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Looks like Flash is coming

I have mixed feelings about Flash. On the one hand, it would really improve the browsing experience due to its prevelance throughout the web. Yet on the other I've found it to be the cause of instability regardless of what platform it's on. I don't want to see the mobile Safari experience reduced to continous, inexplicable crashes and memory leaks, for the sake of "Flash"iness.
 
If this is true, I hope we have the option of not even installing it, or at the very least be able to disable it. I always browse with both plug-ins and Java disabled, whatever OS/Browser I use.

In fact, if a website gives me a blank page (or blank navigation and/or content), I close the tab. If someone can't make a real website that can be indexed, bookmarked on a specific page, have its content selected/saved, printed, etc. then I just go somewhere else.

There are exceptions of course, like YouTube. But Flash for navigation and/or content? Give me a break.
 
drusoicy said:
Andru from Gear Live here. <snip> Flash is coming soon. That is from our sources. As far as Flash being included with the SDK, that is just my own personal best guess.
<snip> BTW - we saw a surge of Diggs after this was posted on MacRumors. Thanks guys - it is appreciated :)
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Andru - Couldn't comment on your site using Firefox and noscript - what's up with your captcha?
Could you be more specific?

If the current in the wild iPhones don't have the chips to deal with Flash, it means this is relating to a new version iPhone. You'd think that they wouldn't put out a flash enabled one now, just to then put out a 3G one by the Japan launch in the summer.
So - either soon means a couple of months, or Apple are happy to suprise us and throw a 3G at us very soon. however, other phones slated to not use the chip till 3Q.

If the current iPhones can do Flash, they've got some apologising/explaining as to why it hasn't been turned on since day 1. Wouldn't the SDK "secrets within" be more than just Flash? I imagine SDK isn't going to be postponed (unlike from the rumors, the iTablet, which might be a separate release soon, possibly at the end of February event also).

Anyone able to comment on what's needed for Flash to run on current iPhones? New chips, new OS version, new iPhone hardware?
 
t0mat0 said:
If the current iPhones can do Flash, they've got some apologising/explaining as to why it hasn't been turned on since day 1.
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Maybe Apple & Adobe were working out a deal?

I've always been of the belief that the iPhone was released before it was ready, and that we are slowly getting the iPhone Apple wanted to release at launch.
 
Perhaps a huge Flash plug-in is the reason for doubling iPhone storage capacity. With the SDK around the corner and new resident apps on the horizon, that 4 or 8 GB may get a bit snug by the end of the year.
 
I think there's other things Apple could add to the iPhone that would add more vaslue than fladh support (at least to me)

* Copy and Paste
* iChat (AIM/GTalk/Jabber) client
* Send / receive / accept / reject cal events, contacts, through email/bluetooth
* Java support
* sync calender, contacts, todo's, etc, with google apps
* ability to use a iPhone/iTouch as a controller on the Apple TV that Apple is going to turn into a game console :p
 
Isn't Flash likely to be slow on an iPhone?

Isn't Flash likely to be slow on an iPhone?

As I understand it, the effectiveness of Flash motion relies on the processor speed of the computer. What's the iPhones processor speed? Won't those nice, theatric flash sites slow down to a crawl on such a device?

-B
 
I am only aware of a working labs version of Flash Lite (for the iPhone) at Adobe. Flash Lite is just simplified version of the real flash player, which indeed is capable to be running on the iPhone with good performance (even works on those nokia phones with crappy cpu).

The Flash Lite platform is licensed to manufactures and then the manufacuter has to port the base implementation to there hardware (minimum is 100mhz). Now I think Flash Lite would perform reasonable because of the fast processor in the iPhone. I am not sure if it's fast enough for the full blown Flash plugin, though. Probably not.

See a nice picture at: http://raud.ut.ee/~tec/thesis/MastersThesis_files/image015.jpg
 
Prof. said:
You know, now that I think about it, I really don't mind paying for the upgrades for my touch. You iPhone users are paying at least $60 a month for service and we aren't.
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I was already a Cingular/ATT customer so getting the iPhone only costs an additional $20.

Personally, I don't miss Flash on the phone. I'd really like to see more calendar alert options (yearly, monthly, 1st Tuesday of every month, etc.)
 
this is one thing where microsoft did it first, and was one of my main complaints about the iphone (even though i have one). battery life or no, it should've been there from the beginning.

the biggest thing is the games. we needed games! and flash is the best way to do that.

if microsoft can do it, why can't apple? the guy in the cube next to me has flash on his phone!
 
This was pretty obvious. No confirmation, but it was pretty obvious that there would be Flash for the iPhone. Hopefully we don't get duped and it releases with the SDK. =)

My guess is that Flash and iChat are the first things coming out. (and copy and paste =P)
 
iBeard said:
Maybe Apple & Adobe were working out a deal?
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The thing I don't get is why wasn't Flash capability talked about in iPhone strip downs? Or have I missed something?

Can someone tell me if the current ones could do Flash, if Adobe said yes to Apple? Or do people need new iPhones?
 
t0mat0 said:
The thing I don't get is why wasn't Flash capability talked about in iPhone strip downs? Or have I missed something?

Can someone tell me if the current ones could do Flash, if Adobe said yes to Apple? Or do people need new iPhones?
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No one can really tell you that, it really depends on the flash animation. I can tell you right now that there will be flash with caveats for sure. I think that getting really basic stuff like Youtube's flash to work on the iPhone will be easy, but some of that heavier stuff is going to be a real resource hog. It may just not work on the phone, or maybe it will just take forever.
 
The SDK

So Adobe AIR is having it's official coming out this month:

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9058878

Not based on any concrete facts, but I suspect that the iPhone SDK will be in the form of Adobe Flash. Sandbox, large developer base that's cross platform, proven technology that will go mobile. It'll sadden me if this is the case, but it will most likely create an instant line up of popular applications.

Now for the kicker... Apple to announce the acquisition of Adobe on Feb 28th. (Not based on any factual information, purely speculation).
 
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