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exactly. Mouse functionality should not be gate-kept by an internet connection. This mean LogiTech can brick my hardware whenever they want? Noe of this makes sense
its not cloud based. mac os checks the certificate of signed software locally. and since it fails this check, it assumes its malicious and prevents you from running it.
 
wait, so if logitech go under, then people's keyboards and mice stop working? wild.
Not quite. If they go under and don’t renew their certificate, some functions will cease. Whether that’s a problem for you depends on which device, and how you use it. I have a Logitech MX Anywhere 3S, and I uninstalled the Logitech software because it’s useless. It has a few useful customisation option, but it’s most useless AI BS. Now that I’ve uninstalled Logi Options+, my mouse has remembered how I’ve set it up, and I don’t have their awful software in my Mac.

If they stop signing their certs, it won’t affect me much.
 
Not quite. If they go under and don’t renew their certificate, some functions will cease. Whether that’s a problem for you depends on which device, and how you use it. I have a Logitech MX Anywhere 3S, and I uninstalled the Logitech software because it’s useless. It has a few useful customisation option, but it’s most useless AI BS. Now that I’ve uninstalled Logi Options+, my mouse has remembered how I’ve set it up, and I don’t have their awful software in my Mac.

If they stop signing their certs, it won’t affect me much.
Curious, so once you have your mouse setup, and you completely uninstall Logitech Options +, your mouse settings including the side buttons, acceleration, scroll direction, force feel, etc, will all be the same? The mouse interface with these settings are not even on a Mac.
 
This is exactly it. I've stopped allowing people to put this in their personal calendars, its shared team/department calendar only.
Much better. But then the company has a sparkly-new re-org.

Teams and dept's morph and nobody wants to own any of that onerous legacy stuff. It's not in the budget!
 
Curious, so once you have your mouse setup, and you completely uninstall Logitech Options +, your mouse settings including the side buttons, acceleration, scroll direction, force feel, etc, will all be the same? The mouse interface with these settings are not even on a Mac.
I can’t say about the side buttons because they are completely useless. Logi Options+ doesn’t let you set them as button 3 & 4, and the available options aren’t useful to me, so I forget they’re there.

I didn’t change scroll direction from how I had it set up in my Mac settings, but force feel and acceleration settings haven’t changed at all after deleting Logi Options+
 
Oh man this was frustrating. Explains why absolutely nothing would get it working again. Gave me an excuse to try BetterMouse instead. My only complaint with BetterMouse is it's real hard to tune the scrolling. I've got something that feels pretty familiar, but it's not perfect. On the plus side, BetterMouse doesn't mess with my trackpad gestures like Options+ does, so that's probably worth it alone.
 
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Logitech users on macOS found themselves locked out of their mouse customizations yesterday after the company let a security certificate expire, breaking both its Logi Options+ and G HUB configuration apps.

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Logitech devices like its MX Master series mice and MX Keys keyboards stopped working properly as a result of the oversight, with users unable to access their custom scrolling setup, button mappings, and gestures. It wasn't long before the Logitech subreddit was awash with frustrated reports as people discovered their configured peripherals had suddenly reverted to default settings.

The Developer ID certificate is the digital signature macOS uses to verify legitimate software. When Logitech allowed its certificate to lapse, the company's apps lost verified authenticity. As such, macOS refused to run them, in some cases leading to an endless boot loop.

Logitech has since released a patch for macOS 26 Tahoe, macOS 15 Sequoia, macOS 14 Sonoma, and macOS 13 Ventura that resolves the issue. However, users need to download and install it themselves, since the certificate expiry also prevented the apps' built-in updaters from working. Older macOS versions will get a fix "at a later time," said Logitech in a support page acknowledging the issue.

On a positive note, it seems user settings survived the blunder, with Logitech promising that profiles and customizations remain intact after manual patching is completed.

"We dropped the ball here. This is an inexcusable mistake," Logitech spokesperson ATXsantucci admitted on Reddit. "We're extremely sorry for the inconvenience caused."

(Thanks, Brad!)

Article Link: Logitech Blames 'Inexcusable Mistake' After Certificate Expiry Breaks macOS Apps
Ah, I got this email. Thankfully I don't use Logitech software with my MX-3 Master. I find it's more trouble than what it's worth. But then I'm happy not to customise my mouse.
 
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Bad that it has happened. At least it is good to see the fix rolling out quickly. Hopefully such things don't happen in the future.
 
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Not quite. If they go under and don’t renew their certificate, some functions will cease. Whether that’s a problem for you depends on which device, and how you use it. I have a Logitech MX Anywhere 3S, and I uninstalled the Logitech software because it’s useless. It has a few useful customisation option, but it’s most useless AI BS. Now that I’ve uninstalled Logi Options+, my mouse has remembered how I’ve set it up, and I don’t have their awful software in my Mac.

If they stop signing their certs, it won’t affect me much.
The back and forwards browsing buttons in safari stopped working. Thats not AI BS, it's a core function as far as Im concerned.
 
its not cloud based. mac os checks the certificate of signed software locally. and since it fails this check, it assumes its malicious and prevents you from running it.
It doesn’t matter if it is not cloud or it is. Reality here that software got update or got rendered paperweight just something happened externally out of our control. Proof that it is dumb.

I much rather go driverless devices if I could.
 
The back and forwards browsing buttons in safari stopped working. Thats not AI BS, it's a core function as far as Im concerned.
Like I said, the available side button options were irrelevant to me, so I never used them and couldn’t comment on them. They’re not what I was referring to. The AI BS is separate.
 
Strange I had to uninstall AdGuard yesterday because of a certificate issue. Browsers didn't work anymore properly, even if removed from the Network filter and also when I completely closed the app and disabled the Assistant extension.
 
exactly. Mouse functionality should not be gate-kept by an internet connection. This mean LogiTech can brick my hardware whenever they want? Noe of this makes sense
My LT mouse kept functioning normally, only network/BT-communication stuff like Flow (swithes the mouse between PCs) didn’t work anymore. I did not pay attention to it, as this happens more often with the LT+ crap until I read this article :) LogiTech+ ate around 10-15% CPU on my MB Air M4. The thing is, many people won’t notice a thing. That is disturbing.
 
It doesn’t matter if it is not cloud or it is. Reality here that software got update or got rendered paperweight just something happened externally out of our control. Proof that it is dumb.

I much rather go driverless devices if I could.
I didn’t say it wasn’t dumb, I just cleared up misinformation about it being somehow related to an internet connection. This issue has nothing at all to do with internet connectivity.

And while I'm at it (clearing up misinformation), it's not that 'something happened externally out of out control', its more like something didn't happen. There was no change, the cert expired.

You can go driverless, you just don’t want to.
 
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I can’t say about the side buttons because they are completely useless. Logi Options+ doesn’t let you set them as button 3 & 4, and the available options aren’t useful to me, so I forget they’re there.

I didn’t change scroll direction from how I had it set up in my Mac settings, but force feel and acceleration settings haven’t changed at all after deleting Logi Options+
forward and back functionality for websites is nice.
 
wait, so if logitech go under, then people's keyboards and mice stop working? wild.
No, just functionality that goes beyond Apple's mice. E.g. the extra buttons needs a driver. They're standard USB buttons.

In theory, they could work better without a driver if Apple released a better, more capable mouse than they do now.
 
My LT mouse kept functioning normally, only network/BT-communication stuff like Flow (swithes the mouse between PCs) didn’t work anymore. I did not pay attention to it, as this happens more often with the LT+ crap until I read this article :) LogiTech+ ate around 10-15% CPU on my MB Air M4. The thing is, many people won’t notice a thing. That is disturbing.
That's interesting because the functions of my mouse stopped and I didn't even have Logi+ open..I never do. I'll be checking the ram usage now.
 
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