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No. Just wanted to check how it worked with Lenovo. Mine is working very well.
I might give W10 a try then, haven't used it since Windows 7 to be honest (and that was on a slow Dell desktop); don't you find the incompatibility between apps sometimes annoying? I mean, don't you miss the ecosystem package which Apple devices provide?
There has been some aspects but mostly I found windows apps to ruin better. Specifically adobe apps.
Overall I enjoy the higher level of control and customization that windows offers
Often companies want the opportunity to try to resolve your issue and make you happy, rather than process a return. But since you have the right to return for any reason within the 30 day period, you can simply insist that you have no interest in being connected to a technician and you would appreciate if they would simply issue you an RMA.
IMHO, I find Mac OS to be the best OS I have ever used. Windows has a lot of flaws when compared to Mac OS. Some of the most obvious are updates, no consistency what so ever, still using lousing registry editor, NTFS is really poor and outdated, and for small apps Windows 10 is the worst OS ever. For small apps part I'm not thinking about 3D engines, photo editors and development tools.
I'm thinking about small things as simple to use calendars, reminders apps, etc.
Mac OS in that regard is the best. I put that part on MS and no one else. Their API's are a complete mess. You can achieve a lot with MS and .NET, but they keep everything and not update it, they just move on.
But if you don't care about major apps like Photoshop or Office, for me personally, Linux is simply the ruler without competition. You can do whatever you want, however you want it, and do things that are simply unachievable on either Mac OS or Windows.
But since most of us need those major big shot apps, Windows is really OK. UI is a mess, but once you get a hang of it, it gets the job done and moves out of your way. Since Windows 10 doesn't have lots of fancy animations, it often seems it's just 2x faster then Mac OS while doing basic tasks like file browsing, etc.
I would say Win10 has it's downsides, like any OS out there. But nothing major you can't cope with. If you keyboard fails on MBP, well, you can't go around failing keyboard. But for few things on Win10 that will annoy you, well, go around them, disable them, or ignore them. But you laptop will still work like a charm, and it will get the job done.
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Great! I always found for example Lightroom to be a huge mess on MacOS, hopefully it’s not as buggy on W10. However I’d to add that some programs on Mac like FCPX are so well optimised; it seems like Windows is a bit like Android when it comes to serving a maximum amount of different devices.
Wow, such a detailed and thorough answer, thanks! Really, I don’t want to leave MacOS and that’s why I’m planning to use it on desktop if I decide to swap my MBP for a ThinkPad
Anyway, I think right now I’ll just use my Mac as normal, remember that apart from the keyboard I’m convinced it’s really a great machine. If the keyboard fails again, then I’ll definitely sell it. So let’s give the laptop another chance!
Wow, such a detailed and thorough answer, thanks! Really, I don’t want to leave MacOS and that’s why I’m planning to use it on desktop if I decide to swap my MBP for a ThinkPad
IMHO, that's where you'll make a mistake.
Use MBP as a mobile device, but if you want a desktop, go all in on a PC.
You can build a beast for cheap (at least compared to a mac), that will crush anything you throw at it. And it will truly make Windows 10 shine. I feel like win10 demands more hardware resources then macOS does. So MacOS will do better on laptops for example.
But not even iMP can come close to my Win10 desktop. And my win10 desktop cost is about $2K.
i7 6 core, 64GB ram, 1080ti, 1TB samsung evo 970, etc.
But cooling on my desktop is done by me. Not even a peep from my desktop, and everything works like a charm. And super fast. No animations, no thermal throttling, no problems at all.
And the best part is - I can do what I want from it.
If Apple fixes MBP, I will return because of Mac OS. But on desktop side of things, I have no plans for Apple at all. I will keep my desktop on Windows for ever. Building my own PC for my own needs is way cheaper, and way better then anything apple could possible offer!
That's the route I am going to go. Have my Surface Pro and Desktop PC and MBP as my only MacOS device.
Really depends on how my MBP will perform in the upcoming weeks/months. I wasn't considering building a Windows desktop but it's true that this option gives me the best flexibility and a great performance per cost. However I don't think the new Mac Mini is a ripoff for someone who doesn't game on his computer, equipped with a powerful eGPU it becomes a great machine to edit footage and to work on RAW images for a reasonable price.
Anyway, will keep you updated on this thread about my MBP keyboard, thanks again for your answers guys.
Cheers.
Agreed. I really like the new Mac Mini. I think that the Mini is one of the better jobs Apple has done with their offerings lately. Though if you do need the graphics power, the option with eGPU does become expensive, particularly the BlackMagic route. That eGPU does seem overpriced for a middling performance card that cannot be upgraded. However, I have seen a few threads of users successfully connecting other eGPU's to the Mini.
But since I do need to work in Windows anyway and do need the graphics and the ability to do a little gaming, for me the desktop PC offers the best value, flexibility, and upgradability.
True, Apple isn’t known for its great quality/price ratio anyway but the last Mac Mini is a good machine!
Tend to disagree as W10 is designed to be more scalable than macOS, needing to run on relatively low level hardware such as my i3, 4Gb, 128 Switch 5 (admittedly 8Gb RAM would be better) on my primary notebook 10 flies, equally it's as powerful as many a desktop. I do agree that there's a **** ton of baggage with W10, although I can see why MS is also stuck with it due to it's dominance in the "Enterprise".
If I needed a desktop, completely agree as price versus performance W10 is the only solution, Apple's neutered offerings are laughable at best; big numbers in small boxes, good for bar talk, thermally limited desktops
what an embarrassment.I'll reconsider the MBP if Apple produces something worthy, certainly not another "Pig with Lipstick" I need solution's that work not trite toys with built in obsolescence. If your going to present your product and / or services as professional, stack up and do so simple as that or stop ********ing...
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Well, mac OS runs the same on Macbook 12" and on iMP. Flawlessly. I'm talking just basic stuff, like web surfing, file browsing, office, etc.
Windows 10 on my wives X1C runs great. But not as great as it does on my desktop PC, or even X1E.
Just a personal observation, nothing scientific about it, and no actual facts to back up my claim.
Of course, nothing wrong with Win10 on any device, but the fact that it can run faster and smoother on better hardware is my whole point.
As far as scalability goes, mac os and windows are both great. But Linux wins hands down in that area, it can run on anything and everything
BlackMagic is the very last eGPU you should consider, as it's not upgradable. Personally I far prefer the GPU to be up to speed and inside the notebook as my work dictates mobility. Apple's squabble with NVIDA only serves to piss off it's customer’s who need superior GPU performance...
Apple needs to get back to considering it's customers and providing the best computing experience, not maximum margin and nickel & diming us at ever possible opportunity. Higher prices by default include higher expectations not the inverse, something Tim & Co should be mindful of...
Any of my junior's pulled the same nonsense as the current MBP they’d be gone instantly, as pissing off the customer isn't part of the endgame to ensure renewal of contract.
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Not in the slightest as under Tim & Co nickel & diming the customer is the default, as a direct result on top of the poor design decisions Apple had lost my personal and professional custom, as that's all Apple understands today...
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Regarding notebooks, I wholeheartedly agree about having a GPU inside the notebook that is up to snuff. I personally find having to have a semi-permanent dongle attached to my notebook in order to regain lost ports annoying, but an eGPU and a notebook has even less practicality for me.
However, for the mini, I can see the addition of an eGPU as a workable solution. Just not the BlackMagic unit. Like the Macs, they sure look nice, but the value for performance is just not there.
Significant performance gains for sure. It seems like a good performance value if you already own a 2018 Mac Mini and want to boost graphics performance or are moving from an older setup to the 2018 Mac Mini.
However, when he breaks down the value of moving from an iMac to the Mac Mini with eGPU and having to also buy a 5K monitor, etc., it appears the iMac is still the better bang for the buck.
I wonder if the random eGPU disconnects are an issue with the Mini in general? With the Sonnet eGPU? Or if one of the two was a defective unit and it is not typical of either?
I did a cost analysis of what desktop to buy in 2015, and no matter how much I sliced it, the iMac always came on top, even when you replaced the 5k 27" display with a 4k 27" display.
I'll give credit where credit is due, and the 2015 iMac is an excellent machine, it has some short comings but I got a powerful desktop for less then what I would have gotten from another maker. I think building my own was the only way I could have saved money but at the time, I didn't want to go down that path. Been there done that, as they say and I was done.
I am with you on that. I own a 2015 iMac myself and (for the most part) has been an excellent machine. Recently, I have been feeling that it is getting a little long in the tooth. I initially thought about waiting for the 2019(?) update and buying another iMac. But lately, I have been thinking more and more about getting back to building my own. It has been a minute since I last built one, having owned a string of Mac Pro's and iMacs over the years.
BIOS 1.19 is out. One of the interesting things:
Still not showing up in Vantage, so I've installed it manually.
Gonna test it out now for a few days, but turning off all of the tweaks for fans first.
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[New functions or enhancements]
- Improved thermal function to reduce the FAN noise.Still not showing up in Vantage, so I've installed it manually.
Gonna test it out now for a few days, but turning off all of the tweaks for fans first.