Well I had two reservations at Aspen Grove which would have made me have to wait outside in the hot 90+ degree sun. Instead, I went to Flatirons a nice mall in Broomfield Co. Only had to wait in the sun for maybe 30 minutes from 7.30 to 8 before the line moved enough to where we were inside the coolness of the mall. No sunburn here.
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Well I had two reservations at Aspen Grove which would have made me have to wait outside in the hot 90+ degree sun. Instead, I went to Flatirons a nice mall in Broomfield Co. Only had to wait in the sun for maybe 30 minutes from 7.30 to 8 before the line moved enough to where we were inside the coolness of the mall. No sunburn here.
Economic freedom is nice to have.Read it again "Sam" - time is money, so paying $72 to save 4 hours of waiting... well you do the math. Besides, I sold my old 3G (before the market saturated) because I wanted the new model.
I am definitely an Apple fan
This seems reasonable, and you substituting for someone else won't hurt anyone behind you - people 50 back were still 50 back, and it shouldn't matter if the identities of people in front changed.
On the other hand, economic freedom would also permit the first person in line to buy all of the available phones and then sell them on ebay for $1,000 apiece. Economic freedom is not the only kind of freedom, or even the most important kind.
There was no debate about the virtues of moderation and restraint, and so, I had no comment about extremes of economic freedom, nor the idea of its existence as the only freedom to be had. Thank you though for your input alhedges.
Walk-ins?
Has anyone heard how many phones for walk-ins AT&T stores will be getting Tuesday? Or possibly if they would come Monday? I know each store is different but I don't know if anyone has heard anything. I plan on getting there early on Tuesday to give it another shot since they broke my heart on Thursday.
Has anyone heard how many phones for walk-ins AT&T stores will be getting Tuesday? Or possibly if they would come Monday? I know each store is different but I don't know if anyone has heard anything. I plan on getting there early on Tuesday to give it another shot since they broke my heart on Thursday.
Wasn't gonna get it right away but walked in and got it!!
I was really going to wait (really!). My 3GS was working well and I was liking the 4.0 iOS just fine, but the wife and daughter were at the mall and called to say they had iPhones in stock (surprise to me). So now I got the phone, with no advanced purchase and only a 2 hour wait in line (by my family no less!!)!
Gosh this thing is sweet!!
I guess we are a fanboy family!
I was really going to wait (really!). My 3GS was working well and I was liking the 4.0 iOS just fine, but the wife and daughter were at the mall and called to say they had iPhones in stock (surprise to me). So now I got the phone, with no advanced purchase and only a 2 hour wait in line (by my family no less!!)!
Gosh this thing is sweet!!
I guess we are a fanboy family!
I just came back from the mall in suburbia Dallas and picked up my new iphone 4 with only an 1.25 hr wait...wooot!
Just picked mine up as a walk-in from Glendale Galleria in So Cal. 20 minute wait, 30 minutes start to finish. Only had 32 gb version left, which is what I wanted.
I can totally reproduce the antenna issue. If I lay it on my desk I have 4 bars. If I pick it up and naturally hold it with my left hand so that lower left corner of the phone is in my palm and my thumb runs along the left side, within 20 seconds it drops to 1 bar. I set it down and withing 20 seconds it's back up to 4 bars.
No visible yellow spots on display.
Display is unbelievably awesome.
This phone is fast. Feels as fast as my iPad.
Love it.
I can totally reproduce the antenna issue. If I lay it on my desk I have 4 bars. If I pick it up and naturally hold it with my left hand so that lower left corner of the phone is in my palm and my thumb runs along the left side, within 20 seconds it drops to 1 bar. I set it down and withing 20 seconds it's back up to 4 bars.
No visible yellow spots on display.
Display is unbelievably awesome.
This phone is fast. Feels as fast as my iPad.
Love it.
It will last until the majority of iPhone owners upgrade. Then there will very few new sales. Mostly because of AT&T. If Apple wants more growth, it has to open it up to other carriers.
Talking from personal experience?
I waited in line and got a perfect product. I've tried to make the the signal drop and unless I hold the phone in an un-natural way I cant get it to fail.
Maybe people took time off work to queue?
You have a social personality and the Douche Bag Detector (DBD) filter didn't kick in. The signal quality only drops for those who enjoy complaining. It's a feature!
What was really bad is that one of the guys had a very visible tattoo of an American flag on his forearm
Karma is a bitch and I'm sure he will end up with one!
I guess you didn't know that some peoe who ordered on the 15th got a delivery date of July 2nd. Hopefully you will be able to eat your cheerios now without spilling the milk again.
I had an online order that was scheduled to ship on 2nd July - but that doesn't really work for me in accepting the delivery, so I thought I would get to the Apple store early on launch day, and join the queue if it wasn't that long.
Got there before 5:30AM, and there was a single line, probably 250-300 people. Not too bad, should be able to get served and get to work before 10, so I joined the line.
We then got split into 'reserved' and 'unreserved'. This pushed some reserved people that joined later closer to the front of their line, but a reporter came along and counted about 400 people ahead of me - reserved and unreserved included. With the store opening at 7am, it still shouldn't be a problem if the lines are served equally.
Then the doors opened, and the reserved line started to move. And continued to move. Those of us in the unreserved line did not move AT ALL for almost 2 hours. We were never informed of anything. Whilst Apple employees were going up and down talking to those in the reserved line, not one came past the unreserved side. When they finally did, we pointed this out - and immediately they started moving both lines equally.
From that point, we very quickly got inside the Apple store. Looked promising that we would be served within an hour or so. But the closer we got to the front, the slower the queue went. In all, instead of being in the store for about an hour as it looked we might be, we were there for 3 hours. That's on top of the 4 hours we had been in queues outside the store.
To top it off, when we got to the front, we were told that reservations had not paid, and they did not have priority - it just meant they were guaranteed a phone. Well, if that had actually been true, we would have been served at least 2 hours sooner.
When I joined the queue, I only did so because it was a line of about 300 people. If I had known it was effectively going to be a queue of 1000+ in front of me, I wouldn't have bothered. Neither would most of the people around me. In fact, by the time we did actually get served most of us were in agreement - if we could have walked out of the store right then without an iPhone, and time went back to 5:30AM, we would have done.
But I got a phone. And a bumper (as it turns out, fortunately, as I'm left handed). And an O2 PAYG micro-sim. My phone was activated on the micro-sim. However, I do have an existing O2 PAYG account, that I would like to sim-swap onto it. This has not gone through. Thinking it might be because the network has already seen the sim, I thought I might try and get another PAYG micro-sim today, that I could sim-swap onto before inserting it.
One O2 store didn't have any. The next was far too busy to ask anyone (queue half-way down the street). The third said they weren't giving them out to new customers.
So I went back to the Apple store. At which point they claimed that they can't offer a micro-sim as O2 aren't doing PAYG. They brought up the O2 shop pages, and sure enough the PAYG tariff information has been taken down - it was on the page for over a week up to and including yesterday.
So what is this? Is the Apple store / online store deliberately selling a £599 sim-free paperweight, because anyone receiving a unit now - good luck trying to get hold of a micro-sim.
OK, now technically I can probably get to a working solution from where I am now, but with the (backlogged? failed?) sim-swap, I'm a little bit in limbo right now. But still, I'm LIVID about the way I've been duped into waiting for a very long time, and over what I've heard / seen today, which is just a disgrace.
It's not as bad as someone else I know. She received an upgrade iPhone from Orange, with a micro-sim swap. But the micro-sim isn't recognised in the iPhone, so she can do nothing with it (not even use it as an iPod). Even using an adapter, it doesn't work in her old phone. The old sim has stopped working though, so she can't even use that in the old phone. She has had to wait 24 hours for this activation mess-up, but I strongly suspect that the transfer took place at the point the old sim stopped working, and the micro-sim is either faulty, or they have the wrong SSN in the system.
Either way, Orange have basically said they can't do ANYTHING about it until the end of the week.
The left-handed signal loss and yellow screens have had a lot of publicity, but really they are fairly benign. There is a more insidious side to this launch that I haven't seen covered at all yet.
Got there before 5:30AM, and there was a single line, probably 250-300 people. Not too bad, should be able to get served and get to work before 10, so I joined the line.
We then got split into 'reserved' and 'unreserved'. This pushed some reserved people that joined later closer to the front of their line, but a reporter came along and counted about 400 people ahead of me - reserved and unreserved included. With the store opening at 7am, it still shouldn't be a problem if the lines are served equally.
Then the doors opened, and the reserved line started to move. And continued to move. Those of us in the unreserved line did not move AT ALL for almost 2 hours. We were never informed of anything. Whilst Apple employees were going up and down talking to those in the reserved line, not one came past the unreserved side. When they finally did, we pointed this out - and immediately they started moving both lines equally.
From that point, we very quickly got inside the Apple store. Looked promising that we would be served within an hour or so. But the closer we got to the front, the slower the queue went. In all, instead of being in the store for about an hour as it looked we might be, we were there for 3 hours. That's on top of the 4 hours we had been in queues outside the store.
To top it off, when we got to the front, we were told that reservations had not paid, and they did not have priority - it just meant they were guaranteed a phone. Well, if that had actually been true, we would have been served at least 2 hours sooner.
When I joined the queue, I only did so because it was a line of about 300 people. If I had known it was effectively going to be a queue of 1000+ in front of me, I wouldn't have bothered. Neither would most of the people around me. In fact, by the time we did actually get served most of us were in agreement - if we could have walked out of the store right then without an iPhone, and time went back to 5:30AM, we would have done.
But I got a phone. And a bumper (as it turns out, fortunately, as I'm left handed). And an O2 PAYG micro-sim. My phone was activated on the micro-sim. However, I do have an existing O2 PAYG account, that I would like to sim-swap onto it. This has not gone through. Thinking it might be because the network has already seen the sim, I thought I might try and get another PAYG micro-sim today, that I could sim-swap onto before inserting it.
One O2 store didn't have any. The next was far too busy to ask anyone (queue half-way down the street). The third said they weren't giving them out to new customers.
So I went back to the Apple store. At which point they claimed that they can't offer a micro-sim as O2 aren't doing PAYG. They brought up the O2 shop pages, and sure enough the PAYG tariff information has been taken down - it was on the page for over a week up to and including yesterday.
So what is this? Is the Apple store / online store deliberately selling a £599 sim-free paperweight, because anyone receiving a unit now - good luck trying to get hold of a micro-sim.
OK, now technically I can probably get to a working solution from where I am now, but with the (backlogged? failed?) sim-swap, I'm a little bit in limbo right now. But still, I'm LIVID about the way I've been duped into waiting for a very long time, and over what I've heard / seen today, which is just a disgrace.
It's not as bad as someone else I know. She received an upgrade iPhone from Orange, with a micro-sim swap. But the micro-sim isn't recognised in the iPhone, so she can do nothing with it (not even use it as an iPod). Even using an adapter, it doesn't work in her old phone. The old sim has stopped working though, so she can't even use that in the old phone. She has had to wait 24 hours for this activation mess-up, but I strongly suspect that the transfer took place at the point the old sim stopped working, and the micro-sim is either faulty, or they have the wrong SSN in the system.
Either way, Orange have basically said they can't do ANYTHING about it until the end of the week.
The left-handed signal loss and yellow screens have had a lot of publicity, but really they are fairly benign. There is a more insidious side to this launch that I haven't seen covered at all yet.
What an idiot. I have 2 iP4s, my employees and friends have several more. None of us - NONE - can reproduce the signal loss issue or any of the supposed problems.
Our phones were delivered on time as promised and work flawlessly. Don't want one? Fine, Apple and the rest of us will struggle along without you.
I really don't see the reception problem being an actual problem for most people...who holds their phone like that anyways? Seems incredibly uncomfortable to me. Most people seem to hold it with only their thumb and fingers touching the edge of the phone, not with a full hand grasp.
It's a more secure grip. More importantly for lefties though, it leaves the thumb free to operate the volume controls.