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is 4AM when the store goes back up? Won't it be easier to check if the store goes down at around midnight?

Also, what time zone is 4AM? What time does the store usually go down if an update is happening? (also the timezone:p)
 
is 4AM when the store goes back up? Won't it be easier to check if the store goes down at around midnight?

Also, what time zone is 4AM? What time does the store usually go down if an update is happening? (also the timezone:p)

I think the 4AM people are referring to is eastern time. I'm not sure when it would go down though.
 
4am is referring to the black iPhone 4 launch. The store went down around 1am EDT and came back up around 4am EDT.

It was weird because Apple typically brings the store down around 6am EDT and back up around 9am EDT. Most people didn't expect it to be that early. Especially since it went down at 10pm PDT the previous day, so it actually "started" a day early.

Anyway, I think that was probably a special circumstance. If I had to guess, I'd say Apple will go back to their normal 6am-9am EDT downtime for this and future launches.
 
ive decided at this point all we are going to see is available online for order next thursday with a pickup in store or delivery date on the 30th maybe the 31st. If anything other than this happens (and they extend this any further) i think im going to keep my 3GS and snag an ipad.
 
I can't wait for the weekend. I will be able to have my kids stay up refreshing the Apple store while I sleep.
 
They're gonna wait until after 24th, because that's when people can't return some of their black iPhones.
 
They're gonna wait until after 24th, because that's when people can't return some of their black iPhones.

I never bought into this theory. Anyone intent on switching could just as easily return it before the 24th anyway. In fact, many have already done this. Whether it's before the 24th or several days after... it wouldn't matter.
 
I am curious how it will look with bumpers. I want to get bumper with my iPhone 4 white so I think that preorders/orders will start after announcing refund program.
 
I never bought into this theory. Anyone intent on switching could just as easily return it before the 24th anyway. In fact, many have already done this. Whether it's before the 24th or several days after... it wouldn't matter.

it would matter if they don't have another phone...
 
it would matter if they don't have another phone...

Still, the problem is they announced ahead of time that they would ship by the end of July. That means they already admitted you would only have to go 7 days MAX without a phone. I don't know anyone who can't last a week without a cellphone.

And if you look at the subset of people who know about the return policy AND got a black ip4 on launch day AND plan on switching AND cannot go even a few days without a phone... well, now you're talking about a fraction of a fraction a percent. Wouldn't even be a blip on Apple's radar. There are much more important factors in determining a product launch.
 
Still, the problem is they announced ahead of time that they would ship by the end of July. That means they already admitted you would only have to go 7 days MAX without a phone. I don't know anyone who can't last a week without a cellphone.

you don't know me, then. I don't have a land line, my cell phone is my only contact number.
 
Still, the problem is they announced ahead of time that they would ship by the end of July. That means they already admitted you would only have to go 7 days MAX without a phone. I don't know anyone who can't last a week without a cellphone.

And if you look at the subset of people who know about the return policy AND got a black ip4 on launch day AND plan on switching AND cannot go even a few days without a phone... well, now you're talking about a fraction of a fraction a percent. Wouldn't even be a blip on Apple's radar. There are much more important factors in determining a product launch.

Seriously? Some of these people couldn't last a day, much less a week. I dunno why they sell off their old phones before getting a new one. It really doesn't make any sense. Yeah... I know... to fund the purchase... if you hafta do that, though... do you really need an iPhone?
 
Well, if they are clearing out and discontinuing the priority lists as BGR says, then it looks like the Apple Stores are going back to a first come, first serve operation as opposed to the current waiting list mentality for iPad and iPhones.
 
I'm still debating between black or white when it launches in Canada.

I know this is silly, but with all the talk/rumors of recently obtained (black) iPhone 4s being "fixed" of antennagate, will the white ones be OK as well? Or will these units have been sitting around for awhile waiting for a piece of white glass and therefore not be "fixed" (again, assuming Apple has done anything to solve the issue at all).
 
I am curious how it will look with bumpers. I want to get bumper with my iPhone 4 white so I think that preorders/orders will start after announcing refund program.

I'm deciding between a black bumper on my white phone, or going all white with a white bumper.
 
I'm deciding between a black bumper on my white phone, or going all white with a white bumper.

I think there were some pics lying around on these forums of the bumpers on the iPhone 4 that had a custom white back, which gave me an idea as to what looked good.

Not much help for you in particular, as the black and white, for me, looked equally the best of the lot with the white iPhone back.

P.S - no idea where those particular pics are on this site lol!
 
I never bought into this theory. Anyone intent on switching could just as easily return it before the 24th anyway. In fact, many have already done this. Whether it's before the 24th or several days after... it wouldn't matter.


if someone returned within their 30 day period and then used another phone till white ip4, wouldn't they be paying the full price for the ip4 when it comes out? :confused:
 
I think there were some pics lying around on these forums of the bumpers on the iPhone 4 that had a custom white back, which gave me an idea as to what looked good.

Not much help for you in particular, as the black and white, for me, looked equally the best of the lot with the white iPhone back.

P.S - no idea where those particular pics are on this site lol!

we have to post some white ip4 w/ bumpers in this thread...swing the mood back to positive in here.
 
if someone returned within their 30 day period and then used another phone till white ip4, wouldn't they be paying the full price for the ip4 when it comes out? :confused:

No, your upgrade eligibility is reset when you return it within 30 days.
 
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