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[///mdriver]

I keep reading stuff like this. I don't think Time Machine works with the reagular harddrive. You have to use it with an external drive.

The way that he said it in the keynote, it seemed like you backed up to the hd within the computer, and when it failed, popping a new one in cured everything. I think the external may have been implied however.

 

[kerpow]

Pretty disappointing really. Time Machine doesn't look like much for laptop users. I'll still have to connect my external drive to the laptop which is exactly what I do now.

 

[bense27]

For the iChat Desktop Sharing thing, are you able to share files this way?

 

[Sky Blue]

and what is that?

It's like spring loaded folders in Tiger. If you take a file a hover it over a folder, after a couple of seconds the folder will open...the dock doesn't currently do this.

 

[adachis]

I am not hearing impaired, but I often watch TV and movies with the closed captioning on. I cannot really say what about it makes it more enjoyable to me--no one has ever understood why I do it, maybe it has to do with how I process information (I do have trouble listening in lecture classes, maybe a learning disability etc.), but my point is to say that I am also interested in getting closed captioning on iTunes shows.

I wrote to Apple on the feedback part of their web-site about this. I was wondering if you might know better what the law is about closed captioning. I always assumed it was required for network television shows. Is it not for network shows that appear online?

Anyhow, it's functionality I would definitely like to see.

I understand 🙂. And we caption lovers are ostracized for it. Everyone complains that we want captions on our media, that it's distracting. I don't know why I like it either. Perhaps there's a CC gene...

 

[electronboy]

Finder Improvements?

PLEASE Apple, update the Finder!

 

[jibberia]

It's like spring loaded folders in Tiger. If you take a file a hover it over a folder, after a couple of seconds the folder will open...the dock doesn't currently do this.

You're sure? I was hoping it would adjust the amount of time for a hidden dock to pop up.

I've been dying for that since 10.1 - though it's less of an issue now that monitors are gigantic and not so expensive. I use the dock always open on the right side and it doesn't bother my 30" screen real estate.

Still, though, using the laptop with certain programs... I could use the extra space... but I CANNOT STAND how long it takes for the dock to pop up when you mouse to its edge. It should be adjustable.

 

[playaj82]

Pretty disappointing really. Time Machine doesn't look like much for laptop users. I'll still have to connect my external drive to the laptop which is exactly what I do now.

Some have suggested it backs up in a non-destructive way locally.
Possibly keeping a local index on the current drive with nothing more than version instructions rather than 8 copies of each file.

Then when you get home and attach the HD, the latest version of the file as well as the latest index goes to the external drive.

???????? Am I completely wrong, maybe someone knows

 

[Sky Blue]

You're sure? I was hoping it would adjust the amount of time for a hidden dock to pop up.

I've been dying for that since 10.1 - though it's less of an issue now that monitors are gigantic and not so expensive. I use the dock always open on the right side and it doesn't bother my 30" screen real estate.

Still, though, using the laptop with certain programs... I could use the extra space... but I CANNOT STAND how long it takes for the dock to pop up when you mouse to its edge. It should be adjustable.

could be.

 

[digitalbiker]

Some have suggested it backs up in a non-destructive way locally.
Possibly keeping a local index on the current drive with nothing more than version instructions rather than 8 copies of each file.

Then when you get home and attach the HD, the latest version of the file as well as the latest index goes to the external drive.

???????? Am I completely wrong, maybe someone knows

I don't think anyone really knows and it could change by the time Leopard is released. But the way it was presented and the way it is described on Apple's site, it makes it sound like it only works with an external drive. However that could be expanded to .Mac or a temparary local drive space.

My concern is that it will go the way of file vault, buggy,slow, and waste of space at first. Not as useful as people think and then eventually just another piece of fluff. After all, I have worked with computers since 1976 and I have only had a handful of times that a time machine like app would have been useful. I am not sure if this would be that much of an improvement over just hooking up a 500 GB external drive every so often and using an app like carbon copy to clone my whole system drive.

Sometimes I thnk the average user worries too much about losing their stuff. Every once in awhile it is nice to clear out the trash. If it is something I really cherish then I will have a way to recover it.

 

[Cowinacape]

I had to give my thumbs up to Spaces, lots of third party apps for back ups, but
I really like the idea of built in virtual desktops.

 

[walkthruthewall]

time machine?

Time Machine sounds great but if it backs up everything you do all the time, wouldn't it take up huge amounts of hard disk space? especially if you had a lot of media or something it would seem to me you would need ginormous hard disk(s) to get so much backed up so frequently, or am I mistaken?

 

[digitalbiker]

Time Machine sounds great but if it backs up everything you do all the time, wouldn't it take up huge amounts of hard disk space? especially if you had a lot of media or something it would seem to me you would need ginormous hard disk(s) to get so much backed up so frequently, or am I mistaken?

Well disk space is probably the cheapest storage going these days. You can buy huge external drives at a very low cost.

Also remember that Time Machine only saves changes at the end of the day. If you read the description it backs up every night at midnight. So It makes an initial index of everything. Then it records the changes daily at midnight. It really isn't rocket science, this is just backup software with different eye candy for the GUI.

 

[ingenious]

actually, leopard isnt expected to run on non-intel machines. i know you said you are getting a MBP but just a friendly reminder.

Um, yes it will. Apple sold a PPC system until August 7, 2006 (PowerMac G5) so PPC will be supported for many years to come.

 

[ingenious]

I believe that's the Icon "bounciness"

I think it's the "spring-loaded folders" option from Finder prefs.

 

[ingenious]

It's like spring loaded folders in Tiger. If you take a file a hover it over a folder, after a couple of seconds the folder will open...the dock doesn't currently do this.

ohhhh.... 😀

edit: fixed emoticon.

 

[zooniverse]

some more new features!!!

from Apple Insider

iCal and Photo Booth 2.0 features added

Over at Apple.com, some new information appears to be turning up on what Leopard holds for iCal and Photo Booth.

On iCal:

"Make things happen with group scheduling in iCal for Leopard. Forget the guesswork and send meeting or activity invitations when you know people can attend. With iCal, you can view attendees’ availability before you schedule a meeting. Of course, if you’d rather let iCal do the legwork for you, a new Auto Schedule feature finds the best time for everyone."

"iCal for Leopard introduces a new way to share the files and information you need to carry off a successful meeting or event. With the event dropbox, anyone attending an event can share documents, contacts — even video — by simply dragging them into an event. Not using a iCal to schedule your event? You can still stay organized by dropping files into your events and sharing them by sending invitations that contain your dropbox contents."

On Photo Booth:

"Say cheese. Photo Booth is the easy way to take fun self portraits. Just choose an effect, pick a backdrop, and mug for the camera. From there, you can share via friendly integration with iChat and iPhoto."

Apple is also offering a rundown of new features in Xcode 3.0.

 

[TheMacPotato]

Not much to excite me in Leopard to be honest. The 'spaces' thing is just virtual desktops which is hardly a new thing and not something that i think i'd use (i hardly even use expose). Mail? Wow HTML stationery templates?! Just like we used to get in outlook express years ago. Time machine is good, even if it has got a way over the top interface (will it really have that naff star-system picture in the background?). The trouble is you still need to back up your files on something other than your HD (e.g DVD). What if your HD dies? time machine can't help you then!

 

[mandis]

64-bit support

The support for 64-bit applications is the most important feature in my opinion. We've been using C4D at the office a lot lately and god knows we could do with some faster rendering times. If the 64-bit support is as efficient as in windows x64 we're definitely getting a couple of new Mac Pros.

Here is what Maxon is saying about the advantages of 64bit:
http://www.maxon.net/pages/products/c4d/64bit/64edition_e.html

 

[nagromme]

Does anyone know of a site with images from the keynote's Tiger-Vista comparisons? I've always thought a lot of Vista's images were shockingly blatant rip-offs, but at present I can't view the keynote video with any quality.

TIA.

• It's almost 100% useless for laptops (you know, the fastest growing market segment for computers?)

I'm a laptop user, and I'll find it much less than 100% useless 🙂 I don't expect anything to give me total backup safety unless it's an external drive. That means I'm on my own to backup while in the middle of a trip (I just drag my latest projects to my iPod), but when I reach home base again, I have access to the external backup drive. That limitation is true no matter what the software does.

(Then again, I find Spotlight to be a lifesaver--albeit one I want to see improved--rather than "useless" 😛 )

 

[DiamondMac]

IChat and IMail were my favorite two.

I am a huge IM person and enjoy the newer IChat features.

Also love IMail's new soon-to-be-features.

 

[BWhaler]

I cannot believe after 6 years of iCal, Apple has not figured out to put in an option--just an option--to have reminders automatically set when you create an appointment.

Clearly Jobs doesn't use iCal. Mail, Safari, iLife, absolutely. You can see his touch.

iCal is still so bad it's not even funny. Even in Leopard. I can't believe it.

Well, it looks like short a new iCal being one of the Top Secret features, the app will keep its title as one of Apple's worst...

 

[Squire]

I cannot believe after 6 years of iCal, Apple has not figured out to put in an option--just an option--to have reminders automatically set when you create an appointment.

Clearly Jobs doesn't use iCal. Mail, Safari, iLife, absolutely. You can see his touch.

iCal is still so bad it's not even funny. Even in Leopard. I can't believe it.

Well, it looks like short a new iCal being one of the Top Secret features, the app will keep its title as one of Apple's worst...

Yeah, iCal is one of the few apps I just haven't gotten into. Perhaps with the Mail "to do" integration it will finally be worth its 38.7 MB on my hard drive.

-Squire

 

[CavemanUK]

i must of misunderstood something, but from what i recall that there wasn't going to be support for PPC Macs with Leopard. Unless, someone can correct me or find the proof about leopard.

Wow, you really dont think about stuff before you post do you!
sSo apple are gonna drop support for machines that they were still selling last week?? did you see how long it took apple to transition OS9. they still do to a degree. do you know how many PPC machines apple have sold? they wont just abandon that customer base.. it would be crazy...

and if your dumb enough to actually need proof, go here and read the whole page.. http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/64bit.html

 

[CavemanUK]

I know a lot of people are excited about Time Machine, but I was kind of worried last night when I showed it to one of my friends.

Unlike Expose, Fast User Switching, iTunes, Dashboard, etc... that have immediate impact and understanding as to why the features are so neat, Time Machine is actually rather complicated.

I explained and showed it to my friend, and she said, "so what, when I delete something it stays on the hard drive anyways"

All of us here obviously understand the significance of this program, but does anybody else think this will be difficult to market to the "average" user.

yeah, really apple should have made the system categorically require an external backup drive. That way it wouldnt have been confusing... when you delete its deleted but the file may be in your backup. As with any other backup solution.