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They wouldn't need to sacrifice privacy. Set up a lab test program similar to their glorious fitness data project. Similar approach, no privacy breached. But yes, it'd cost money ...
thats similar to my idea, but with a much smaller pool in that is easier to you just buy the data from another AI
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So this is all you reading into things and not actual proof. Okay.
lol sorry and no. I do like how you try to twist thing w each reply.
 
I don't care about software updates anymore. All that matters to me is the Macintosh hardware lineup, which is and has been for years, woefully neglected.

Perhaps. Personally, not seeing much in the way of chip innovation which is likely driving down the updates to hardware. It's starting to feel like the days of the G3/G4/G5 with chip updates taking forever. I can see why Apple would be interested in developing their own custom chip.
Yes, Steve definitely was the man :)
But Tim should be more relaxed then. He might be a bit more relaxed these days, and somewhat more then the others. But still he is stiff like a *%?#* And just as non-inspiring as he’d been all the time.
Working on Apple these days can’t be fun if they become like those puppets.
Some people just don't have stage presence/charisma. Of all of the presenters, I've had a tendency to like Craig since he seems to be more comfortable presenting. But today he seemed to stumble over his script a bit. And then apologized for failing to save something. Cardinal rule, don't apologize during a presentation and just keep on going. As I was reminded in high school band, if you make a mistake, play it as if everyone else is wrong. :)
 
I don't care about software updates anymore. All that matters to me is the Macintosh hardware lineup, which is and has been for years, woefully neglected.

Agreed, the OS is pretty good as is. I don't need more fluffery - I need a faster MBP with a keyboard that is reliable.

So, it seems that Mac OS has stolen the show today! Now repeat after me: Apple doesn't care about Mac, Apple doesn't care about Mac, Apple doesn't ca...

How has MacOS stolen the show??

In addition, do you see any new Macs?
 
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I don't care about software updates anymore. All that matters to me is the Macintosh hardware lineup, which is and has been for years, woefully neglected.
So for you, as long as Apple makes you a shiny box, it’s fine. Who cares about people who actually created the applications and programs you are using, right?

So why did you even care about an event called DEVELOPER CONFERENCE?
 
Of course not, I develop for more than just apple platforms. Again not the point here.

Your point is irrelevant. I'm using you as an example to make my point:

You brag about the iMac Pro sitting on your desk, but what you fail to realize is that you are becoming an exception, rarer by the day... Your iMac Pro is nothing more than your status symbol. There are much cheaper workstations available for development on other platforms. You happen to be in a situation where revenue from other platforms covers the high costs of supporting Apple platforms - and - your employer is willing to continue incurring those costs. As the ROI of supporting Apple Platforms continues to plummet, Apple's future sinks with it.

I'm a cross-platform developer that has witnessed the "resurgence" of Apple that began in 2008 when iOS was a hit. But their arrogance, which reemerged beginning soon after their epic success, has irreparably damaged the ROI for ISVs developing for their platforms.

They trot out all this seemingly wonderful new tech, but there is no viable way for ISVs to make money from it. In fact the opposite is true - Apple's "innovation" actually hurts ISVs!!

For example: Today we learned that iOS and macOS will NOT merge. Great for Apple if they want to sell macs! BUT! bad for ISVs that will loose revenue when their iOS app will be free on Macs. Sure, Apple can give away software because their revenue stream is hardware. Even worse: How many vendors create good versions of applications for BOTH iOS and Mac - these are developers who are most committed to Apple platforms and usually can charge a premium for a Mac version.... But now, how much Mac revenue will they loose when the iOS version will be "good enough" when running for free on the Mac?

Also, why do you think Apple ported all the popular iOS apps to the iPad and Mac? ISVs failed to create reasonable versions of apps covering that set of functionality - again why? Answer: no viable revenue stream.. So Apple has to write those apps all by themselves.

Apple has no genuine concern for how ISVs make money. They really don't have a clue. Their patronizing smug attitude is becoming hard to watch.

The awkwardness of the keynote was obvious, they know something is wrong, but they can't accept they are the problem.
 
Agreed, the OS is pretty good as is. I don't need more fluffery - I need a faster MBP with a keyboard that is reliable.



How has MacOS stolen the show??

In addition, do you see any new Macs?

Because:

It was the most awesome update, since maybe the Yosemite, and it is obvious they have really invested a good amount of time and energy into the Mojave. Since Yosemite, there wasn't a Mac that has had that "WOW" factor. Now, of course, some are gonna say that this isn't enough. For some, it is never enough. But, you cannot please everyone, that is impossible.

Second, this was WWDC. What do you think, why there weren't any new hardware? I see that you are a member of this forum since 2006, it is weird that someone like you gets disappointed when they don't see new hardware at WWDC.
 
Interesting. Apple announces no new hardware, and the stock goes up two days in a row.

It's almost as if customers (who own AAPL stock) don't want new shiny fan-boy toys, but just the existing Apple products they already have to work more reliably.
 
I wonder
Are people really getting excited about Favicons?

That's today's Apple for you. Catering to the consumer masses and throwing small bones out to the pros.
[doublepost=1528215889][/doublepost]Macrumors has been predicting new hardware for WWDC for a while now so blame them LOL. But seriously, last WWDC they announced new MBPs so it's reasonable that a refresh could be announced this WWDC. Most MBP users are itching for a hex core MBP with a WORKING keyboard. I don't *expect* anything from Apple anymore, but of course I was naturally disappointed.

Because:

It was the most awesome update, since maybe the Yosemite, and it is obvious they have really invested a good amount of time and energy into the Mojave. Since Yosemite, there wasn't a Mac that has had that "WOW" factor. Now, of course, some are gonna say that this isn't enough. For some, it is never enough. But, you cannot please everyone, that is impossible.

Second, this was WWDC. What do you think, why there weren't any new hardware? I see that you are a member of this forum since 2006, it is weird that someone like you gets disappointed when they don't see new hardware at WWDC.
 
I know you mean well... but I’m honestly trying to care about this. I really am. It’s not your fault. I’m part of the “Get off my lawn” demo I guess.

It's okay. It's definitely not for everybody. The use cases in its current state are definitely limited to Pro users trying to simplify certain repetitive multi-step web tasks. But I don't generally use my phone for those, so I don't end up using a lot of those workflows. The ones I used to use regularly aren't as necessary as Apple adds new features to iOS. I haven't installed the dev preview yet, but I'll definitely dig into it and see if it adds any significant feature improvements for the non-Pro user.
 
I wonder


That's today's Apple for you. Catering to the consumer masses and throwing small bones out to the pros.
[doublepost=1528215889][/doublepost]Macrumors has been predicting new hardware for WWDC for a while now so blame them LOL. But seriously, last WWDC they announced new MBPs so it's reasonable that a refresh could be announced this WWDC. Most MBP users are itching for a hex core MBP with a WORKING keyboard. I don't *expect* anything from Apple anymore, but of course I was naturally disappointed.

I understand you, because I am interested in MacBook Pro, now even more than before, when I realize that Mojave is probably the last update my old, faithful 2012 MBP is gonna see. 2017 and 2016 models didn't have a single thing to get me into buying them. I hope that Apple is soon gonna release the MBP we are gonna love, like we did 2015 one. With good specs, and keyboard, too. However, ports are dead, and do not dream of getting them back. It is all about USB-C now.

However, I didn't expect it to be announced now. I do not know if we are going to see any new Macs this year at all.
 
You should read the article.

Here is the story from the link in the story, stating what you did still:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/03/technology/facebook-device-partners-users-friends-data.html

Apple along with others was given deep access to Facebook users friends data without their consent.

It just says that Apple and other manufacturers had a data-sharing partnership. It does not say how much access this specific partnership allowed for. The text only mentions that "Some device makers could retrieve personal information even from users’ friends who believed they had barred any sharing, The New York Times found." But it does not say that all of them had this access. And even if they had been given access to all this information, it does not automatically mean, that they used it for data mining (which is what you said in your earlier post).

You can read Tims response here:
https://9to5mac.com/2018/06/04/tim-cook-refutes-data-sharing-with-facebook/

Obviously everyone is free to decide whether they want to believe him or not.
But so far they have not shown any interest in collecting such data.
 
I hate to say it, but after building a couple hackintoshes I have to say it's not worth it. It's just not the same experience. Although the hacking was a fun challenge, I found myself tinkering with it more than working.

Updating to a newer OS is a huge hassle, and there are always a few things that "just [don't] work". Hackintoshing is good for tech minded people with a fair bit of time on their hands. It was an intriguing project, but I'd rather just buy a genuine Apple and save the time for other things.

That’s exactly why I recommended choosing an OS and sticking with it. If you don’t mind staying on a good, stable version it is viable. People who like
I'd say i regret not buying it, but my 2012 also has 4 cores... been waiting so patiently for more than a year now.

I was coming from a much older notebook so as soon as I watched the keynote in 2016 I was already sold. I had been waiting since 2014 for Skylake. At least it still has HEVC acceleration. That would’ve been a bummer. I think anyone with a retina core i7 MBP shouldn’t really upgrade until 32GB is offered. The main difference on the 2016-2017 machines is the much faster NvME PCI-E 3.0 x4 SSDs. These drives are ridiculously good. Also now USC 3.1 gen 2 (10Gb/s) external SSDs are really cheap. 512GB for around $140. It’s Thunderbolt 1 but for much less.

eGPU support on these machines is also a big deal. The Radeon 450/455/460/555/560 are really the weak link in all of these machines. For the 13” models the difference is really night and day. It sort of makes buying a 15” just for the dGPU unnecessary. Even a single Radeon RX 4GB or 8GB will provide a huge boost. I’m waiting for the right deal before I buy an enclosure and card package. They seem to be much cheaper than buying them separately and OEMs actually have access to certain cards that sell for huge premiums separately.
 
This was the best WWDC in a LONG time. It started off disappointing some of you hardcore computing folk but once the show was over the reactions changed like day to night...or dark mode ;)
 
How has MacOS stolen the show??

In addition, do you see any new Macs?

We finally have Dark Mode ... something hinted at way back with Panther. J/k

I see last support for 32-but apps which has been drawn out for far too long. I also see less support for machines such as 2011 MBA.


It’s been about a week since WWDC concludes.

Has anyone else seen Craig Federighi get FAR too much stage time than anyone else?! From the somewhat cute at first glance opening of WWDC ‘18 to the pompous ego inflating wall picture in FaceTime group demo isn’t this lack of hubris the same reason why Forstall got the boot in the first place?!
 
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