But this hack is only modifying a line of code in the open source OS X kernel. How does it break MR rules?
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But this hack is only modifying a line of code in the open source OS X kernel. How does it break MR rules?
You're not reading correctly.
"Warez/Serials/Keys. Do not post software serial numbers or keys or refer people to specific websites, software, or techniques whose purpose is to break or bypass software licensing methods, distribute cracks, or obtain or use commercial software or media in violation of its license and/or for copyright violation. Do not ask for or give such help."
Let's see, what is "news"? It's information right? Well, your analogy is quite flawed. Reporting crimes helps keep the community safe, it's not promoting to do the wrong thing. Well the front page news "informs" us on MR. This news in question is informing the Hackintosh community not to worry, a hack has been found to help you do the wrong thing.
No. I installed a legally obtained and completely unpatched copy of OS X Snow Leopard on my Dell XPS M1530. And I live in Germany, European Union, where Apple's policy of forcing the customer to use OS X only on Apple hardware is as illegal as Microsoft's OEM policy was until the German Supreme Court ordered them to change their license policies. Apple will get the same treatment should they try and sue somebody for installing OS X on non-Apple hardware.
So, again: No. We're not talking about warez and piracy here. We're talking about Apple's business practices which are illegal in certain parts of the world.
It violates Apple's software license, and MR has posted a link to a site that aids the user in doing this or otherwise facilitates it.
At least they bought the hardware
Bottom line is that such links shouldn't be published on sites like MacRumors as in Mac. Again did they pay for OS X? A lot of people could be reading this and clicking that link and 5 minutes after that downloading iDeneb or any other hacked OS X version. If someone want hacintosh there are plenty ways and sites on that topic, so there is no need to enforce it on such sites. Care to have a think about that?
Or it's helping to inform those who have made it their crusade to eliminate the existence of hackintoshes, so that they can one again bandy the troops to march against the "evil" Hackintosh users.Let's see, what is "news"? It's information right? Well, your analogy is quite flawed. Reporting crimes helps keep the community safe, it's not promoting to do the wrong thing. Well the front page news "informs" us on MR. This news in question is informing the Hackintosh community not to worry, a hack has been found to help you do the wrong thing.
The argument goes both ways.
It's still in violation of MR's rules. We're not talking about the actual legality of Apple's software license, nor about laws in Germany.
We're talking about MR's specific rules.
To wit:
Warez/Serials/Keys. Do not post software serial numbers or keys or refer people to specific websites, software, or techniques whose purpose is to break or bypass software licensing methods, distribute cracks, or obtain or use commercial software or media in violation of its license and/or for copyright violation. Do not ask for or give such help.
Cracking application is usually the same. Maybe MacRumors should make a serias about cracking techniques?
First, dont be a hypocrite. VCRs are far more relevant to this discussion than you comparing a Hackintosh to a $40,000 Ferrari (your analogy disregards the division of software and hardware, but thats really besides the point).
According to you, if the means can be used for illegal reasons, then the ends must be illegal as well. There is nothing illegal about the patch itself. Just because the patch can be used to break the SLA doesnt mean that it breaks the SLA. I could theoretically apply the patch to a kernel running on Apple branded hardware. Would I get anything out of it? No. But it is certainly legal.
This is the same as the idea that even though a VCR can be used for copyright infringement doesnt mean that use of a VCR is illegal.
Once again:
It's still in violation of MR's rules.
We're talking about MR's specific rules.
To wit:
Warez/Serials/Keys. Do not post software serial numbers or keys or refer people to specific websites, software, or techniques whose purpose is to break or bypass software licensing methods, distribute cracks, or obtain or use commercial software or media in violation of its license and/or for copyright violation. Do not ask for or give such help.
Let's see, what is "news"? It's information right? Well, your analogy is quite flawed. Reporting crimes helps keep the community safe, it's not promoting to do the wrong thing. Well the front page news "informs" us on MR. This news in question is informing the Hackintosh community not to worry, a hack has been found to help you do the wrong thing.
Well that really depends on if your the good guy or the criminal eh? If I am the former, listening to the news can give me alot of new ideas....
You could also read it another way? From the Apple community "Horrific news just in, those B@stard in the hackintosh community have just found a way to run our glorious SL illegally , and after the break, how they did it!"
Are you just going to copy and paste that all night long? Makes for a really boring debate..
So what?
If it's contrary to MR's explicit rules then my personal motivations for bringing attention to it are irrelevant.
It is what it is.
Nothing to debate, really.
I guess I'll post it as many times as it takes someone to understand it. It's written in clear, basic English.
I may be wrong here (and someone please correct me if I am), but aren't the open source segments of OS X covered by the GPL? Thus, Apple can restrict its own modifications, but it can't actually prevent the GPL-covered portions from being modified by the end-user.
Now I guess the portion of OS X that includes the table for CPU identification may be different, but it'd be interesting to see just how different it is from any type of table in FreeBSD/etc that does CPU identification. If it's nothing more than Apple simply changing the CPUIDs to only be those CPUs it wishes to support, well, I'm not sure that would hold up in court ;D
Wow, some of you need to get a life and not patrol what gets posted on a site you don't even own.
If this piece of info seems to steam your beans so much just hit that "Negative" link and move on with your pathetic life and let the discussion be for the people it caters to.
If this piece of info seems to steam your beans so much just hit that "Negative" link and move on with your pathetic life and let the discussion be for the people it caters to.
That section only refers to warez, serials, or keys. You're bending the forum rules to suit your own purposes. Isn't that immoral?
It's like people feel entitled to read the forum rules anyway they want. No one is forcing you to use MR. If you don't want to, go find another forum.
No. Read it again.
It's under a certain heading, yes, but then we have this:
Do not post software serial numbers or keys
We're ok here. This hasn't been done.
*or* refer people to specific websites, software, or techniques whose purpose is to break or bypass software licensing methods, distribute cracks, or obtain or use commercial software or media in violation of its license and/or for copyright violation. Do not ask for or give such help.
Not ok here. Notice the *Or*s. Anything followed by *Or* is bad. If MR is guilty of violating only ONE thing after one of the *Or*s, MR is in violation of its own rules. The really important part is: "Or refer people to specific websites, (and/or) software . . . whose purpose is to break software licensing methods."
Running OS X on unauthorized hardware is a violation of Apple's OS X software license. The link posted in the MR article directs to to a website with information that shows you how to do just that.
Yeah had a think about it, and you know what, no where in this post does it tell you where to obtain an illegal copy of OS X, SO as much as you try to convince me that people who run hackintoshes have illegal copies of OS X, its not going to work.
I run non standard firmware for my MB and GPU - Custom hacked for better performance, on my PC gaming rig, so am i therefore running an illegal copy of Windows 7? please.....
You are part right / part wrong. First, there are no components built into the OS that would force Apple to play by the GPL rules (CUPS is under GPL but Apple owns the copyrights; there may be items that are dual licensed), and very few are under GPL. There are plenty under BSD license. You can take the BSD parts, modify them, and use them under Windows, or Linux, or whatever (if your Windows or Linux license allows it, nothing to do with Apple), but Apple's license doesn't allow you to combine the Apple-owned portions of MacOS X with changed BSD components.
They also have guidelines about Spam, so stop coping and pasting the same response everytime!