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To be fair Apple don't copy Android, they copy what the jailbreak community does. The jailbreak community came up with most of this stuff before Android ever did.

Forgive them... The trolls don't know that... :)
 
How many of them own mac's? If they own mac's I do not see a problem, if they own nothing apple then they are troll's. Fair enough?

I agree with insecurity, but it's also insecure to accept no negative opinions.

Nope not fair enough...

I own a macbook pro, an iPhone and an apple tv... Also an ultra book... I have never entered the MBA section to ever troll about how my Ultra is much better... Nor do I even bother commenting on the articles... I do read all new articles though...

If you have a mac and no iphone stick to mac threads or atleast don't spew your useless android love on the iphone threads...
 
Are the ULV USB bug free? Maybe that's why. And Iris Pro.

I've decided I'll wait. I've set my heart on a rMBP and I don't want to settle for less. Someone said we could see updated rMBPs next month? Will there be a July education event?
 
I'm a Windows user, always have been. I make my living supporting MS platforms and Cisco devices.
I've been researching buying an iMac as of late. The 680MX equipped iMac has been the "apple" of my eye, but thought I'd wait till WWDC to see if anything new was outed. I was disappointed to see no new iMac announcement. I'm torn between waiting a for an announcement or giong ahead and buying one now and selling it when the new one comes out. Any thoughts?

IOS 7 failed yet again to impress me enough to consider leaving Android. I just can't give up the open-architecture flexibility Android provides. I try to mold my computing world around my needs instead of brand loyalty, hence the move to an iMac. Apple just hasn't made the case, from my perspective anyway, to move from Android.
 
Personally, I don't know what else they could have innovated on. Most of the innovations in Android have been purely gimmicky stuff from the OEMs. Samsung's hover stuff is neat at first, but in the real world completely useless (unless I have fingers covered in wing sauce or something).

Google Now is true innovation. The fact that all they did with Siri was add new voices and Bing integration is very telling. They really need to move Siri past simple question/answer. The problem is innovation is happening in software services not UI design and this is an area where Apple is weak. We basically heard nothing about iCloud services in iOS 7 other than password sync. I'm guessing the developers at WWDC are pretty disappointed in the lack of iCloud info at the presentation. Perhaps it is coming later this week however.
 
Apart from they weren't called "smartphones" there was nothing with one button, they was no multi touch display - and the phones that had touch screen were truly truly horrendous and unusable. But yeah - apart from that the original iPhone didn't change anything :rolleyes:

And that is a textbook example of a straw man argument. Nowhere did I say "the iPhone didn't change anything". Clearly something you made up. In addition, now you start bringing up extraneous information, like a smartphone having one button and how well it work. Immaterial.

Let's get back to you original assertion that Android copied the touchscreen from Apple. This is abundantly wrong, as touchscreen smartphones were already in existence.

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Yeah, my stream cut out at the end but I caught the graphic on one of the other Mac sites. What a slight, but possibly BMW added the feature after the graphic was made and Apple didn't have time to revise. I mean it would be to Apple's advantage to include them so I have to believe they would if logistics permitted. There has to be a reasonable backstory.

I bet there is. Especially since BMW was one of the first automakers who adopted iPhone integration. I also believe Apple could have made a new slide with the BMW logo on it if BMW decided to adopt iPhone in car yesterday.
 
Google Now is true innovation. The fact that all they did with Siri was add new voices and Bing integration is very telling. They really need to move Siri past simple question/answer. The problem is innovation is happening in software services not UI design and this is an area where Apple is weak. We basically heard nothing about iCloud services in iOS 7 other than password sync. I'm guessing the developers at WWDC are pretty disappointed in the lack of iCloud info at the presentation. Perhaps it is coming later this week however.
The longer that iCloud lingers as a rather pointless, or at best a limited service, the more I am beginning to wonder if Apple will ever fully understand cloud services. Siri, is also floundering as compared to Google Now. For a company as sharp as Apple these two areas are particularly weak.
 
Is that why they went from a $5 gain to a $4 loss on the exchange when normally they close on highs after these?

This has actually been a sad WWDC. The iOS change was needed though.

Practically NO company normally closes at highs after news. Apple doesn't. Apple even fell after the iPhone announcement. Even Google falls. They closed down after Google I/O. They were at $915 during the announcement and are down in the mid $800s now.

Investors typically hype, and sell on the news.

I love how you have no information and just spread what you 'think' happens. Just because that's what you WANT to happen.

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Google Now is true innovation.

How is 'Google Now' innocation? They just copied Apple. :rolleyes:
 
Let's get back to you original assertion that Android copied the touchscreen from Apple. This is abundantly wrong, as touchscreen smartphones were already in existence.

Tis is true. I was using a Windows Mobile 5 phone before either iPhone or Android existed. Now if he would've said "capacitive multi-touch", that would've been a completely different argument.
 
Wow, I love this. This keynote was absolutely amazing and the first one in years to get me really excited about Apple again. The presenters were also super excited, you could really feel that something built up inside Apple, that was released.

Don't like some of the new icons though. Game Center looks just strange (why the gloss again?), and the iTunes and AppStore icons have weird proportions (the circle is just too big). But I really like the minimalism. You can tell that this is what Windows Phone and Android kind of wanted to have, but couldn't, due to lack of design abilities. But still, some things just look like they needed more time. I don't know what it is, but I'm pretty sure things get revised in the next few iterations of iOS.

One thing bothers me though: What is the matter with that "3d" effect? I'm pretty sure it won't look nearly as real as in the videos, but how does it even work? It wasn't mentioned. I mean, they basically said it is tracking the movement of the phone. But in the video it appeared as if the phone is tracking the movement of the phone relative to the eyes. Eye tracking wasn't even mentioned. So, I don't really get this feature. It was kind of unexpected, but also somehow weird.
 
Agreed. All the OS X improvements were extremely welcome, and iOS 7 looks really nice. At this point it's all about refinement and iOS 7 is as refined as you can get. The Mac Pro also looks incredible.



Blablablabla end of this year...blablablalabla next year....blablablabla macbookair no retina display...blablablablabla no new iphone....blablablabla no new ipad blablablabla thanks for coming bye bye......
 
Hey Jon Ive aren't you glad android is open source so you're free to copy as you wish without fear of infringement :rolleyes:

You are speaking like that these ideas were initiated on Android, actually almost none of them were. A lot of them were from desktop OSes and some of them were from the app/tweak community.

Take that big favor of yours, "bump sharing", as an example, go find out how long the "Bump" app has existed in Apple's App Store. Since early 2009!
 
The longer that iCloud lingers as a rather pointless, or at best a limited service, the more I am beginning to wonder if Apple will ever fully understand cloud services. Siri, is also floundering as compared to Google Now. For a company as sharp as Apple these two areas are particularly weak.

^ This. Although I welcome very much what I've heard of the changes (followed the live blog on Engadget and heard some of it live on TWiT), this seems more like Apple is repositioning the iPhone for the next phase of it's evolution. Meanwhile, I've been playing with Google Now ever since it came out for the iPhone. And it's a whole new paradigm for what a smart phone should do or be. And now that Google search, Maps, and GMail have been updated and integrated even more with Google Now, I couldn't use a device that didn't have access to these services. iOS 7 will make my iPhone more user friendly and visually appealing, but Google apps are the indispensible services on my phone.
 
Blablablabla end of this year...blablablalabla next year....blablablabla macbookair no retina display...blablablablabla no new iphone....blablablabla no new ipad blablablabla thanks for coming bye bye......

That was all pretty much known before the keynote...
 
Nope not fair enough...

I own a macbook pro, an iPhone and an apple tv... Also an ultra book... I have never entered the MBA section to ever troll about how my Ultra is much better... Nor do I even bother commenting on the articles... I do read all new articles though...

If you have a mac and no iphone stick to mac threads or atleast don't spew your useless android love on the iphone threads...

Perhaps you know of a rule that says that? Maybe you own the forum? Either way, why be so insecure? That's pretty childish. I think if someone does not like the rules of the forum they own they should absolutely go start their own forum with their own rules.

If you are referring to me then point out such incidents.
 
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That's one of the better Apple keynotes, I think. I haven't seen one this good for quite some time now.
 
That's one of the better Apple keynotes, I think. I haven't seen one this good for quite some time now.

Agreed; certainly Cook's best one. The bit with Cue showing off iRadio got pretty slow, but I thought the general pacing was good, and the amount/quality of updates was (to me) excellent.
 
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