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Anyone else notice that facebook was not even mentioned today? I'm sure that was very intentional. Facebook unintegration in ios 8?
 
Setting aside discussion of the content for a moment, Apples "post Steve" Keynote presenters did a good job of presenting the material. I had a good feeling that after the first few events Tim Cook & crew would get their act together, and they did.

It was refreshing to see what they learned from Google come together to bring iOS 7 up to speed. With some feedback & luck perhaps they'll ditch the pastel colors. Or perhaps it was tailored to San Francisco's international metrosexual culture. Either way it looks like a decent start as Apple brings relevancy back into the picture.

Finally falling into line with the standard Android's set when it comes to the multitasking grid, swipe style notification navigation and the other various cues, iPhone will now be much more contemporary.

Good Job Apple !
 
To some people you are either a fanboy or a troll no matter what you say. Ignore them, and don't tell them.

I do agree with you... But the trolls are so good at baiting, it is very hard to resist.. :p :p :p


Perhaps you know of a rule that says that? Maybe you own the forum? Either way, why be so insecure? That's pretty childish. I think if someone does not like the rules of the forum they own they should absolutely go start their own forum with their own rules.

If you are referring to me then point out such incidents.

Sigh... It's not about rules... It's about common sense... But, then some people have too much free time... Also And I am not forcing anything on you... You can carry on with your trolling... Have a happy trolling day... :D Enjoy your stay on a thread about something you don't like... :D :D
 
I'm a Windows user, always have been. I make my living supporting MS platforms and Cisco devices. I've been researching buying an iMac as of late. The 680MX equipped iMac has been the "apple" of my eye, but thought I'd wait till WWDC to see if anything new was outed. I was disappointed to see no new iMac announcement. I'm torn between waiting a for an announcement or going ahead and buying one now and selling it when the new one comes out. Any thoughts?
The iMac has just been redesigned, so the next one will look exactly the same and resale value should be good. Battery life is not an issue, so there is no point in waiting for Haswell. The next iMac will likely have 802.11ac, that might be a reason to wait. I predict you will feel absolutely no difference between using an iMac you buy today or later this fall. Since it's your first Mac, you should not wait a minute. Go buy one now! You won't regret it. Said some guy on the internet.

Though Buyer's Guide disagrees with me. :cool:
 
Mr. Cook was deathly quiet about Apple giving the gvnmt access to users data in the cloud. Thought for sure he'd address this hot subject.
We need an iCloud2 with 4096 bit encryption.
 
And that is a textbook example of a straw man argument. Nowhere did I say "the iPhone didn't change anything". Clearly something you made up. In addition, now you start bringing up extraneous information, like a smartphone having one button and how well it work. Immaterial.

Let's get back to you original assertion that Android copied the touchscreen from Apple. This is abundantly wrong, as touchscreen smartphones were already in existence.

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I bet there is. Especially since BMW was one of the first automakers who adopted iPhone integration. I also believe Apple could have made a new slide with the BMW logo on it if BMW decided to adopt iPhone in car yesterday.

In that case link to me a multi touch screen phone based on capitative touch before the iPhone which the first Android phone then went on to use, please? Should be easy if they were already around. If you're counting resistive touch screens as "touchscreen smartphones were already in existence" its really stretching it isn't it. There were no capitative multi touch screens with gorilla glass before the iPhone - after the iPhone ALL smartphones were capitative multitouch with gorilla glass...
 
Apple is so happy about 90% iOS plus adoption on all their mobile hardware yet the desktop adoption is only 30 some percent. Lets right the wrong and release 10.9 for all hardware that's excluded then they can say the same about the desktops. And if the hardware is weak in an area just disable some features like they do on the iOS platform.
 
In that case link to me a multi touch screen phone based on capitative touch before the iPhone which the first Android phone then went on to use, please? Should be easy if they were already around. If you're counting resistive touch screens as "touchscreen smartphones were already in existence" its really stretching it isn't it. There were no capitative multi touch screens with gorilla glass before the iPhone - after the iPhone ALL smartphones were capitative multitouch with gorilla glass...

Wow, you keep adding more and more assertions as we go. Now you're bringing up Gorilla Glass? Really? Here's the original assertion, you can read it a few times because you seem challenged:

I think Android was the first to do that when they switched their systems to touch after the iPhone.

I politely and accurately pointed out this was untrue, which others have agreed. Now, you can answer me back when you learn how to argue (instead of producing your own straw man arguments), until then, you're just trolling.
 
Yep, I don't think Apple understand what "pro users" want. They seem to want to get these people to want what they are told to want!

What's sad is all the people on social networking sites raving about how they want the new Mac Pro and "how sexy it is." It's a laughable computer, Apple's officially exited the computer business.

Take away the gimmick and it's a way for Apple to sell Thunderbolt devices and accessories so you can actually use your overpriced cylinder sculpture. I'll take my custom build desktop that has room for upgrading 2 video cards, 5 hard drives, 32GB of RAM, room for up to 4 CD/DVD/media drives, and multiple expansion cards.
 
Pros don't use rack mount

Polite reply: Sorry, you're incorrect:
- Professional musicians in studios
- Professional musicians in concert gear
- server applications, notably minicolo
- Soundproof, dustproof enclosures as used in many laboratories
- etc., etc.

I really wish that members of this forum would not be so closed-minded as to what a "professional" is, and how they use their gear.
 
I really wish that members of this forum would not be so closed-minded as to what a "professional" is, and how they use their gear.

Happens all the time here.

Here's a tip: when you see someone on MR start a sentence with "Pros don't use _______", just stop reading.



The iCylinder is so far off the mark it's laughable. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be multiple heated threads about it.
 
The iCylinder is so far off the mark it's laughable. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be multiple heated threads about it.

I don't even have a (new) Mac yet, my newest Mac is an old G4 Quicksilver. Anywho, could you explain to me (and I'm being sincere here, not cynical or condescending) why you think the new Mac Pro missed the mark?

For me, as a PC guy looking in, I think they introduced some incredible technology. The PCIe flash with TB2 & USB 3.0 connectivity was awesome. The design, from a volume vs computing power standpoint, is genius. Granted, internal upgradeability isn't there for the most part, but it's always been my thought that Mac users (and graphics designers/editors in particular) always circulated around external attached storage anyway.

So where did it come up short for you?
 
I don't even have a (new) Mac yet, my newest Mac is an old G4 Quicksilver. Anywho, could you explain to me (and I'm being sincere here, not cynical or condescending) why you think the new Mac Pro missed the mark?

For me, as a PC guy looking in, I think they introduced some incredible technology. The PCIe flash with TB2 & USB 3.0 connectivity was awesome. The design, from a volume vs computing power standpoint, is genius. Granted, internal upgradeability isn't there for the most part, but it's always been my thought that Mac users (and graphics designers/editors in particular) always circulated around external attached storage anyway.

So where did it come up short for you?

Sure, first of all it's got all proprietary innards. Those "dual graphics" cards are most certainly proprietary. Second, no internal expandability whatsoever. No ability to install add-in PCI-E cards (fibre, AJA, Red, etc..), no FW800 (that's big for pro audio, because almost every professional audio interface has problems when there is something between it and the computer.....like a stupid TB to FW adapter).
There is absolutely no way to upgrade this machine at all. Let's also not forget about the singular "thermal triangle" or whatever it is. You've got one piece of aluminum and two fans (I assume the intake fan is on the bottom?) cooling two hot video cards and an (up to 12-core) Xeon. They've created a single point of failure and called it innovation.

I can't speak for all the "professional" users out there, but I can pretty much guarantee that they are not in the mood to daisy chain RAID arrays, external GPUs /PCI cards/ whatever boxes externally to this thing just because Apple felt like creating a Pro machine that has absolutely no hope of internal expandability or upgradability.
 
Sure, first of all it's got all proprietary innards.....

I can't say I've never complained about upgradability on Macs before. I've always thought the proprietary design was crazy, but they have taken this one to an extreme. Whenever I used to complain about the difficulty of upgrading an iMac, I'd get hastily dismissed by Apple users as not knowing what was good for me. Perhaps that's now come full circle as Mac users are starting to suffer from the designs they defended.

So all of these technologies in an expandable box like the current Mac Pro would've been good for you then?
 
I can't say I've never complained about upgradability on Macs before. I've always thought the proprietary design was crazy, but they have taken this one to an extreme. Whenever I used to complain about the difficulty of upgrading an iMac, I'd get hastily dismissed by Apple users as not knowing what was good for me. Perhaps that's now come full circle as Mac users are starting to suffer from the designs they defended.

So all of these technologies in an expandable box like the current Mac Pro would've been good for you then?

I would have loved a new Mac Pro with the new Xeons (DUAL), new chipset and memory, new nvidia GPUs (or the ability to supplant my own), same form factor, USB 3.0 on the I/O. That would have been a slice of heaven.

In fact, I informed Apple of this desire many, many times through their feedback loop (which they obviously ignored).
 
In fact, I informed Apple of this desire many, many times through their feedback loop (which they obviously ignored).

The one feedback loop they can't ignore is the cash register. Failure to sell this thing as designed will take them back to the drawing board. Then again, they could be so arrogant as to think that no one's buying it because there's no longer demand for a Mac Pro & kill the line off all together.

Perhaps the design of the new Mac Pro would've been more fitting for a revised Mac Mini?
 
The one feedback loop they can't ignore is the cash register. Failure to sell this thing as designed will take them back to the drawing board. Then again, they could be so arrogant as to think that no one's buying it because there's no longer demand for a Mac Pro & kill the line off all together.

Perhaps the design of the new Mac Pro would've been more fitting for a revised Mac Mini?
Well I can see it being scale down to the xMac has been discussed on MacRumors over the years.
 
Wow, you keep adding more and more assertions as we go. Now you're bringing up Gorilla Glass? Really? Here's the original assertion, you can read it a few times because you seem challenged:



I politely and accurately pointed out this was untrue, which others have agreed. Now, you can answer me back when you learn how to argue (instead of producing your own straw man arguments), until then, you're just trolling.

Yep, its me trolling :D
 
Polite reply: Sorry, you're incorrect:
- Professional musicians in studios
- Professional musicians in concert gear
- server applications, notably minicolo
- Soundproof, dustproof enclosures as used in many laboratories
- etc., etc.

I really wish that members of this forum would not be so closed-minded as to what a "professional" is, and how they use their gear.

Sorry, I was actually being facetious.
 
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