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Have we really sunk this low - that we're now arguing about looking thin versus actually being thin?
 
volume buttons..

I saw this image posted above, with the same rocker style buttons on the 3gs and previous iphones.. I think it completely transforms the overall look, and is far more aesthetically pleasing that those horrible circular buttons. Apart from those I love the design, but they don't really go seeing as the rest of the phone is so angular. does anyone else think the same ? I really hope Apple puts this on the final production model.
 

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Have we really sunk this low - that we're now arguing about looking thin versus actually being thin?

Making an observation is considered sinking low? Nothing wrong with making a general observation, people do it all the time when commenting on a product.

My trouser pocket cares more about it actually being thinner, rather than just looking thinner...

We'll see if the rectangular shape is more comfortable or sticks out in the pants pocket more than the curved current generation (I wear it in my front jeans pocket with the screen face down).
 
If this has been said already Please dis-regard.... I read the first page and after the 3rd screw comment I have to say something.

Hey morons.... look at the bottom of your 3g and 3gs..... see that.... its freakin screws!! You say nothing about the screws on 3g/3gs but complain about these on the "new" iPhone!! Something tells me no matter what it looked like some of you would still be bitching!
 
This just in: GIZMODO has announced that they have a second earlier prototype. lol
 

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I saw this image posted above, with the same rocker style buttons on the 3gs and previous iphones.. I think it completely transforms the overall look, and is far more aesthetically pleasing that those horrible circular buttons. Apart from those I love the design, but they don't really go seeing as the rest of the phone is so angular. does anyone else think the same ? I really hope Apple puts this on the final production model.

Agreed! I hope they don't keep those ugly buttons. :eek: It makes the phone look 10x better imo.

No seams and new buttons make it one sexy iPhone
 

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god i hope the phone IS the one shown above. I WOULD BE ALL OVER IT, and i wouldnt put a case on this one for the 1st time, design is too beautiful. I would just put a zagg or bodyguardz
 
Agreed! I hope they don't keep those ugly buttons. :eek: It makes the phone look 10x better imo.

No seams and new buttons make it one sexy iPhone

personally I don't mind the seams as I feel it adds a little something, but I doubt they will be in the final design, especially as it's likely Apple will mirror their unibody style Aluminium into it. As for the buttons however, I think they would be useful for dedicated camera shutter buttons/ zoom, but the circular design looks tacky and doesn't fit the overall design.

And as for everybody complaining about the screws visible at the bottom, do you remember the twitpic photo's released of what seems to be the same device (or very similar) back in Feb? Notice on the bottom there are no screws, and it would seem odd (to me certainly) that Apple would go from a design without the screws (and what looks to be slightly larger speakers/ mic) to a design with them on. It could be that the engineer had his prototype for a while before losing it, and the design has since been tweaked slightly.
 
I'm liking this design as well. This would be my first iPhone. (Still with Verizon but considering eating my ETF ($85) to switch). That being said I'm wavering now if I should just pull the trigger now on a 3GS or wait the 2 months. I'm stuck with an LG EV2 that I cannot stand.
 
Maybe my expectations were a bit high, but I cannot help feel somewhat disappointed with the design (if it is indeed very very close to final) - it just looks "clunky"and more like something that Sony Ericsson or Nokia would ship.

:(

I was seriously expecting something more along the lines of an iPad 3G lookalike .. am I alone in thinking this ?

Having said that, the specs look good !

I agree, It should have the same style unibody back as the iPad. This just looks like a prototype, there is just too much going on here, what's with the black back, plan aluminium sides and black front? It should ether be all black, or plan aluminium with the usual black front.
 
Thanks skyehill, your insight is valuable as always. You make MacRumors a real joy for intelligent discussion.

(Adds skyehill to Ignore list.)

Getting tired of the troll infestation around here.

You're SUCH a ***** moron fanboy. A sickening, hypocritical sad sack of s-t You're pathetic. Go stick your head in the sand when someone dares criticize your Sainted Apple and purposely choose to live in your Walled Garden. You deserve a lifetime of misery for you stupidity.

Between you and Steve H. Jobs-Christ's minions "L*T*D", the p-y quota in for Kool-Aid drinkers is skyyyyyyyyy high!

But I wish him well. :D
 
I find it funny how every apple fan boy on this site was like "that's not the real thing, it's ugly and disgusting, apple would never make something like that" to "wow, I love it, it's nice" after finding out it's the real thing. Makes me wonder ...

Gotta agree (where are all the people who disliked it before, now everyone likes it). I am one of those that said it doesn't look apple like. I also said I didn't think it was ugly but it looked very generic (my vote was not for ewwwww, I won't buy it but for, myeh, not all that exciting looking).

And honestly, the genericness is starting to bug me more and I was/am kinda hoping they do something to refine it a little more.

It looks like a nokia/samsung/every other cellphone out there. It's not noticeabley ugly, it's just, well, there. It does look better with the rocker buttons, I really hope those circular buttons aren't final.

I kinda liked the curved back to mine. It made it slip into my purse really easy for one and it held nicely in my hand. And I liked it enough I didn't put a case around it cause I just couldn't get myself to hide a design like that (now it has one cause the back is cracked and I'm trying to make it last until the new one). I suppose I hsould wait til I can hold one to say judgement on how well it holds in your hands but with those sharp corners it doesn't look near as ergonomical.

Here's one vote for I hope that's not final. Only good thing I can say is I like it better than the proposal some one had for it looking like the ipad (I like the ipad but the case I saw for the iphone looked really ugly, not evne just generic. Don't ask, form works for the ipad I guess but not iphone, sometimes size matters in how well a form looks).
 
My prediction

My prediction is that Steve calls a special event.

Comes out - talks about sales, iAds, etc etc.

"And one more thing.... because Gizmodo spoiled the party, NO NEW IPHONES FOR YOU. See you in 2011."
 
Gotta agree (where are all the people who disliked it before, now everyone likes it). I am one of those that said it doesn't look apple like. I also said I didn't think it was ugly but it looked very generic (my vote was not for ewwwww, I won't buy it but for, myeh, not all that exciting looking).

And honestly, the genericness is starting to bug me more and I was/am kinda hoping they do something to refine it a little more.

It looks like a nokia/samsung/every other cellphone out there. It's not noticeabley ugly, it's just, well, there. It does look better with the rocker buttons, I really hope those circular buttons aren't final.

I kinda liked the curved back to mine. It made it slip into my purse really easy for one and it held nicely in my hand. And I liked it enough I didn't put a case around it cause I just couldn't get myself to hide a design like that (now it has one cause the back is cracked and I'm trying to make it last until the new one). I suppose I hsould wait til I can hold one to say judgement on how well it holds in your hands but with those sharp corners it doesn't look near as ergonomical.

Here's one vote for I hope that's not final. Only good thing I can say is I like it better than the proposal some one had for it looking like the ipad (I like the ipad but the case I saw for the iphone looked really ugly, not evne just generic. Don't ask, form works for the ipad I guess but not iphone, sometimes size matters in how well a form looks).

Agreed 100%.
 
god i hope the phone IS the one shown above. I WOULD BE ALL OVER IT, and i wouldnt put a case on this one for the 1st time, design is too beautiful. I would just put a zagg or bodyguardz
They don't want you to put a case on this time, I think.

If I were Steve Jobs I would hate these damn cases because everyone has them. With other cellphones in the past, only nerds like IT guys used cases, but with the iPhone it's almost become mandatory and therefore the cases become part of product's image. So instead of thinking "iPhone = mmmmm..." people start to think "iPhone... fat ugly fluorescent green rubber brick".

It served Apple right for making such a fragile (at least fragile looking) and scratch-prone mobile(!) product, almost like the old iPods with chrome back and plastic front, they'd scratch if you looked at them funny.

I think Steve called Johnny Ive and said "Look, there's no question you make wonderful looking designs, but I'm starting to realize that the only place they remain good looking is inside glass display cases. Take the iPhone 3G. Looks wonderful in pictures, but out in the real world they look like ****. The front is greasier than a frying pan and the back is covered in some godawful pink condom because the user is afraid of scratches. So what can we do about this?"

"Well, we could start by putting oleophobic coating on the front. We can do that on the 3GS, in fact, no biggie."

"Great, now about those ****in' cases from hell."

"Right, well, what we need to do for the next one is build a phone so rugged it will scratch everything it touches, rather than the other way around."

"Ah. Now we're talking. But how?"

"Well, how about an aluminum* unibody with crumple zones and a zirconia back?"

"Sounds good. Here's a goal for you: When I show this thing for the first time, I'm going to drop it on the floor twice, and then I'm going to take out a kitchen knife and start carving like mad on the back. And afterwards I'm going to hold it up close to the camera and show that it's totally undamaged, so it had better *be* undamaged. OK?" *click*

(*= sorry, that should've been aluminIum, he's British)
 
I would love nothing better than an aluminum back, HOWEVER, i think it s out of the question due to radio interference (note the black plastic area at the top of an iPad 3G for the antenna). maybe one of the engineer types out there could answer that question better as well as "could the "spilt bezel" use one part to function as an outside antenna?

Magic 8-Ball says "Very doubtful."

Pay attention!

1) In 2006, Apple filed a patent for using zirconia (ceramic) as part of the exterior of mobile devices. They picked zirconia, or zirconium dioxide, for its combination of durability and radio signal transparency.

2) They moved from aluminum on the original iPhone to plastic on the 3G. This was only done because aluminum got too much in the way of the 3G signal, and they weren't done figuring out how to use zirconia. It took them 4 years, and the end result is the phone that Gizmodo got their hands on.

What took them so long, well... the problem with zirconium dioxide is that it's an industrial grade thermal insulation material that refuses to let any heat out, and as 3GS owners know those things can get smoking hot. So Apple had to figure out a way to sneak the heat past the zirconia, which is why the phone now has a metal unibody.


Correct. I'm guessing the older prototype is from a time when Apple still had this pipe dream of eliminating the screws, but stress tests showed that if the 30-pin connector isn't secured with screws it will sooner or later snap off and disappear into the phone.

you must be nuts my friend...Apple ditched the Aluminum backed phones back in 08 because of reception issues...the metal blocks those important cellular signals...

No it won't.

Ok! Fine i get it! no alu back cover...told you i was nuts :D it's a shame though, the first "iPhone4 alu back covers" pic's to show up here in the forum where beautiful.

I'm not much for this design

Let's see
 
Ok! Fine i get it! no alu back cover...told you i was nuts :D it's a shame though, the first "iPhone4 alu back covers" pic's to show up here in the forum where beautiful.

Beautiful, perhaps, but it would be even more beautiful if the front was aluminum too. There's just the minor trade-off of not being able to see the screen...

They can't use aluminum because it kills most of the signal. On the laptops it's different because the aluminum is thin like a soda can in places, but it needs to be thick on a small handheld thingy. So then they have to make a plastic window in the aluminum, which is structurally dubious and butt ugly.

Only Apple can run into problems like these, since they insist on thinking different-ly, as in "let's pick materials first, and then worry about whether they work or not".
 
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