Actually that's what I thought was on the sugar cube too, but IIRC the military abandoned LSD as a truth serum in the mid to late 60's as it was pretty unreliable with it's hallucination producing effects. It is quite possible that the Dharmites still used it as a primitive truth serum.
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Lost TV show (Part 2) -- includes spoilers on show nights
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^ Though Sayid did tell them they used the right amount of the stuff.
Meh, Lost has its foundations in lack of communication. It used to annoy the hell out of me but it has become the norm now, I guess.
So. The 77 Dharma folk know about this island (clearly) they likely know about how different time passes on the island, about the healing properties and that it can only be found in certain ways. Yet they think Sayid is making up his "I'm from the future" warning? The Dharma had videos demonstrating teleportation or time travel (forget what exactly) after all.
Meh, Lost has its foundations in lack of communication. It used to annoy the hell out of me but it has become the norm now, I guess.
So. The 77 Dharma folk know about this island (clearly) they likely know about how different time passes on the island, about the healing properties and that it can only be found in certain ways. Yet they think Sayid is making up his "I'm from the future" warning? The Dharma had videos demonstrating teleportation or time travel (forget what exactly) after all.
Daniel Faraday outlined "the rules" about time travel. But why are we so sure that he's correct? Just because he's a scientist?
Perhaps the eventual outcome will be that Flight 815 never crashed because someone stepped on a butterfly, or because young Ben died.
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Perhaps the eventual outcome will be that Flight 815 never crashed because someone stepped on a butterfly, or because young Ben died.
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If Ben dying was going to keep all of this from happening, it would probably not happen midseason of the season before the last. it would happen mid last season.
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Exactly.
And I bet it's as a child that Ben falls in love with Juliette.
*Assuming Ben told the truth, that is
Ben's young girlfriend, the one who gave him the doll she made and years later we see a see of Ben holding both his doll and the one of him she kept for herself. We are left to think that she died in the gas attack when the Others wiped out the Dharma Initiative. That is one of the questions I'd like cleared up. Did she die?
Hmmmm. Yeah, they probably considered it still the most reliable way to get info out of someone non-violently.
I just noticed the irony (right? I'm on Fark so much that I am terrified of using that word) of that scene. Sayid, a person who tortures and kills to get information, and is not always successful, was the recipient of a non-violent means to get information, and gave it up quickly and easily.
do you think the purge would not happen if ben was dead?
for what i remember, ben was involved, but it was likely decided by someone else (alpert?).
however, i do think that without Ben's leadership the others wouldn't have gone to live in dharmaville, possibly accounting for its dilapidated state when Sun arrived there in 2007.
When farraday said it, the producers confirmed that it was a non-paradoxical view of time travel, not the paradoxical Back to the Future view.
Then again, they could be lying.
I don't think Ben is dead, but Sayid wouldn't miss a shot like that, unless the island intervened. Remember when Michael tried to kill himself?
Let's not forget that Locke was shot and left for dead as well. A "fatal" bullet wound is only fatal if the island lets it be fatal.
We don't know that the 77 Dharma people know all that stuff yet. Obviously they know that the island is special, and that's why they're there, but maybe the people who are paying for Dharma haven't shared all they know about the island with the Dharma people. Eventually they may learn all of that, but not until after all of their stations are built and until all of their experiments are able to be performed.
I'll advance the theory that Ben dying won't be paradoxical, and will somehow relate to how Richard Alpert told him he'd have to be patient for a long time in order to become an Other.
Was the flaming bus crashing into the Dharma compound was the beginning of the main Other assault on Dharma that kills most of the Initiative staff?
Was the flaming bus crashing into the Dharma compound was the beginning of the main Other assault on Dharma that kills most of the Initiative staff?
Just started watching the series 3 days ago, I'm on the last episode of Season 1. What can I expect from now on ? Please no spoilers if you're replying me, I already saw the picture with John Locke at the funeral >_>.
In my opinion, the show is pretty additive and is no where near predictive. I hope I can catch up to the last season too.
In my opinion, the show is pretty additive and is no where near predictive. I hope I can catch up to the last season too.
No, I don't think so. I think that was the beginning of Ben being Ben. He did what he needed to do to distract everyone and get Phil to leave the security room so that he could spring Sayid.
I think that Ben will survive the gunshot. Being shot by someone he trusted will just be another thing that will push Ben towards the paranoid, untrusting, plotting, self-serving person he becomes. Maybe it will turn out to be the major push he needed to become what he becomes.
Expect a lot of madness and expect some stuff you would consider to be the end to not be the end.
Also, expect a lot of spoilers if you decide to browse this thread while continuing your way through the series. If you don't want anything ruined for you, then I'd advise waiting until you're caught up before looking through this thread. The show is so much cooler if you find stuff out as you watch.
Enjoy......
More specifically, the shows from previous seasons were discussed in Part 1 of this thread. This is Part 2, the discussion starting at Season 5. Both threads are full of spoilers in the sense that people talked about each episode after they watched it. It will be tricky to read either thread while catching up with episodes without reading too far and running into information on the next episode.
Too bad we didn't put the episode title in the first post that discussed each episode, so you'd know where the episode breaks are!
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so sad that Lost will end its production on season 6 next year. Sorry I'm new here. Would you guys think the producer will keep producing Lost after season 6? I would love to watch it, nice show... last month I just started to watch lost and refresh my "lost" mind episodes on this website.. told by my friends. http://www.lostonlinestreaming.com
Agreed. 6 years is a healthy time for just about any live-action show to last. You don't want a show that goes too short (Arrested Development, Firefly, etc.), but more importantly, you don't want a show to last too long (Millionaire, Big Brother, ER, Law & Order) - the latter being much worse a sin. 6 Seasons will be perfect for LOST, as long as they don't end it poorly.
Edit: To each his own on TV shows, obviously, but thank God ER is ending this month...
Suppose, when the show has finally ended, they put together a replay of the entire story in chronological order, rather than with the flashbacks and flashforwards as we've seen it. Would it be fun or boring to watch it?
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