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There's an old program I use that calls that function "Remember" which I think it way better.
 
pinstripes

I'm just wondering why the screenshots of these new features all have the 10.2-esque pinstriped backgrounds. 10.3 cleaned that up a lot and 10.4 looked much better, but those pinstripes got distracting back in the day (I think it was Thursday ;)).
 
I just upgraded to Tiger from Panther a week ago...so I am in no hurry for Leopard. I would consider getting Leopard earlier in the game if I knew it was a rock solid OS with awesome features. If 10.5 needs another summer to clear out the bugs (and if anyone actually looked at the list on the link, there are some pretty nasty ones), I for one am in no hurry.
 
I hope there are even more security features in leopard. I might not upgrade and just buy a new desktop later this year or next. :p

Can't wait for 10.4.9
 
I don't understand why everyone thinks Leopard is late. Steve said it will be out in Spring '07, we still have until June 21st.

The bugs could be a result of the engineers stripping out all of the "Top Secret" stuff.

Expect Leopard at WWDC. I think we're all in for a big surprise.
 
802.11N support for PPC Macs...

I'm far more interested to know if PC cards like the Buffalo WLI-CB-AG300N will be seen as AirPort cards and support 802.11N in MacOS X 10.5, like the Buffalo b/g cards worked in the past.. Getting N support for my PowerBook would be a big step in me buying the new APEn and the AppleTV...

jwd
 
If Apple really waits until June during the WWDC, there are going to be a lot of unhappy people who have been waiting and waiting and waiting for an update to the Mac Pro. Releasing a product in August and then not updating a single thing for it until June is just unacceptable in my opinion. Leopard or not, the Mac Pro needs an update.
 
I'm glad to see some news on Leopard..

The quicker the better. As soon as it comes out... I'm sure I'll be buying a iMac.
 
and who might your source be? june 15 isn't even a tuesday!

Past couple OSX releases have been on a Friday.

Where are the 'top secret' features? They weren't shown at the preview last year because maybe they were planned and didn't exist yet, or not ready for demo. Perhaps one or more of these have been dropped for 10.5.
 
Past couple OSX releases have been on a Friday.

Where are the 'top secret' features? They weren't shown at the preview last year because maybe they were planned and didn't exist yet, or not ready for demo. Perhaps one or more of these have been dropped for 10.5.

Think :apple: TV ,FCP 6.0,iTunes 7.1 ,QT 7.2 and NAB ;)
 
I'm far more interested to know if PC cards like the Buffalo WLI-CB-AG300N will be seen as AirPort cards and support 802.11N in MacOS X 10.5, like the Buffalo b/g cards worked in the past.. Getting N support for my PowerBook would be a big step in me buying the new APEn and the AppleTV...

jwd

You're going to be waiting forever. It's a hardware problem.

Sorry to break the news to you.
 
~correction~ june 11 or 15
Sounds reasonable: June 11 is the first day of WWDC. When Apple gives a time frame, it's usually at the tail end of that range. So "Spring 2007" screams June to me.

Ideally, we'll see previews of the super secret leopard features sometime in March, which will give developers a couple of months to debug it.
 
What the hell is wrong with everyone? Why are there still stupid people who think Leopard is getting released soon? How can you be this retarded? Leopard won't be released until at least 4 weeks after WWDC, which is the first week of June. That means expect leopard in July.

I'll bet anyone $5,000.

Geeze everyone get your head out of your ass.

Apple is ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO COVER NEW FEATURES by just telling developers "Oh buy the way... Leopard is released today.. so if you don't have your apps ready, and haven't consulted a palm reader in advance to know about the final features that we ONLY first discussed and finalized today.. You are really screwed."

WWDC will be Steve announcing the finalized features (many aren't finalized with Xcode 3 even, and it's full of bugs) not to mention bout 30% of existing apps DO NOT work with Leopard, nor will a bunch of pre-existing apps.
 
Have I missed something?

Where are the SECRET NEW features that Jobs hinted at. The ones he said he wouldn't reveal to avoid the photocopiers starting. Vista is out so why hide them now?

Maybe... Those new features relies on hardware that is not yet released?

Regarding Automator: I would like to see the option of turning Automator in to a system-service. If you now want to do something you need to actually run Automator. How about something like "every file dropped to this folder will be turned to PDF and mailed to xxxxxx@xxxx.com". And OS X would do that even if Automator was not running. Automator would then me the tool we know now (running one-off repettive tasks) and it would also be the tool that is used to create those system-wide tasks (like the one I described above).
 
I'm placing my bets on June '07 (WWDC)

My reason for saying so is pretty simple. It all goes back to the "iHub" digital media strategy. Apple wants to provide a seamless out of box experience when it comes to Hardware + Software and Leopard is the key to that success.

Its no coincidence that the iPhone is coming in June (as noted in the new ad), especially with Leopard development now in progress, it also affects the iPhone which I suspect is running a variant of it. So, its a case of the iPhone won't be completed until Leopard is completed.

Then again, the iPhone is coming in June, I am sure Apple would likely want Leopard and iPhone to have their own moment in the spotlight. So, maybe June is probably not a suitable time frame for Leopard's release. I'm looking at a possible late April, early May '07 release.

Right now, the different division's at Apple are putting most of their time into getting Leopard integration seamless. iPod/iPhone, iWork/iLife, Pro Apps, Apple TV folks. Thats a whole lot of work and I'm sure third-party application support is another factor, Adobe's Creative Suite 3 is one set of Apps I believe Apple wants to have in close proximity to Leopard's launch. Imagine having Leopard and still find out you have run Adobe CS2 on Intel.

So here's the time table:
Apple TV - Mid March
Updated consumer systems shipping with Leopard (10.5), iWork '07 and iLife '07 - Late April/early May
Pro Apps (Final Cut Studio 6) - mid to Late May
iPhone - in June
WWDC, updated Pro Systems - June 11
Bankrupt user - July and possibly forever
 
I don't understand why everyone thinks Leopard is late. Steve said it will be out in Spring '07, we still have until June 21st.

The bugs a result of the engineers stripping out all of the "Top Secret" stuff.

Expect Leopard at WWDC. I think we're all in for a big surprise.

The thing that bothers me about this statement is the rationale for Apple removing the "Top Secret" features, particularly at this late stage of the process. Personally, I really don't think that they exist and that we are already seeing pretty much all there will be. I don't think that this is necessarily bad since I'd upgrade simply for Objective-C 2.0 and Xcode 3.0 but this statement of "Top Secret" features will, I believe, leave an unpleasant taste in the mouth. I didn't understand why they wouldn't show them last year at WWDC since the reason given (Microsoft will copy and add them into Vista) was quite obviously nonsense given that Vista was due to ship in a couple of months. 6 months later this idea that if Apple shows the features then they'll be copied makes even less sense to the point that I truly do not believe that they exist (whether they ever did is another question). You can't add important new features to an OS without telling people well in advance. This leaves 2 options:

  1. The "Top Secret" features don't exist and Leopard stands a chance of being released around June.
  2. The "Top Secret" features really do exist but the OS will need to be delayed to give everyone a suitable amount of time to test and understand them.

Oddly, I do expect the first option to be the correct one but the second is also possible, as long as we don't expect to see the OS released before 2008. The more the silence about this release continues the more I think the "Top Secret" features are another "3GHz G5 Next Year" statement that will come back to bite Apple.
 
I'm not wearing a coat to work anymore. Therefore, I declare that it is in fact spring.

Therefore, I am impatient for Leopard/Widescreen iPods/New Macs/Pro-Baseball/Etc.

I BOLDLY PREDICT that MLB Baseball in the US will be released April 1, 2007 at 4:05 ET :cool: . At least for those of you on a continent lucky enough to see any of it.

Steve'o will release the secret features at WWDC and hand-out beta CDs of Leopard to all attendees. An open beta program will be opened to the general public for $19.95, which will be discounted from the full release when it ships.

But wait! There's more! What's this??? Leopard Server is such a huge leap over Tiger's server technologies that it will not even ship until November and will include Vista Server blasting features (i.e. an Exchange Killer collaboration services suite).

Order now within the next 10 minutes and Apple will throw-in iWorks 07 and iLife 07 with every copy of Leopard sold whether bundled with the Macs or boxed.

Oh, and here's the one more thing at WWDC to blow the walls down. Leopard will be the first Mac OS to ship in a Universal version and a Intel only version. Guess what the Intel only version can do? How about install on non-Apple hardware. News flash! Apple's been working up to this for some time now.

Boot Camp was just a proving ground. For what you ask? A hardware abstraction layer. Microsoft calls it HAL. This allows for Microsoft's OS to install on multiple vendors hardware and not give a panic. Apple created a HAL for Windows to run under with Boot Camp, so whatever Intel Mac hardware you ran Windows on, it would have no problem supporting the devices (i.e. optical disk, hard disk, mouse, bluetooth, etc.). This is the real secret Steve doesn't want anyone to know until D-day.

Now, THAT'S a quality rumor. High points for creativity and a bonus point for the "2001: A Space Odyssey" reference.

Never mind that it has zero chance of being even remotely accurate; I prefer entertainment over realism while waiting for new Leopard and new Macs.

I just upgraded to Tiger from Panther a week ago...so I am in no hurry for Leopard. I would consider getting Leopard earlier in the game if I knew it was a rock solid OS with awesome features. If 10.5 needs another summer to clear out the bugs (and if anyone actually looked at the list on the link, there are some pretty nasty ones), I for one am in no hurry.

Seriously, right on, what's the hurry?? I'm gonna run Tiger for 6 months after it comes out anyway...I stopped being the guinea pig after 10.1. 10.4.9 ought to be so smooooooth and worry free, why not enjoy it?? If I had two computers and a lot of free time, maybe, but apartments in France are really small...
 
I think Leopard is tied to new hardware features like HD LCDs and possibly other features. So I dont think we will see it until the hardware us ready - perhaps this hardware has been delayed for Leopard.
 
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