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I love this article "It is not clear why Apple did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood.."

Here's a thought! Maybe the article should be changed to read:

"It is not clear why Apple or Sonos did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood..."

Or any other manufacturer for that matter.
What an absurd statement

It's like saying "It is not clear if every Tea and Coffee producer did not inform consumers about the possibility of white marks on oiled wood once hot water is added to the containing vessel"

Come on folks this is the second day of the ring nonsense. Put the Homepod or Sonos on a Coaster problem solved.

Time to move along to another subject.
 
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I love this article "It is not clear why Apple did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood.."

Here's a thought! Maybe the article should be changed to read:

"It is not clear why Apple or Sonos did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood..."

Or any other manufacturer for that matter.
Its perfectly clear, if there is any problem with Apple, fanbois will jump to their defence stating it's not the only device that xxx, instead of yes, its quite right that Apple should have highlighted that the device could leave marks and that you need to buy a $20 dongle, sorry "Pad & Quill Debuts New Leather $20 homepod mat"

That's like me crying "but other car makers fudge the emissions too, not just VW".

Apple should also be highlighting more prominently that the homepod only works with
  • Apple phones
  • Apple music
  • Doesn't connect to other mobile phones via bluetooth streaming like people will be expecting.
Whats next, a Apple car that only drives on Apple roads
and an Apple TV that can't record or watch broadcast tv on, oh wait, that's a real thing? Never mind :D
 
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Isn’t the real backdrop to this story and every other Apple story, is that when something is positively reported about Apple, then everyone goes out of there way do demonstrate that is is exclusively Apple and couldn’t possibly be achieved by any other company....oh for the goodness of Apple. However, something that reports any hint of negativity towards Apple and it’s products, everyone goes out if that way to try and demonstrate it is just as bad or worse with every other company and / or their products?
 
What an absurd statement

It's like saying "It is not clear if every Tea and Coffee producer did not inform consumers about the possibility of white marks on oiled wood once hot water is added to the containing vessel"

Come on folks this is the second day of the ring nonsense. Put the Homepod or Sonos on a Coaster problem solved.

Time to move along to another subject.

You're saying that pointing out that the problem exists with *more than one device* is an absurd statement? Sorry, but you're wrong here.

I'm not here defending Apple. I'm pointing out an error in the article that is only serving one purpose, and that is to drive inflammatory posts. What I'm not saying is "because Sonos doesn't say it that Apple shouldn't" you're twisting my words around to suit your narrative. I'm saying that MacRumors has an obligation to correctly print the entire story, not just the one that will garner clicks.
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Its perfectly clear, if there is any problem with Apple, fanbois will jump to their defence stating it's not the only device that xxx, instead of yes, its quite right that Apple should have highlighted that the device could leave marks and that you need to buy a $20 dongle, sorry "Pad & Quill Debuts New Leather $20 homepod mat"

That's like me crying "but other car makers fudge the emissions too, not just VW".

Apple should also be highlighting more prominently that the homepod only works with
  • Apple phones
  • Apple music
  • Doesn't connect to other mobile phones via bluetooth streaming like people will be expecting.
Whats next, a Apple car that only drives on Apple roads
and an Apple TV that can't record or watch broadcast tv on, oh wait, that's a real thing? Never mind :D

See above.
 
You're saying that pointing out that the problem exists with *more than one device* is an absurd statement? Sorry, but you're wrong here.

I'm not here defending Apple. I'm pointing out an error in the article that is only serving one purpose, and that is to drive inflammatory posts. What I'm not saying is "because Sonos doesn't say it that Apple shouldn't" you're twisting my words around to suit your narrative. I'm saying that MacRumors has an obligation to correctly print the entire story, not just the one that will garner clicks.
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See above.
The point I am attempting to make here is the HomePod is currently dominating the press. Any excuse to publicise the new Apple product.
Aside from the rings we have had the absurd Audiophile claim. Be it positive or negative it will have no bearing whatsoever to those brainwashed by the Apple Brand.
Sure I use Apple products but old ones but I do not worship at the Apple altar as many do. Remember when Steve Jobs was alive the HomePod would have been further down the list on products the receive media attention because back then Apple was about innovation as Steve Jobs had Pride, Drive and Ambition unlike now where Apple is driven by money alone as it is under Tim Cook.
 
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Its perfectly clear, if there is any problem with Apple, fanbois will jump to their defence stating it's not the only device that xxx, instead of yes, its quite right that Apple should have highlighted that the device could leave marks and that you need to buy a $20 dongle, sorry "Pad & Quill Debuts New Leather $20 homepod mat"

That's like me crying "but other car makers fudge the emissions too, not just VW".

Apple should also be highlighting more prominently that the homepod only works with
  • Apple phones
  • Apple music
  • Doesn't connect to other mobile phones via bluetooth streaming like people will be expecting.
Whats next, a Apple car that only drives on Apple roads
and an Apple TV that can't record or watch broadcast tv on, oh wait, that's a real thing? Never mind :D

You just love tossing that Apple fanbois out there don’t you?! So desperate to make an issue where none exists. Comical.

You don’t need to buy a mat for the vast majority of use cases. You need something to act as a coaster for that special use case that almost always needs a coaster for many products lol. Use anything.

And to liken some people needing coasters on oiled wood surfaces, to a company that deliberately cheated then lied about test results for 100% of their diesel vehicles...is so ludicrous as to make it clear your intent is to only satisfy some personal vendetta against Apple. Whatever. You were never going to buy a HP anyway.
 
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You're homepodding it wrong.

Yeah, except last time Apple gave away silicone rubber "bumpers" to solve the problem. This time, it's the silicone rubber that causes the problem.

Really, who the **** is in charge of testing things at Apple these days? Oh, I forgot - the consumer/end-user.
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First world problem...

What, furniture? Well, maybe. :eek:
 
Isn’t the real backdrop to this story and every other Apple story, is that when something is positively reported about Apple, then everyone goes out of there way do demonstrate that is is exclusively Apple and couldn’t possibly be achieved by any other company....oh for the goodness of Apple. However, something that reports any hint of negativity towards Apple and it’s products, everyone goes out if that way to try and demonstrate it is just as bad or worse with every other company and / or their products?

In which community or message board does everyone act like this? Care to point me towards that? Thank you :) .
 
Pocket-lint and Wirecutter pointed out the marks the HomePod left on oiled or waxed furniture.

Oil and wax finishes are rare. You'll find them on antique and handcrafted furniture and, even rarely, on pricier reproductions. These days, furniture finishes are mostly poly and lacquer. I'll bet that those seeing rings have been dusting or polishing the latter with oil-based cleaners—a no no.
 
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Well all I know is water marks on certain wood tables is something that happens.

I wasn’t debating that. I was debating that a speaker is designed to sit in one place to months and a glass isn’t. Glasses were designed around holding liquid and holding in your hand. They do both well.
 
"It is not clear why Apple did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood, as this is presumably an issue the company had to know about following the HomePod's extended beta test with Apple employees and the years of development that went into the product. "

This damn millennial generation. Are you serious? Do you need car manufacturers to inform its customers flooring your car will leave tire marks? Or if you drive on ice, your car might slip?
 



The HomePod's silicone base can leave white rings on some wood surfaces that have an oil or wax finish, a problem that Apple yesterday said was "not unusual." As it turns out, Apple wasn't incorrect -- the Sonos One, a competing smart speaker, also leaves white rings on furniture.

Tom's Guide reviewer Mike Prospero read about the HomePod causing rings on furniture yesterday and went to check his wood cabinet, where he did indeed discover a ring caused by the HomePod. But next to it, he found smaller square shaped marks, which had been caused by the Sonos One located near the HomePod.

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Image via Tom's Guide
Like the HomePod, the Sonos One has a silicone base with four small feet. It doesn't make a ring as prominent as the ring caused by the HomePod, but it does appear to cause the same marks.

White rings became a topic of discussion yesterday morning after independent reviews from Pocket-lint and Wirecutter pointed out the marks the HomePod left on oiled or waxed furniture. After the issue received significant media attention, Apple published a "Cleaning and taking care of HomePod" support document that warned about the potential for marks on some wooden surfaces.

Apple said it is not unusual silicone bases to leave mild marks, and that they should go away with time or with some light polishing. Tom's Guide reviewer Mike Prospero says that the marks do indeed appear to fade with time. From Apple's support document:It is not clear why Apple did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood, as this is presumably an issue the company had to know about following the HomePod's extended beta test with Apple employees and the years of development that went into the product.

A simple HomePod care support document published ahead of the HomePod's launch, rather than after customers were left to discover the issue on their own would have likely mitigated much of the negative press and frustration from customers.

For those who are concerned about the HomePod damaging their expensive wood furniture, Apple recommends putting the HomePod on a different surface to avoid problems all together.

Article Link: Like HomePod, Sonos One Leaves White Rings on Some Furniture


Not sure how you came to your conclusion but I can tell you that I own 4 Sonos One's and 2 of those units are on wood (real cherry wood) and have not experienced what you are experiencing. On a separate note, I bought the HomePod and did a review vs. my Ones. I would say there is probably a slightly better sound based on what you listen to and what your ear prefers, BUT I couldn't justify the price vs. Ones. I think Apple should have priced these at the high end of $299...plus that would have changed perception being in 2's vs. 3's.
 
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In the garage or driveway it leaves black marks.
I have never seen any tire marks on my garage floor or on my driveway even after I have kept my car sitting for months, for past 20 yrs of my car driving. Are you just making it up? The point is simple. If HomePod was kept for a month at the same position and left a mark, it's understandable. I bet it left mark on the table after a day or so. Right?
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why are people moving the speakers around? I placed it where I wanted 5 days ago and haven't moved it since.
Scared of the ring?
 
Only crappy furniture with poor materials make marks and are easily damaged. I doubt Apple anticipated people buying a speaker worth 1/4 of their monthly salary.

People should shift their priorities...?
 
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