I absolutely loved ziphone. It was the best tool ever for jail breaking if you ask me.
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I absolutely loved ziphone. It was the best tool ever for jail breaking if you ask me.
I'm not sure Apple cares so much about the JB community. However, I am surprised they haven't gone after the app pirates. That is money coming right out of their pockets.
If Apple REALLY wanted to... they'd find a way. No one is truly anonymous. I could be wrong, but when the giant (Apple) really wants to do something legally, they do.
I realize they think they are anonymous - and I also know that they are spread out over a large network, different nations in some cases... but if Apple gets really pisses, they will throw the lawyers out. It only takes one Dev Team member getting their ass handed to them to kinda set things in motion.
Nonetheless, my point is that I'm not sure that Apple sees the Dev Team as all bad... they have undoubtedly furthered how Apple is developing their software.
Disagree all you want - Im not a lawyer
Some of them aren't anonymous at all, we know their full names and which country they reside in. The reason for some of them staying anonymous are for other reasons. They have nothing to be afraid of really. Apple have no grounds WHATSOEVER to harass them. They use no copyrighted code in their released jailbreaks, they just provide the tools that the user uses to modify Apple's code. This is an important point and why they don't distribute prejailbroken firmwares files
why is it still going? Geohot says there is no plans to even use Limera1n if he does release a jailbreak. it's a site he owns with a tear.. he has bought many of them!
The fact that he can manually jailbreak his iPhone does not mean he has a user-ready GUI app to jailbreak the phone that he's refusing to release. You're talking hundreds of hours of work to get such a tool ready, exactly what in the attitude of entitled people like you do you think would make that a rewarding effort for him? Geohot doesn't owe you anything.
I'll quote you right back at you:
Well, he could sell the jailbreak. A buck or two a pop is deffinatly a lot of money, and it's deffinatly worth the price. Also, I think I read on his website it took him 2 days to jailbreak the 3GS. He didn't make it seem like it was all that hard (for him).
I think he makes some good money off of donations though. They do deserve some donations for the work they put into hacking.
See, you don't understand the nature of litigation. Most corporate :: consumer lawsuits have NOTHING to do with "legal grounds to stand on" and everything to do with drawing someone who doesn't have the cash or ability to defend themselves into a lengthy and costly legal battle. MOST consumers, when faced with these options, usually go with just giving it up.
How do I know this? Back in the days when I was writing code for a living, it happened to my partner, not only once, but twice. He's in debt to this day because, even though he's was in the right, he thought he'd go toe to toe with them. He lasted 1 week and has a lifetime of debt now. He knew better the second time around.
Apple, being the richest computer company in America (that's correct, isn't it?) can do whatever the hell they want.
Not quite right...they have the highest market capitalization, meaning that the total value of all their stock is higher than that of any other company. They also have a high cash reserves, and fairly high revenues, but I don't know if "richest" is an accurate description.
Pulls up chair gets popcorn! this section just got interesting! oh wait I haven't ordered my P4 yet since I'm waiting for the white ones opps!
Geohot doesn't do what he does for money, he does it for fun and recognition. When people make demands and threats and generally act like jerks, it's no longer fun for him. Why should he go out of his way for people who have nothing but abuse for him?
Because I detest entitled little brats. Nobody owes you a jailbreak, folks.
I agree with you, but if he wants to be left alone, then he shouldn't post on a blog that he can jailbreak the new iPhone. Or at least he should expect people to ask and bother him. You can't have it both ways.
That's all well and good, but what does that have to do with hackers?
I was just stating the fact that if he sold the jailbreak, it would be worth his time and effort.
Why not? Why can't he just post about his exploit without people thinking that entitles them to a jailbreak? Personally, I was interested to see that he his exploit still worked for the iPhone 4, as he had predicted it would. That's what his post was about, and I don't think his making that post gives other people any rights over him.
Your right, it doesn't entitle anybody to anything, but he shouldn't expect people not to ask. I mean, he's put jailbreaks out for the the last 3 iPhones, it's not unreasonable for
people to think he is going to release another one. I'm not saying they are entitled to anything, he just shouldn't be surprised when people ask.
Because he published exploits before, both for the iPhone and other devices. The precedent has been set. People expect that if he has an jailbreak, he'll give it away.
While I don't get the feeling from his post that he is going to release it, he is very vague. If he doesn't want to release it, be straight about it. Say, "I will not be releasing this as I have done with previous exploits." I'm sure some people would still ask, but the majority would at least be clear about his intentions.
Plus saying, "Again, please don't ask for release dates. Every person that does makes me want to release a little bit less" just stinks of arrogance. Its like he's waving his phone with one hand while giving the middle finger with the other.