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Letter To Apple Re: App Store
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Unfortunately, America has fostered an environment which spits upon personal responsibility ... some bigger force always has to be at fault.
Holocaust is taught in World History. I took World History in 9th grade. 11 year-old is around 5th-6th grade.
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!"
"HOMER!"
"I gotta go Moe, my damn weiner kids are listening."
Age restriction of an iPod Touch? None, its yours (the parent) to set up. If you child wants one and you don't want him to know or have a mishap like this, then say no, you are too young. He will hate you or he will be smart to understand, but you know better, you are the parent after all.
Ok, wait a second here.
A few things don't add up for me here.
You seem to have your own iPhone, and enough knowledge to not only find the posts that you find offensive, but to take screen caps, and attach them to a post in a forum....yet you're completely floored when your 11 year old figures out how to find dirty words on the app store?
First of all...why would you buy your 11 year old anything without properly researching it to make sure it's safe?
I agree that Apple should moderate the reviews, but you can't blame Apple for you not paying attention. The fact is that as a parent it is your responsibility to understand what you are giving to your children and what implications that has.
So, my point is that sending letters to Apple regarding the questionable posts is completely legit, but adding in your personal failings as a parent doesn't exactly help solidify your point. Take the necessary steps to protect your child, and if the device(s) you're giving him are giving him access to questionable material, then perhaps you need to do your homework before you go around blaming others for not doing theirs.
A few things don't add up for me here.
You seem to have your own iPhone, and enough knowledge to not only find the posts that you find offensive, but to take screen caps, and attach them to a post in a forum....yet you're completely floored when your 11 year old figures out how to find dirty words on the app store?
First of all...why would you buy your 11 year old anything without properly researching it to make sure it's safe?
I agree that Apple should moderate the reviews, but you can't blame Apple for you not paying attention. The fact is that as a parent it is your responsibility to understand what you are giving to your children and what implications that has.
So, my point is that sending letters to Apple regarding the questionable posts is completely legit, but adding in your personal failings as a parent doesn't exactly help solidify your point. Take the necessary steps to protect your child, and if the device(s) you're giving him are giving him access to questionable material, then perhaps you need to do your homework before you go around blaming others for not doing theirs.
You cannot ask a child to study hard at school for a reward and then say no when they achieve their goal.
Thats absurd.
Personally I find it disturbing that you find your 11 years old son asking about Holocaust disturbing.
Too far on the right? Perhaps moving little to the left is what you need.
I think by 11 your son should start becoming familar with the Holocaust. I don't think it is too young an age.
When do they go through World War II? I think I did it in 5th/6th grade of which the Holocaust was discussed. That may be around 12ish, but still.
Certainly nothing an 11 year old should be protected from...
When do they go through World War II? I think I did it in 5th/6th grade of which the Holocaust was discussed. That may be around 12ish, but still.
Certainly nothing an 11 year old should be protected from...
A child doesn't need rewards to have a good grade. A reward is something you give because you feel he has struggled enough to earn it. Telling your son he'll have a reward in exchange for good grades is bribery and he will not learn for his own betterment, but because there is a reward in between.
Stop, giving rewards and watch your child loosen his grades because he will get used to them and not having them will mean you no longer expect grades.
Of coarse this post will be subjective as not all children act this way. There are always exceptions, but you shouldn't count 100% on them.
I don't get it...how is reading the review in the app store have anything to do with allowing your kid to use Touch or buy apps?
No wonder you find discussion about the Holocaust troubling, I bet you had trouble with "the birds and the bees".
I asked what apps he was looking at then when he went to bed we looked at them on my iphone.
It's as an when on the app store. Some apps have great comments some dont. How can i research what goes on when an app that was released last week has fine comments but an app this week has profanity all over it, it changes constantly thus need for moderation.
Personally i'm asking, would you rather have an app store with comments like that on or one without. You answer will say a lot about you.
Kind of like when parents complain about television programming.
"I am appalled because I walked in on my kid and he was watching this show that uses such horrible language. The TV network should be ashamed."
Never mind that the parent should have had exercised the discretion about which programming the child watched and had a choice to not let them watch a certain channel.
I understand some content is in poor taste, but Apple is marketing to a vast audience. Their business structure does not revolve around the OP's mores and beliefs about content. Accordingly, the OP is aware of this and should demonstrate parental discretion following his/her beliefs instead of blaming Apple.
LOL. what if he had asked for a subscription to playboy? would you have said no then?
also regarding the whole ipod touch age requirements thing, your complaint seems to be about the app store and the comments. the app store is a part of itunes, which has a "TERMS OF SERVICE".
http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SERVICE
whoops.
I agree with the OP that there are some comments on the App Store which are offensive, not only to kids, but to adults too.
Each person's opinion is as valid as the next. Can't we just take it as read and move on without getting so personal?
Each person's opinion is as valid as the next. Can't we just take it as read and move on without getting so personal?
Stirring up things how?
You're the one find a simple question about Holocaust disturbing.
You're missing the point again.
The point is that you can't act all surprised when your kid finds mature content on a device you gave him, and you didn't learn enough about to protect him.
If you gave your kid a magazine subscription and it had a girl in the middle wearing her underpants, would it be the fault of the publisher? No, it's your fault for not understanding what you're giving to your kid.
If you truly wanted to inform parents, your letter would have been how to set the permissions on the device to protect them, but what you seem to be doing is looking for someone to blame for you not being on the ball.
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