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Limited iMac Availability Suggests Possible Refresh
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Mini Strategy
Agree, but that mini did it's magic. I converted my processes to the mini to see what the Intel/OS 10.x buzz was about, and to see if I could.
Just bought a refurb 3.06 Imac from the apple store, so the strategy works wonderfully. I know I'll be left behind with the first hardware refresh, but core2duo 3.06/4gigs ram with the 512 graphics should hold me for quite a while.
And this 22inch monitor I bought about a year ago will come in handy for the windows apps.
I friggin' can't wait.
So where is the Mac Mini refresh? Apple is so ridiculous with ignoring this machine, it's pathetic.
Agree, but that mini did it's magic. I converted my processes to the mini to see what the Intel/OS 10.x buzz was about, and to see if I could.
Just bought a refurb 3.06 Imac from the apple store, so the strategy works wonderfully. I know I'll be left behind with the first hardware refresh, but core2duo 3.06/4gigs ram with the 512 graphics should hold me for quite a while.
And this 22inch monitor I bought about a year ago will come in handy for the windows apps.
I friggin' can't wait.
The entry level 20" iMac is listed at $999 in the refurb store right now. How much do you expect it to go down if new iMacs are announced? According to the terms of service, any price reduction within 14 days after the product ships will be refunded. Do you know if this applies to refurbs (it sounds like it does)?
I'll do you a step better. What exactly is it that you want to do that the 8800 GS cannot do? Please, do tell.
Nonsense, PinkyMac.
Windows 32-bit supports up to 64 GiB of RAM, and has since the Windows 2000 days. It is limited to 4 GiB of Virtual Address space per process (about 3 GiB of actual usable VA), but you can have about 20 of those 3 GiB Processes running simultaneously on the same box. You should check out the PAE boot flag, it turns on extended memory support (36-bit physical addressing).
Windows supported 8 GiB and bigger systems long before Mac OSX, and long before 64-bit Windows shipped.
Without PAE (and the Windows desktop systems don't support extended addressing - that's a server thing) Windows supports 4 GiB of RAM.
In practice, though, you get somewhere between 3.25 GiB and about 3.8 GiB. The hardware needs some of those 4 GiB to map device memory (for example, if you have a 512 MiB graphics card, you have 256 MiB less available than with a 256 MiB graphics card).
Your system administrators are incompetent then, you should replace them.
Our Exchange and SQL servers are up for months and months, as are most of the well-run Windows servers - at the last shutdown they had been up 237 days - and only had to be shut down then because the power utility cut the power to the data center to replace a transformer. The Domain Controller is on a UPS - it's been up for 308 days. (I did have to replace a power supply in it around Thanksgiving, but that's a minor thing that doesn't need a reboot. It's also had two disk drives fail - but nobody reboots because of failed disk drives anymore.)
If you try to say that Windows Server needs weekly reboots - only the fanbois will believe you. Any competent admin knows that Windows Server boxes just sit there and run month after month. Give them good hardware (and make sure to enable the bits that will SMS you messages when pre-failure situations occur) and they run themselves.
Yes, there are some killer laptops out there now. Ones that would cream most Apple desktops.
Look here for a discussion of the Lenovo 700 Mobile Workstation - quad core, dual disks, Quadro graphics with 1 GiB VRAM, Blu-ray burner, eSATA, DisplayPort, Dual-link DVI, VGA, 1394, 3g wireless, ... - what Apple could make if it still cared about bona fide professionals.
Instead, Apple only cares about being able to say "world's thinnest" on each new product announcement. Who cares if the product is useful - as long as it's thin and pretty....
That's actually a good idea. A commercial ONLY viewable by DVR in slo-mo.
All the commercials after it would be missed . . . . . .
Rocketman
click, click, click
Yay
I think its gonna be very soon!!! Tuesday is ready for refreshed iMacs. I wonder if they gonna look any different.
I would love new Mouse too. Apple is so behind with small things like that.
I think its gonna be very soon!!! Tuesday is ready for refreshed iMacs. I wonder if they gonna look any different.
I would love new Mouse too. Apple is so behind with small things like that.
Pae...
I tried PAE mode on a server and the damn thing crashed like a house of cards. We went back to pre-pae and everything worked out better.
Yes, I exaggerated a little. I've had Novell Netware servers that ran for nearly three years before needing a reboot. (One 3.12 ran for four years+ with no problems) I have a Windows 2003 server that has been up for well over a year, probably closer to 2 than anything. Our server here has been up over a year too. It's a lot better than NT...
Yes, I have a server with a memory leak. SBS 2003 Premium and it goes through memory in spurts. I spent time with Microsoft support and with CA as well and they couldn't figure out what was going on. By all symptoms it appears to be SQL Server causing it. Everyone says 'reinstall' and I can't justify it, yet. It's an active server that has Solomon and a active Exchange server component. It will go months and then start eating memory and then coast for a while. That is the server that wouldn't do PAE. Now we wait for the OK for upgrading to SBS 2008 and a seperate SQL server. Solomon will upgrade then and SQL too.
Sorry to be so long on Windows but I have had issues with Windows and memory. Life goes on...
I tried PAE mode on a server and the damn thing crashed like a house of cards. We went back to pre-pae and everything worked out better.
Yes, I exaggerated a little. I've had Novell Netware servers that ran for nearly three years before needing a reboot. (One 3.12 ran for four years+ with no problems) I have a Windows 2003 server that has been up for well over a year, probably closer to 2 than anything. Our server here has been up over a year too. It's a lot better than NT...
Yes, I have a server with a memory leak. SBS 2003 Premium and it goes through memory in spurts. I spent time with Microsoft support and with CA as well and they couldn't figure out what was going on. By all symptoms it appears to be SQL Server causing it. Everyone says 'reinstall' and I can't justify it, yet. It's an active server that has Solomon and a active Exchange server component. It will go months and then start eating memory and then coast for a while. That is the server that wouldn't do PAE. Now we wait for the OK for upgrading to SBS 2008 and a seperate SQL server. Solomon will upgrade then and SQL too.
Sorry to be so long on Windows but I have had issues with Windows and memory. Life goes on...
Do you think the price is going to be more than $500 increase and will the new iMac be noticeably better?
Just wondering whether to get a current model or wait for the suspected 'NEW' iMac!
Just wondering whether to get a current model or wait for the suspected '
NEW' iMac!
In the Mac Pro? Well, okay, CrossFire is already there, in Windows, and nVidia has allowed SLI in Tylersburg (the board on which Gainestown sits), so we can even see THAT in Windows...
But I just don't see it in OS X. One of the reasons being... they're using a chipset with Hybrid-SLI right now and it's not... hang on...
I have just figured out how they are going to get away with selling Snow Leopard for $129.
Snow Leopard will enable SLI in OS X in the current MacBook Pro, next iMac, and Gainestown Mac Pro. They will market SLI as a means of getting even MORE "locked-away" GPU power from your machine.
Not that it won't turn the GPU into a GPGPU in single-GPU models, of course; it will... It's just... it'll be that much better when you can use the 9400M+9600M combo, 9400M+9800M combo, and GTX 260+GTX 260 combo in the MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac Pro, respectively.
Wouldn't it be cool if I was right?
I don't believe this for an instant, but don't you think that it is a fairly logical conclusion to which someone could have come? :curious:
Apple mice take a little getting used to...
I use my Microsoft mouse instead. No worries but it would be better if their mouse was actually more usable... IMO. Although it *could* be worse... Anyone remember 'TrackPoint' or whatever it's called...
A real delete key would be nice on the MBP keyboard unless there is a way to do it somehow... Did they put one on the new ones? I haven't noticed...
Oh, I have gotten used to the new USB keyboard. I never thought I would. I cringed when keys died in my older keyboard... Peace!
I use my Microsoft mouse instead. No worries but it would be better if their mouse was actually more usable... IMO. Although it *could* be worse... Anyone remember 'TrackPoint' or whatever it's called...
A real delete key would be nice on the MBP keyboard unless there is a way to do it somehow... Did they put one on the new ones? I haven't noticed...
Oh, I have gotten used to the new USB keyboard. I never thought I would. I cringed when keys died in my older keyboard... Peace!
Do you think the price is going to be more than $500 increase and will the new iMac be noticeably better?
Just wondering whether to get a current model or wait for the suspected '
I'm waiting but can't wait too long...
It will be a hell of a day if the iMacs the Mini and Snow Leopard come out the same day... Well, and a updated Mac Pro too...
Yeah, I have to say, that's starting to get to me. Sure, thin is nice, but it seems to me Apple is putting too much emphasis on it at the expense of performance...
Oh, and I'll keep buying Apple for a while, yet. But some of their decisions are really making me wonder. Nice products, but perhaps too much a focus on aesthetics....
Im pretty sure there wont be a snow leopard release just yet , and anyway it's not that exciting because the interface is gonna be the same.. and its not like 64-Bit is super fast.. you probably wont even notice difference.. i've used Vista 32-bit & 64-bit..
, and anyway it's not that exciting because the interface is gonna be the same.. and its not like 64-Bit is super fast.. you probably wont even notice difference.. i've used Vista 32-bit & 64-bit..
Yes, and maybe there could be an Apple event to go along with it!
I can't wait to see what the new iMac will look like, unless they only upgrade the existing ones.
I can't wait to see what the new iMac will look like, unless they only upgrade the existing ones.
More than likely they will look the same, they just updated the look not too long ago and are just now getting the other Macs in line with the current iMac design.
Also hoping that the refreshed iMac will have an nVidia 9600 or better graphics processor. That and a Quad Core Intel CPU = Pure 
That and a Quad Core Intel CPU = Pure 
Also hoping that the refreshed iMac will have an nVidia 9600 or better graphics processor.
I don't really see what everyone can expect unless they drastically change it to a desktop cpu for quad core since mobile CORE i7 quads aren't due until Q4 2009 or even 2010. And yes the Penryn models are out but they come at a costly upgrade option that would put the iMac beyond it's current price range.
Quad mobile is out now! Do a little research. Quad mobile Penryn chips are shipping and selling.
Quad mobile Nehalem is coming later this year, but Apple isn't yet using the desktop Core i7 (Nehalem) chips that everyone else is already selling. (Probably because a quad Core i7 is faster than an octo Xeon Mac Pro at a lot of things...)
Apple doesn't need to "drastically change the Imac" to use quads. They do need to add a desktop Core i7 Mini-tower to the lineup.
People who buy all-in-ones are looking for a simple, limited system. Most of them wouldn't need, want or even understand a quad core.
If you *need* quad core, you are probably smart enough to understand how to connect a monitor to your mini-tower. You may even already have a monitor.
Now that we're in the post-Jobs era, perhaps Apple will give its customers a little choice.