I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was along the lines of not having to burn a drivers disc again as they'd be included on the DVD. I guess that means every new mac you buy will also have the drivers on the disc, but what about updated drivers ?
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Leopard and Boot Camp: Faster "Restarts"
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I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was along the lines of not having to burn a drivers disc again as they'd be included on the DVD. I guess that means every new mac you buy will also have the drivers on the disc, but what about updated drivers ?
Yup, you're right
Steve: "No more CD burning to install drivers-they're on the Leopard CD"
i kno that i can put my computer into deep sleep, i have a widget, i can then start into windows if i hold option, so technically i should be able to resume from osx somehow. so thts basiclly done already. the windows part would be hard tho, thats true.
They'll include the drivers for all released hardware at the time of Leopard's release on the Leopard install disc. Updated drivers aren't a problem -- any new hardware comes with its own copy of the latest OSX's install discs and any new or updated drivers can simply by added to that specialized set of discs sent out with the new hardware.
um, I doubt it. As Steve implied, what we have are three ways of running the two operating systems, and a product to go with each:
Boot Camp lets you reboot into windows. One goes out of memory, another goes in.
VMware gives you a self-contained window with another OS running inside it.
Parallels can run individual windows applications, each in its own window.
at least, that is my understanding. Please correct me if I'm wrong...
Thank you! It seemed like I was the only one who understood why this feature had to be yanked (or at least half of it as you explained). However, you could always just disable it if the user has XP on a FAT32 drive, since it shouldn't be a problem with read-only NTFS volumes.
To me this is ridiculous. Aren't they going to continue updating the drivers after the release of Leopard? One would hope so. Then of course you'd have to burn a cd (or just copy to another volume using Boot Camp's existing feature) every time Boot Camp is updated. Unless of course Apple gets over their aversion to just releasing the drivers as a Windows accessible download. There is a lot of indication that this is in fact their plan (since they are now including Apple Software Update for Windows with Boot Camp betas).
I have to admit, even as a Mac Fanatic, I'm starting to become very disappointed with this WWDC, and that's even strictly from a software development standpoint. What with the lackluster Leopard announcements, the poor quality control of getting developers' hopes up with cool features and then yanking them off the web sites without any real explanation, and the half-arsed iPhone development "answer," I'm starting to see past Job's RDF.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see when the iPhone and Leopard come out. I'm still picking up a phone, of course, but I hope to see some better news in the three weeks leading up to it.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see when the iPhone and Leopard come out. I'm still picking up a phone, of course, but I hope to see some better news in the three weeks leading up to it.
It will probably be a "feature" only on the next generation of Macs. I don't think the current iMac/mini/Mac Pro have a "safe sleep" mode (save to hard disk) like the current portables do.
Simple. The feature is not ready. My guess is that OS X's version gets stuck in limbo occasionally. I know that Windows you can blow away the restore and start from a fresh boot. AFAIK Apple has no such option and really hasn't needed it since Deep sleep is used so infrequently on OS X.
Safe sleep has nothing to do with hardware. Its all implemented via software.
Safe sleep has nothing to do with hardware. Its all implemented via software.
Leopard has a new Finder.
Leopard has Quick Look.
Leopard has a new iChat with Quick Look integration.
Leopard has a new Desktop (no, not the background pic).
Leopard has a new Dock with Stacks support.
Leopard has a unified interface across all apps.
Leopard has improved Speech Services.
Leopard is being highly optimized to run on smaller devices (iPhone, Apple TV).
Leopard is 64-bit, top-to-bottom.
Need I continue? Hardly a point release.
Um, no.
Being a build engineer myself, I call BS. Build engineers don't know anything about the features of a particular product they are building, nor do they really care. All they do is take source code from a developer, run it through some form of compiler/linker/script and--hopefully-- a binary comes out the other end. This is then given to someone else so it can be tested.
Asking a build engineer about product features is like asking a boom mic operator why a movie character says a certain line of dialogue; the operator doesn't know or care-- their job is to make sure the audience can hear the actors.
Being a build engineer myself, I call BS. Build engineers don't know anything about the features of a particular product they are building, nor do they really care. All they do is take source code from a developer, run it through some form of compiler/linker/script and--hopefully-- a binary comes out the other end. This is then given to someone else so it can be tested.
Asking a build engineer about product features is like asking a boom mic operator why a movie character says a certain line of dialogue; the operator doesn't know or care-- their job is to make sure the audience can hear the actors.
Translation: The new drivers will be installed for you and kept updated using Software Update. Don't read so far into it.
That's not much of a question; just send the updated drivers down through the Windows version of Software Update as they come.
And I like it there. Does it bother you? Well, that's too bad.
All I know is I got an email on our users group from the guy stating that it was being yanked and less then an hour later it was removed from the site.
Besides for the 64-bit thing, (and Time machine, which you didn't mention) everything else is pretty minor. I agree that these features are nice, but by themselves they don't make a major release.
I too, have run out of Kool-Aid.
If you are angry they removed this feature, do what I did and send a feedback email to:
bootcamp@apple.com
If enough people voice their opinions, they will reconsider.
Steve
bootcamp@apple.com
If enough people voice their opinions, they will reconsider.
Steve
BootCamp updates are going to be installed via Apple Software Update on the Windoze side. Boot Camp 1.3 beta has a statement similar to that when you install it.
Or, you can go into the Boot Camp Utility Menu and choose "Download Drivers to Folder" ..that's how I updated to 1.3 on the PC side.
You mean a "Vista-release"?
- Unneeded eye-candy: check.
- "Glass" interface elements: check.
- New X.0 version of web browser, with few new features to justify version number jump: check.
- Revolutionary new filesystem dropped: check.
- Removing features prior to launch: in progress.
