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With things still as they are, it would make sense to keep the products unreleased until the September/October event. Announce it all then and make whatever is available to ship available immediately after.
With people still facing uncertainty right now, it’s best to kick the ball a little further upfield.
Apple doesn't release new hardware until the macOS is released so your timeframe is sensible.
 
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It seems absurd to me that Apple would unveil a new industrial design for the Intel-based iMac. They would almost certainly reserve the new design for the first Apple Silicon-based machine.

Intel CPUs run far too hot for the new design. It’s absolutely Apple Silicon-based.
 
Remember this leak:

iMac Core i9-10910 3.6 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 4.7 GHz, 10-core, 20-thread. L3 cache 20 MB, and likely 95 Watt TDP.

With Radeon Pro 5300, the Geekbench OpenCL score is 32366.

 
It seems absurd to me that Apple would unveil a new industrial design for the Intel-based iMac. They would almost certainly reserve the new design for the first Apple Silicon-based machine.
The intel iMac might be a pro model, as I wouldn't have thought ARM is ready for Pro level Macs yet.

An intel iMac Pro in its old shell, and an ARM iMac in the new shell would be more likely.
 
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I'm guessing we'll see a new iMac Intel, although I'm not sure if it will be the old design or a new one.

As for the Apple TV, I'm still trying to figure out what benefit an A12 would be over A10X unless they add something else like more RAM and/or more storage. I'm not convinced they'd use A12Z but who knows?
I'm hoping for: Faster siri, menus and home automation. I'd also like higher end games. Separate from the processor, i'm hoping for a smaller form factor to mount behind the TV and travel with (unlikely), and a better remote (likely).
 
Intel CPUs run far too hot for the new design. It’s absolutely Apple Silicon-based.

This is a bit of a fallacy. ARM CPUs used in iPhones and iPads are most certainly thermally throttled. They can only run at maximum performance for short bursts at a time.

A desktop class system using ARM CPUs would likely have a higher TDP and active cooling so that the processor can compete with current Intel systems. Don't think that just because your new Mac might be ARM that it will be fanless.
 
This is a bit of a fallacy. ARM CPUs used in iPhones and iPads are most certainly thermally throttled. They can only run at maximum performance for short bursts at a time.

A desktop class system using ARM CPUs would likely have a higher TDP and active cooling so that the processor can compete with current Intel systems. Don't think that just because your new Mac might be ARM that it will be fanless.
This is very true of course. For example, with my iPhone 7 Plus (A10, which is still currently used by Apple), if I use third party software for software playback of certain hard to decode videos, it will work... but only for 10-15 minutes at a time. Then the video starts stuttering and eventually it just stops playing. The phone will be quite warm after that. If I wait a while and let the phone cool down, it will resume playing just fine, but again after 5-10 minutes it will stutter and stop again.

This is in contrast to hardware playback, where it will continue playing just fine until the battery runs out.

That said, I suspect that desktop Apple Arm CPUs will have better thermal characteristics than current Intel chips with similar performance. Part of the reason is that TSMC appears to be a full process node generation ahead of Intel right now. TSMC is roughly about a year ahead.
 
That said, I suspect that desktop Apple Arm CPUs will have better thermal characteristics than current Intel chips with similar performance. Part of the reason is that TSMC appears to be a full process node generation ahead of Intel right now.

Oh absolutely! But here's the thing; I'd rather they keep the new ARM systems' CPU TDP around the same as Intel's and give us kickarse performance than to use the better performance per watt to reduce TDP and give us uselessly thin desktop machines at the same performance level.
 
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Oh absolutely! But here's the thing; I'd rather they keep the new ARM systems' CPU TDP around the same as Intel's and give us kickarse performance than to use the better performance per watt to reduce TDP and give us uselessly thin desktop machines at the same performance level.
If the cooling systems of new non-Pro iMacs are similar to the old ones, I'd prefer they use cooler CPUs, because the current top-of-the-line ones are too loud.

Back in 2017, I bought a Core i7-7700K 91 W TDP iMac and returned it after a week because anything CPU-intensive would cause the fan to ramp up to max really quickly. It was really annoying. I returned it and got a Core i5-7600 65 W TDP iMac instead, and I'm much happier. It takes way, way longer for the fan to hit max, so for the vast majority of my usage, it is effectively silent. Reviews state that the current i9 iMacs are worse than the i7-7700K was, or at best similar.

OTOH, even better would be Apple improving the cooling system. They could even adopt the cooling system from the iMac Pro. According to reviews, that doesn't ramp up to loud mode anywhere near as fast as the i9 iMac models, despite having higher multi-core CPU performance than the i9.


No-one's suggesting they will
I think there is at least a small possibility they'd release a new form factor with Intel Inside®.


Why would you buy an Intel Mac now ?
Software compatibility.

If you're someone whose bread and butter work is highly dependent on an established Intel Mac based workflow, then it doesn't make sense to jump into Arm right at release, because there are bound to be various compatibility issues. Also, for those who buy on a 3-year cycle (with Apple Care), it's an easy decision, because if they buy in 2020, they can always replace it with an Arm machine in 2023. Remember, raw CPU performance is not the only reason to buy a new machine, and in fact, for a lot of workflows, it's not even within the top 3 considerations.

BTW, Arm Macs will not support any version of macOS before Big Sur. This alone will give some businesses pause, given that so many software companies take months before officially supporting new versions of macOS.
 
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"in my dream some products are ready to ship"
i know what it is - all the earpods and chargers not being included in the new phones release
 
Apple could introduce the new design with intel chip and swap them with apple sillicon.
As the new MacBook Air design with intel chip and a poor heat dissipation.
So you’re saying the computer that Apple had to wait for 40 years to introduce (their own custom silicon) will look identical to the model that just preceded it? No. The one thing that Apple and their customers count on is that the latest hardware looks unique so that they can show it off to the world. Just imagine someone bragging about how great their new ARM Mac is to someone else and the other person says that it looks just like their old Intel Mac so who cares.
 
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Some here will be disappointed when it’ll just be the same iMac with updated Intel chips.
Maybe an updated Apple TV and new over the ear headphones to round things out.
 
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I can’t see them releasing an iMac until September-October time. I think if there a random press release it may be for the Airpods Studio.
 
Why? It has been almost 17 months since the last iMac release. I'm expecting new iMacs in July.

Because if it’s the redesign with smaller bezels, then I don’t see them releasing it randomly without an event. October is usually Mac events for redesigns.
 
Because if it’s the redesign with smaller bezels, then I don’t see them releasing it randomly without an event. October is usually Mac events for redesigns.
I think that while we cannot completely rule out a new design, my gut feeling is that it will be the old design. With your reasoning, no such Mac event would be needed for that.
 
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I think that while we cannot completely rule out a new design, my gut feeling is that it will be the old design. With your reasoning, no such Mac event would be needed for that.

If it‘s a spec update then no event is needed and a press release could happen. However if it’s a big redesign (which is needed after all these years) then October would be my bet. Personally im really hoping for a redesign or at least smaller bezels. My 2012 iMac is getting long in the tooth and I will really need to update at some point soon.
 
otherwise known as hurry up and wait . . .

I like the catch words used here. Absolutely, will, never, must. We know absolutley nothing for sure other than Intel still in pipeline and Apple Silicon coming.
 
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Can not remember ever that Apple has introduced hardware at the WWDC a software only event...

Dude? L i t e r a l l y - - -> Last year, in 2019, we got the Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR.

2017 we got iMac Pro and HomePod.

Product refreshes happen - - like in 2012 & 2013.

iPhone 4 came out in WWDC too.
 
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