Like HomePod, Sonos One Leaves White Rings on Some Furniture

[Derived]

...all rubber or silicon will do this on wood...this is literally the non-issue of non-issues.
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Here's the solution: use cheap IKEA furniture. Better for the environment, better for your mental health.

Using cheap, disposable furniture that must be replaced every year is better for the environment how?

I'll stick to stuff that will last a lifetime, thanks.

 

[zachcsnyder]

Apple designed this to be in the House, on a table. So that’s hardly a good example.
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How often does Android really crash these days?

Good point; not often. iOS 11 sure as hell does often. Android has become more reliable, iOS less so. What I should have said is the level of reliability between the two is divergent

 

[Michael Goff]

Good point; not often. iOS 11 sure as hell does often. Android has become more reliable, iOS less so. What I should have said is the level of reliability between the two is divergent

It’s kind of sad, isn’t it?

 

[flofixer]

This is pure speculation, but it's possible that the ability of the home pod to stain furniture may decrease with time. I suspect that there may be residual chemicals from the silicone curing process present in the fresh rubber that will dissipate in a relatively short period of time. (few weeks?)

 

[CPTmom2wp]

I love this article "It is not clear why Apple did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood.."

Here's a thought! Maybe the article should be changed to read:

"It is not clear why Apple or Sonos did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood..."

Or any other manufacturer for that matter.

.....including manufacturers of coffee cups, water bottles, energy drinks, perfume, nail polish remover, cooking pans, soda bottles, wine glasses, etc., etc., etc.

 

[MC6800]

Apple could solve this problem by having it walk around randomly on the table, like a screensaver. Would also help get the price above $1000...

 

[iMi]

Meh, no biggie. I sold my furniture to buy the HomePod. Two birds. One stone.

 

[JadawinUK]

Classic example of an Apple product behaving exactly the same way as every other product on the market, but getting bad press. Must be disheartening for Apple engineers, but it happens cause people love Apple and hold them to a higher standard. Simple as that.

So... if every product does it, why didn't Apple catch that before release and warn its customers? You know, those people Apple supposedly cares about so much? The manufacturers of "other product"s also don't act as if their products were made from unicorns and magically amazing like Apple does. But maybe this helps to show people that all that Apple offers is just like "every other product on the market", just more expensive and hyped and walled in.

 

[MC6800]

This is pure speculation, but it's possible that the ability of the home pod to stain furniture may decrease with time. I suspect that there may be residual chemicals from the silicone curing process present in the fresh rubber that will dissipate in a relatively short period of time. (few weeks?)

I haven't seen anything confirming the white ring is a residue; most likely it's the color of unoiled wood, from the silicone absorbing the oil under it. Easy to fix by redistributing the oil, though it can't be good for the silicone over time.

 

[dogslobber]

Put it on a mat instead of directly on the wood surface. What is the problem here? Don't do it and you won't have one. Nothing to see. Move along.

 

[warp9]

I can't believe Sonos copied Apple so fast. That was, like, Samsung fast.

 

[willnpc]

The HomePod's silicone base can leave white rings on some wood surfaces that have an oil or wax finish, a problem that Apple yesterday said was "not unusual." As it turns out, Apple wasn't incorrect -- the Sonos One, a competing smart speaker, also leaves white rings on furniture.

Tom's Guide reviewer Mike Prospero read about the HomePod causing rings on furniture yesterday and went to check his wood cabinet, where he did indeed discover a ring caused by the HomePod. But next to it, he found smaller square shaped marks, which had been caused by the Sonos One located near the HomePod.

Image via Tom's Guide​

Like the HomePod, the Sonos One has a silicone base with four small feet. It doesn't make a ring as prominent as the ring caused by the HomePod, but it does appear to cause the same marks.

White rings became a topic of discussion yesterday morning after independent reviews from Pocket-lint and Wirecutter pointed out the marks the HomePod left on oiled or waxed furniture. After the issue received significant media attention, Apple published a "Cleaning and taking care of HomePod" support document that warned about the potential for marks on some wooden surfaces.

Apple said it is not unusual silicone bases to leave mild marks, and that they should go away with time or with some light polishing. Tom's Guide reviewer Mike Prospero says that the marks do indeed appear to fade with time. From Apple's support document:It is not clear why Apple did not inform customers about the possibility of white marks on wood, as this is presumably an issue the company had to know about following the HomePod's extended beta test with Apple employees and the years of development that went into the product.

A simple HomePod care support document published ahead of the HomePod's launch, rather than after customers were left to discover the issue on their own would have likely mitigated much of the negative press and frustration from customers.

For those who are concerned about the HomePod damaging their expensive wood furniture, Apple recommends putting the HomePod on a different surface to avoid problems all together.

Article Link: Like HomePod, Sonos One Leaves White Rings on Some Furniture

No one bought the ridiculously overpriced not as good as the competition speaker so who cares, fake news

 

[AFDoc]

Sounds like Antennagate .... it's OK because we're not the only ones that do it.

Not really anything like that. It's got nothing to do with homepod or any other speaker... it has to do with the fact that some wood surfaces have marks left on them for various reasons..... People whining about it really have no life and need to go searching outside of apple for one.

 

[smoledman]

...all rubber or silicon will do this on wood...this is literally the non-issue of non-issues.
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Using cheap, disposable furniture that must be replaced every year is better for the environment how?

I'll stick to stuff that will last a lifetime, thanks.

Hella insulting man. I've owned IKEA furniture for 10+ years. Sure it maybe won't last a 'lifetime', but why pay 4-5x as much?

 

[AFDoc]

I agree its not biggie, but it does leave a heck of a mark. You'd think that would have been addressed, but they were clearly busy not finishing other features. I've got to say it.... Steve would have never shipped the HomePod. Should have waited till next Christmas when it could ship with all its features. Its not like Apple is worried about market share. They announced the thing early and it wasn't finished, missed the holidays and felt like since they already announced it and were making waves in the market place, they had to get it out as soon as possible. But they should have never announced it, and just brought it to market Xmas of 2018.

You people really need to get over this "Steve wouldn't have done...." bull poo.... It's stupid (you have no clue what he would or wouldn't have done), he's dead (has been for years so what he would have done means absolutely nothing), and no Ouija board or crystal ball will ever let us know "what steve would have done".

 

[griz]

Introducing iDoily.

 

[AFDoc]

A design error.
Highlighting others who have made the same error makes it worse.
Companies are supposed to learn from mistakes!

How is it a design error? If anything it's an error on the oiled woods side and NOT the homepod's. i don't own one, won't own one but people's stupidity makes my head hurt.

 

[ani4ani]

In which community or message board does everyone act like this? Care to point me towards that? Thank you .

Fair point....I should have been more specific, “everyone” meaning Apple supporters. Now I have myself clear, this community is a good example.

 

[DCJ001]

When I got home, I saw a large white ring, a telltale indication that the HomePod's silicone base had messed up the finish. But, as I was inspecting the damage, I noticed a series of smaller white marks near where the HomePod was sitting.

Article Link: Like HomePod, Sonos One Leaves White Rings on Some Furniture

The second "HomePod" should be "Sonos One." Right?

 

[Abazigal]

Nobody cares a crap about Sonos, so...

 

[dilbert99]

You just love tossing that Apple fanbois out there don’t you?! So desperate to make an issue where none exists. Comical.

You don’t need to buy a mat for the vast majority of use cases. You need something to act as a coaster for that special use case that almost always needs a coaster for many products lol. Use anything.

And to liken some people needing coasters on oiled wood surfaces, to a company that deliberately cheated then lied about test results for 100% of their diesel vehicles...is so ludicrous as to make it clear your intent is to only satisfy some personal vendetta against Apple. Whatever. You were never going to buy a HP anyway.

You don't know me, nor do you know how much Apple stuff I own or have bought over the years which amounts to more than most.

I just see Apple for what they are and tell it like I see it. I no longer drink the cool aid like a lot of sheep.
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You're saying that pointing out that the problem exists with *more than one device* is an absurd statement? Sorry, but you're wrong here.

I'm not here defending Apple. I'm pointing out an error in the article that is only serving one purpose, and that is to drive inflammatory posts. What I'm not saying is "because Sonos doesn't say it that Apple shouldn't" you're twisting my words around to suit your narrative. I'm saying that MacRumors has an obligation to correctly print the entire story, not just the one that will garner clicks.
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See above.

In the image, I see that Apple had a massive ring, could hardly see the one that the sonos made.
But both companies should make it clear not to use the device on certain types of surface.

This is an Apple site and it is fine to point out in the title that an Apple device is marking surfaces.

Truth hurts to some Apple fans

 

[nexusrule]

But that doesn’t mean something as little as the HomePod leaving a white mark behind shouldn’t be informed to owners that are not aware of the situation. Granted, This ‘Issue’ doesn’t need to be exacerbated , I think it’s informative to know what’s causing the marks and Apple addressed the concern, and what remedies to use IF there are white marks left behind. I know as a HomePod owner, I would want to know this, even if it’s minor.

I don't think it works that way. When you buy your oiled wood furniture the seller will tell you what to place, not to place on it, and how take care of it. That's it. You can't expect anyone who produces everything that can end on flat surfaces to alert what can happen on all the possible flat surfaces of all the possible materials. Everyone knows that. This is just a case of people being dumb, uninformed, having an axe to grind and newsmagazines to exploit them.
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You don't know me, nor do you know how much Apple stuff I own or have bought over the years which amounts to more than most.

I just see Apple for what they are and tell it like I see it. I no longer drink the cool aid like a lot of sheep.
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In the image, I see that Apple had a massive ring, could hardly see the one that the sonos made.
But both companies should make it clear not to use the device on certain types of surface.

This is an Apple site and it is fine to point out in the title that an Apple device is marking surfaces.

Truth hurts to some Apple fans

I don't need the maker of my pens to tell me to not write on the walls with them. I don't need the maker of my bleach to tell me to not wash the floors with it. The same way I don't need the maker of every food that's wrapped in paper to tell mr to remove it before putting it in the oven. Or of food wrapped in plastic before putting it in the microwave. This is really not different unless you are an 8 year old. When you buy oiled wood furniture you will be instructed how to use it and clean it. Then it's up to you to memorize the instructions. Not to the rest of the world to remember you anytime you buy something that could end on a flat surface.

 

[Machead2012]

HomePod "Lord of the Rings" reputation aside I can't confirm from personal experience but Im hearing that sales are soft and not up to standard on Apples usual launch campaigns.
Mistake #1. Should have made a universal product without prejudice and without so many limitations. Can't understand what R&D was thinking.

 

[dilbert99]

I don't think it works that way. When you buy your oiled wood furniture the seller will tell you what to place, not to place on it, and how take care of it. That's it. You can't expect anyone who produces everything that can end on flat surfaces to alert what can happen on all the possible flat surfaces of all the possible materials. Everyone knows that. This is just a case of people being dumb, uninformed, having an axe to grind and newsmagazines to exploit them.
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I don't need the maker of my pens to tell me to not write on the walls with them. I don't need the maker of my bleach to tell me to not wash the floors with it. The same way I don't need the maker of every food that's wrapped in paper to tell mr to remove it before putting it in the oven. Or of food wrapped in plastic before putting it in the microwave. This is really not different unless you are an 8 year old. When you buy oiled wood furniture you will be instructed how to use it and clean it. Then it's up to you to memorize the instructions. Not to the rest of the world to remember you anytime you buy something that could end on a flat surface.

Such a strawman argument.
Its obvious you don't put plastic in an oven.
Its not obvious that putting a speaker on a piece of furniture would mark it.

 

[44267547]

I don't think it works that way. When you buy your oiled wood furniture the seller will tell you what to place, not to place on it, and how take care of it. That's it.

I would be willing to believe that many don’t care or are simply ignorant how they treat their furniture and what they place on it. No one would have thought the HomePod would leave behind a white scuff on their furniture, even as minor as it is, it’s still something that Apple addressed being that it would naturally draw concern for those who don’t know what it is.

You can't expect anyone who produces everything that can end on flat surfaces to alert what can happen on all the possible flat surfaces of all the possible materials. Everyone knows that. This is just a case of people being dumb, uninformed, having an axe to grind and newsmagazines to exploit them.

I think it would have been beneficial if Apple would Have had a disclaimer Before the launch with the HomePod, but nonetheless, they did address it immediately. But you can’t label people “Dumb” because others are not aware what caused the white scuff to begin with. I don’t think that’s a fair statement and some were not expecting $350 product to leave behind a white scuff, even if it is a minor issue that can be removed.