total get CEC control is flaky and manufacturer dependent on its reliability. Between the LG , ATV, Sonos Beam and Playstation CEC has been solid.
I suppose a cable box or uhd/bluray player might need the input switch if it didn't have CEC but I don't have those.
My only other complaint with CEC is the ATV4K needs to be on to control volume (it sometime goes to sleep). I could use the IR volume with my Sonos Beam but I need to get a 3rd party remote to learn the right sonos IR signal as it doesn't come with a remote.
You're probably right about MR piggybacking. Not sure about that for me, as I have nothing to gain.
Besides, I can be interested in the topic - Apple TV - and click onto the news item without agreeing what a 'leaker' says about it.
A major retailer like John Lewis likely has information much more reliable than Prosser will ever be as they sell boatloads of Apple product.
The reviews are already brutally negative. When has an Apple product ever been given rave reviews? The nay-sayers are livid that the new remote can’t be tracked by Find My. And of course the ever present ‘overpriced and underpowered’, Roku/Firestick/whatever is better and cheaper, and any other negative they can think of.
And when the new Apple TV is in user’s hands will be treated with the usual “ I’m returning it because its doesn’t do this or that and is useless’ posts int tech blogs.
Any modern products support HDMI-CEC so you don’t need a switcher. Switching is part of it.
100% agree and the new FireTV UI just released to older devices is the icing on the cake to get the new ATV4K and replace the Firestick4K. For about a year the FireUI didn't bother me. People talked about ads but I had always assumed that the "ads" people talked about were program suggestions pushing amazon prime content, which didn't bother me, but then I had a full banner McDonalds ad on the suggested for you row... until I saw that I was content with Firestick4K as a lowcost alternative with robust app support but after that not so much. Sure I could use a 3rd party launcher like Wolf launcher and have a clean interface but the nice thing about the ATV is that it "just works".
I also find Apple apps to work better than their FireTV counterparts and tvOS usually gets app support right out of the gate, but in terms of app support the firetv is probably the closest. Its better supported that Roku or AndroidTV (again you can do some tinkering to get AndroidTV apps on the firestick and vice versa)...
tvOS, just like iOS and MacOS fully supports cross-platform engines such as Unity & Unreal, but Apple would have to make a push similar to AppleTV+ in which they lure AAA Studios and secure/finance exclusives to truly get the platform going.
A gaming version Apple TV with the very latest actively cooled A14X and a bundled controller wouldn’t hurt either.
Another advantage: games made for tvOS would be playable across iPhones, iPads and Macs with little effort, so, billion+ devices.
They could be in the game console market as a top player but for some reason they choose not to…
Firestick 4K and Firecube supports DV and Atmos on Disney+ (and Prime) just the same as Apple. Inexplicably Netflix only supports DV but not Atmos on their Firestick app... considering their AndroidTV app on the Shield supports both. I am not sure about the ATV+ app...
Unlike the lot of you, he has information that provides plenty of clicks.
I have to agree. We bought AppleTVs about 10 years ago and LOVED them. We then bought new ATVs about 6 years ago. Then, the times changed and more and more streaming came out, and Apple got stale and greedy. Apple has taken almost 4 YEARS to release a new AppleTV. 4 YEARS!
Last year I wanted to buy a new ATV so badly but I wasn't going to plunk down all that money for a 3-year old product. I took a chance and bought a Roku last October for $30 on Amazon and was AMAZED at how much better it was than ATV in every aspect, especially price. I then bought a 2nd Roku (this time the Ultimate version) a few weeks ago for $69 and it's even better than the first Roku.
For $150-$200 I don't see how ATV competes at all to Roku.
Agreed on this.
This dude has been “predicting” redesigned iMacs since last year or the very usual “x device, soon, sorry Apple 😘” to then nothing later. It does add for entertainment I’ll give you that.
But hear me out, I wouldn’t have clicked this damn article if the title had the “Prosser” typo in it. It just said “Leaker claims...” and I bit.