Leopard Screenshots?

[Harpo]

The lack of a shadow on the right side of the Windows IE7 window is not a legitimate complaint — put one of your own OS X windows in the background, take a snapshot and shrink the image, you'll see. In the Leopard shot, there is a slight shadow on the right — try looking close with Cmd-Opt-8.

Good attention to detail, if it is a fake.

 

[SeaFox]

Also, some pages won't work if you're not in IE

yeah, poorly coded ones.

Yup, and that's exactly why we DON'T want Windows IE running natively on a Mac. With Mac users numbers growing and more people dumping IE on the Windows side for Firefox or Opera, the number of users who can view the pages correctly is going down. At somepoint there's going to be a tipping point where coding for Windows IE wont be "good enough" coding.

IE's slow fall is helping the internet become the platform agnostic place it was supposed to be until the first Browser Wars.

 

[Leondunkleyc]

Yeah, that definitely looks like an integrated iCal/Address Book app.

It just sent a tingle up my spine! Because if they do that, the next step is integrated mail/calendar/address book in a single app. Mmmmm, the tantalizing thought of Apple groupware!

Hmmm, I don't know, it would remind me too much of Entourage (I have an irrational fear of all Microsoft apps )

 

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

Yup, and that's exactly why we DON'T want Windows IE running natively on a Mac. With Mac users numbers growing and more people dumping IE on the Windows side for Firefox or Opera, the number of users who can view the pages correctly is going down. At somepoint there's going to be a tipping point where coding for Windows IE wont be "good enough" coding.

IE's slow fall is helping the internet become the platform agnostic place it was supposed to be until the first Browser Wars.

That's a good point....one thing I've always liked about Apple is they support standards. Microsoft, on the other hand, supports their own technologies (i.e. WMV, WMA, and now WMP - or Windows Media Photo). I can't stand Windows Media Video, although WMA is rarely used on the sites I visit.

 

[Leondunkleyc]

Yup, and that's exactly why we DON'T want Windows IE running natively on a Mac. With Mac users numbers growing and more people dumping IE on the Windows side for Firefox or Opera, the number of users who can view the pages correctly is going down. At somepoint there's going to be a tipping point where coding for Windows IE wont be "good enough" coding.

IE's slow fall is helping the internet become the platform agnostic place it was supposed to be until the first Browser Wars.

That's why in an attempt to shake off all things threatening IE from complete market dominance, microsoft has decided that the way forward is to go with the strategy that made them rich, if it's liked, steal it, if it's not, steal it, if no one cares either way, steal it.

 

[Billy Boo Bob]

Oh, and the Administrator user folder is missing in the shortcuts.

It could be that they have that turned off in Finder Preferences.

 

[Leondunkleyc]

Man can't people even get the friggin memory type correct in their fakes?

Proof (As if anyone needed it) that Mr. Dee's pictures are fake, the memory type was wrong until you made that post, then it seems to have changed itself... Maybe it's a sign of a computer revolution, beware of Arnold.

 

[Peace]

Proof (As if anyone needed it) that Mr. Dee's pictures are fake, the memory type was wrong until you made that post, then it seems to have changed itself... Maybe it's a sign of a computer revolution, beware of Arnold.

After realizing it was messed up :
http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=os519hc.png

Before realizing it was messed up :
http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=os517nw.png




[edit] edited for clarity [/edit]

 

[Billy Boo Bob]

Before realizing it was messed up :
http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=os519hc.png

After realizing it was messed up :
http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=os517nw.png

Hehe. Sooooo busted.

 

[Billy Boo Bob]

That "hole" effect for desktop switching is patently stupid. If you're going to have multiple desktops, chances are, you'll think of them as having some kind of side-by-side arrangement in 2-space. So if there's going to be a transition between them, something that shows an edge between them makes way more sense than the "hole", which implies that they're all stacked.

And it just looks dumber than any of Apple's eye candy thus far.

And this effect is integrated into Quicktime.
It can be used in various video editing programs.

I think it's more of a Core Image effect. If they do this multiple desktop thing, it wouldn't surprise me if they give the option to use any of the transitions available through CI. Take a look at Keynote. Most, if not all, of the transitions there could become available. Same for Fast User Switching, instead of just the rotating cube. So, if you don't like the one shown, don't use it. I doubt they'll force that transition as the only one you can use to switch desktops.

 

[BillyShears]

Yup, and that's exactly why we DON'T want Windows IE running natively on a Mac. With Mac users numbers growing and more people dumping IE on the Windows side for Firefox or Opera, the number of users who can view the pages correctly is going down. At somepoint there's going to be a tipping point where coding for Windows IE wont be "good enough" coding.

IE's slow fall is helping the internet become the platform agnostic place it was supposed to be until the first Browser Wars.

I disagree. Most people aren't going to want to run IE on a Mac. People switch to Firefox on Windows because it's better than IE. They keep IE around for compatibility, but they mostly resent it (this is real world experience with people that don't know much about computers). So people that switch to a Mac aren't very likely to want to use IE -- they switched to get away from that kind of software.


I also think IE on a Mac would be beneficial. I would say people that design websites are more likely to use a Mac, or would be more inclined than others.

But you can't design websites without testing in IE for compatability (IE still has a huge marketshare). So naturally designers would be pushed to Windows in some form.

Which would be fine, but Safari isn't available on Windows... so now websites aren't tested in Safari. Websites not tested in Safari means fewer people use Safari because it's a worse browser.

Fewer people using Safari means fewer developers testing for Safari... and repeat.

 

[Catfish_Man]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2196/rofl3dt.jpg

Thread over. Stunna wins the internet.

 

[bloodycape]

Any one notice how the battery meter is switched with with the network. Not to mention I don't see the sound icon. BTW what is that diamond icon in between the monitor and the battery?

 

[vhmalex]

Here is the "go to" button in action...

Note how the dock isn't centered. Ahem.

 

[Billy Boo Bob]

Note how the dock isn't centered. Ahem.

It is if you check out the corrected image.

Check out the differences (links found on another blog) (Images best viewed in two tabs of same window, then switch between the tabs):

Not centered:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1221/3225/1600/leopard_img03.png

Centered:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1221/3225/1600/leopard_img03.0.png

That given, I would like to change my vote to fake (what can I say… I voted before I read all the picking apart of the images)

 

[scotto07]

Seriously, even if it IS fake, who cares? I'm having as much a blast talking about it as I am having thinking about features of Leopard. It's more the spark to ignite Leopard talk than an actual, factual discussion of technicalities.

Diatribe hit that right on the money, this is about the fun and the rumors. the site is called MacRumors not MacFacts

 

[Billy Boo Bob]

Assuming now that this is a fake, I do like some of the ideas presented. Like tabbed Finder windows. Sounds real good to me. And what appears to be dropdown folder menus/shortcuts in the Finder window. I would certainly put them to use.

As for running Windows exe apps directly… I would think that they would force some kind of restrictions to keep all the Windows stuff on the Windows partition (or HD if it'll use multiple drives) in an effort to keep virus effects to a minimum. This would mean difficulty in saving Win app's documents to the Mac partition, perhaps, but most users would probably put up with a little inconvenience if it means higher security.

 

[Voidness]

not sure if this has been pointed out, but if you look at the list if "files" in the Documents folder that's being reviled there are only folders listed. what are the chances that documents folder only contain folders.

then again, maybe that's a new feature, in tree view you can do order-by too.

edit: oh, and the Administrator user folder is missing in the shortcuts.

My documents folder contains only folders

And yeah, I believe they're fake. Mainly because i didn't like them ... and because the word "Windows" in the About this Mac dialogue has different sub-pixel smoothing than the rest of the bold text (Processor, Memory, and Startup Disk).

attachments...

 

[Kelmon]

Although it does have a lot of good elements, and this thing has been thoroughly dissected here, my "fake" observation is this:

If OSX is running Windows apps the way they are depicted, where is OSX grabbing the icons for in the dock? Windows apps dont have icons with high enough resolution for the apple dock, do they? (I know Vista will support high res icons)

I happily admit to knowing f-all about Photoshop and image editing in general, but this is what set the alarm bells ringing for me. We all know that Windows doesn't support High Resolution icons at the moment, and one presumes that the virtualisation hinted at by these screenshots implies that we can simply install existing Windows applications and run them in much the same way we do OS X applications. Given this it seems unlikely that the Dock would display a high resolution icon for Internet Explorer 7 for the simple reason that one would not have been supplied with the application. Where does this one come from then? Most likely answer, given the other responses, is that it comes from Photoshop...

 

[MacRy]

Don't know whether this has been mentioned in this thread or not but the available disk space shown in the two finder windows are different. One says 68.42 available and you can only see the end of what is available on the first screenshot because the 'About this Mac' window is obscuring it but it ends with an 8. Wouldn't they both be the same figure?

Edit:

No i'm stupid aren't I - it's GB.

Must....look......more....closely....in....future.....

D'OH!

 

[mcic1984]

I happily admit to knowing f-all about Photoshop and image editing in general, but this is what set the alarm bells ringing for me. We all know that Windows doesn't support High Resolution icons at the moment, and one presumes that the virtualisation hinted at by these screenshots implies that we can simply install existing Windows applications and run them in much the same way we do OS X applications. Given this it seems unlikely that the Dock would display a high resolution icon for Internet Explorer 7 for the simple reason that one would not have been supplied with the application. Where does this one come from then? Most likely answer, given the other responses, is that it comes from Photoshop...

As someone explained earlier, Windows Vista supports icons up to 256x256 - that is bigger than Mac OS X Tiger's 128x128. (I think Apple was increasing it to 512x512 but forgot where I heard that from...)

 

[Voidness]

Relatively unchanged, but changed indeed in each version of OSX. Look back, they change tints, become less glossy, etc. I know its a detail, but it looks like a detail the creator forgot about.

Yeah, there were slight changes to the Apple logo on the menu bar, and even the menu bar itself. I made a quick comparison here:

attachment...

 

[Morn]

It'd be a beta, not even a beta some internal developer build probably, aka beta of a beta.
Being a beta it might not render all the text the same way yet considering that text would have been added into the about box.
And with the IE7 icon, vista does support high resolution icons, and maybe this is the vista version of IE7?

And clearly puma, juguar and panther all had the same apple icon. So the icon has stayed the same more often than it's changed.
I think this could easily be fake though.
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.p...nd_method_for_creating_tamper_resistant_code/
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.p...virtual_machine_geared_for_consumer_desktops/
These 2 stories do tend to support the idea of virtualisation in these screenshots. So whether it's fake or not, it might be close to the mark. What of the rumored database file system and metadata based finder though.

 

[Tomas]

The only 4 things that I can see that make me doubt that the screenshots are authentic:
Some things that people in this thread think will prove these screenshots fake don't prove them fake at all:
1) 10.5 without a build number in the "About This Mac" window. (On Tiger you click on the 10.4 to see the build number on 10.5 I would expect the same, even in the beta version.)

Beta versions of OS X show the build number by default.

The real reason for me that these are fake is simple, the IE icon is a full resolution icon with transparency. Vista should have full res icons, but the windows version is apparently XP 2 and that doesn't support high res icons. There is no way Apple would make high res icons for windows apps, because they want windows to look like **** beside OS X.

As for the people talking about how un-Apple like the peephole transition is, it's just one of the OS X transition effects. Along with slide, reveal, cube, dissolve, and so on. They are all built into the OS, and if they have a multiple desktop switcher, i'm sure they'd show off OS X's capabilities by letting you pick your own transition, just like with Desktop Manager (a great app by the way).

Fake in my opinion because of the IE icon and the lack of build data. Fantastic ideas for the finder interface though.

 

[hoppo99]

By now if the photos were real Apple's legal department would have already forced them to be taken down.

Also together with all the inconsistencies already stated above, if you look closely the icons in the dock are too near the top of the shaded region. The gap should be the same as at the bottom. Nice work on photoshop though and some interesting ideas, though I'm sure what Apple will come up with will be far better!