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LG's New UltraFine 5K Display Limited to 4K Resolution When Used With 2018 iPad Pro

Apple's approach to external displays over the last 3-4 years has been incredibly frustrating, bordering on depressing.

I just don't get why Apple can't produce an upgrade to the Thunderbolt display - 4K or 5K, with camera, built-in speakers, built-in mic, and a sensible line up of ports, such as Ethernet, USB 3, USB-C/TB3. Price it with a sensible margin. Mac Mini, MBP (and potentially future MacPro users) need an Apple designed solution.

I'd really like a second display next to my iMac that looks good, with similar styling and would also like to get one for my children to use as a docking station for their MBP's (with additional Apple keyboards, mouse etc.)

Instead Apple has spent time designing a really great high end display for the new MacPro - I get that it's a different market and there may be demand for that, but genuinely wonder how many XDR units will sell, versus a well-designed consumer display.
 
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iPhysicist said:
Where do you work? Post a link to your website please, id like to take a look at your achievements.
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How/why is my portfolio relevant? I don't design consumer electronics. Or do you think all designers do the same thing in hope they out-design Apple?
 
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You gotta love how many people hate this solely because it’s sold by apple. When every monitor with the same resolution is the same price or more. And it’s an lg product. Not an apple one. If this is expensive you should try the ASUS pg27uq. It’s only 3820x2160 and it’s $1900. Any monitor that has 2160 is expensive.
 
I dont get the fuss about the appearance of these displays, literally every other 3rd party display that people recommend on this site (that are cheaper than this) are hideous as hell looking, black and grey and PLASTIC. These are perfectly fine they get out of the way and the display quality is nice. if they have overcome the issues of the panels from the first generation that would be perfect. Apple is pretty much out of the Mac accessories department.


Killerbob said:
Is these ANY way of making this monitor work with a 2013 Mac Pro?
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https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210205
3840 x 2160 at 60Hz
You can use the LG UltraFine 5K Display at a resolution of 3840 x 2160 at 60Hz on these devices:
Mac computers with Thunderbolt 2 ports using the Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter
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BarrettF77 said:
It's got to do with the fact that Apple used to provide 1st party solutions to many things or were very particular about what they sell. This plastic junk is not worth $1300. I mean seriously?! Just because it originates from Apple Online doesn't mean it's worth the price of admission.
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Are you sure it’s not worth $1,300? Isn’t it less expensive than the competition? Sure, plastic is less durable than aluminum but it seems to suffice for maybe 99% of monitors sold. People apparently do not handle them with undue care.

Or is your complaint Apple doesn’t make a 27” 4K USB monitor for iPad Pro?

FYI you’re not entitled to a 27” 4K or 5K Apple monitor, and Apple is under no obligation to make you one. My guess is that unlike their 32” 6K monitor, there’s nothing particularly innovative they think they can bring to the 27” 5K space that would be of interest to very many users. Apple isn’t really known to making “me too” products, wouldn’t you agree?
 
PickUrPoison said:
What makes you think USB has sufficient bandwidth to carry 5K video? LG can do exactly zero to change that fact.
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USB cannot but (one of) the alt-mode(s) of USB-C can. This is essentially repurposing the USB-C port and cable by using all its main data lines for the DP protocol and turning the connection essentially into a DP cable with a (tiny in terms of data speeds) USB 2.0 side-channel.
 
dlewis23 said:
Not surprised at all. Totally what should be expected. Im sure future iPads will support 5K resolution eventually.
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It they get Thunderbolt 3/USB 4. There's not enough bandwidth on the current USB connection. It is, however, nice that non-TB machines can at least use the monitor now.
 
I'm staying with my 23" Apple Cinema Display HD that I bought in 2008 when I bought my Mac Pro that has since been replaced with a 2018 Mac mini.

And where are the 8K displays?
 
If you even notice the bezel on that display while using it, then your brain works nothing like mine.... Apple have hit it out of the park again. Now, everyone who can't afford sorry can't understand the XDR Display has something they can afford... sorry.. understand.
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doctor-don said:
I'm staying with my 23" Apple Cinema Display HD that I bought in 2008 when I bought my Mac Pro that has since been replaced with a 2018 Mac mini.

And where are the 8K displays?
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Where are the use cases for an 8K display?
 
Bustycat said:
It is just a connector. What it can carry depends on the alternative mode.
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And depends on the cable. As much as I am loving my one connector hookups, the fact that there's not platinum cable that works one EVERYTHING is annoying. You can use a USB-C (10Gbps) cable for Thunderbolt devices at reduced bandwidth but that shiny, active, 40 Gbps Thunderbolt 3 cable doesn't work on for non-Thunderbolt USB-C. This is more maddening than any adapter!
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0989382 said:
If you even notice the bezel on that display while using it, then your brain works nothing like mine.... Apple have hit it out of the park again. Now, everyone who can't afford sorry can't understand the XDR Display has something they can afford... sorry.. understand.
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I don't get it either. I have two of the older models. I think they look better in person than in pictures but it doesn't matter anyway. That panel is gorgeous and I don't want to get rid of the camera. It's amazing how often people gripe about "form over function" and then... demand it when they don't like the form.
 
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I have the original 5K. It's really a nice monitor. I have no complaints. Sure... maybe there could've been some minor aesthetic improvements, but overall, the design and picture still look good.
 
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And depends on the cable. As much as I am loving my one connector hookups, the fact that there's not platinum cable that works one EVERYTHING is annoying. You can use a USB-C (10Gbps) cable for Thunderbolt devices at reduced bandwidth but that shiny, active, 40 Gbps Thunderbolt 3 cable doesn't work on for non-Thunderbolt USB-C. This is more maddening than any adapter!
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I don't get it either. I have two of the older models. I think they look better in person than in pictures but it doesn't matter anyway. That panel is gorgeous and I don't want to get rid of the camera. It's amazing how often people gripe about "form over function" and then... demand it when they don't like the form.
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Exactly! Did you see the design of those Sony reference monitors Apple referred to at WWDC? These are the same guys on the forum who trash anyone who uses Apple as 'not pros' and have an impossible to meet criteria for every product they want to see so that they can say "no good for pros", as if they would know.. and then when Apple makes a pretty product they're talking about how "it's all form", then when they make this they pretend 'pros' actually care about the bezel etc. It's more about doing the job! No time to even complain about things like that! lol
 
manu chao said:
USB cannot but (one of) the alt-mode(s) of USB-C can. This is essentially repurposing the USB-C port and cable by using all its main data lines for the DP protocol and turning the connection essentially into a DP cable with a (tiny in terms of data speeds) USB 2.0 side-channel.
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You do know a converter only converts the cable connection point and they don’t add any extra capabilities. Thunderbolt 3 aso has more bandwidth than dp 1.4. Even if you use an alternative, if the device cannot send the signal it’s useless.
 
otternonsense said:
The HomePod is a "me too" product.
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Yes, it is just like . . . that other beam forming speaker with a 360-degree sweet spot that nobody else makes. Or did you mean Siri? Sure, other companies put their smart assistant in stand alone speakers before Apple did. Just like other people made phones with touch screens before Apple did.
 
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The HomePod is a "me too" product.
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Sure, but voice assistants, connected homes and music streaming outlets are important and growing areas for Apple. Music streaming, in particular voice driven one, does much better with dedicated hardware (unless you want to keep an iPad docked and connected to a stereo or to Bluetooth speakers for that purpose). Apple is all-in on Apple Music, offering a first-party client for the home strengthens that business. For Siri to be more successful, a standalone client with good speakers is also helpful. And the whole HomeKit system also is improved with a standalone client that has great microphones.

Apple displays make their laptops (and Mac Minis) more appealing but that is a less important area than all the things the HomePod can potentially do.
 
Efrainakaeze said:
You do know a converter only converts the cable connection point and they don’t add any extra capabilities. Thunderbolt 3 aso has more bandwidth than dp 1.4. Even if you use an alternative, if the device cannot send the signal it’s useless.
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Well, there are cables that have a DP plug at one end and a USB-C plug at the other. But I'm not sure that is what you mean.
 
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