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You're thinking along the same lines as I. I believe that in a near death experience, one lives on the island, but in real time only lasts for that split second before death or coming back to life. So, Charlie choked on the bag of heroin and in that instant, he experienced everything from the island.

So during the turbulence, everyone had a similar near death experience and that's what we're watching on the island. When someone "dies" on the island, it means they either lived or died from that near death experience.

So Desmond is having a near death experience every time he goes to his alternate life scenes? I believe he fainted again once he asked for the oceanic 815 manifest at the end when going with Sayid. That's near death?
 
So Desmond is having a near death experience every time he goes to his alternate life scenes? I believe he fainted again once he asked for the oceanic 815 manifest at the end when going with Sayid. That's near death?


I think when that happened wasn't there a white flash ? It could mean he shifted in time.
 
So Desmond is having a near death experience every time he goes to his alternate life scenes? I believe he fainted again once he asked for the oceanic 815 manifest at the end when going with Sayid. That's near death?

Well we know Desmond is different. So maybe his traveling to the island is for different reasons than the 815 flight members.

It's just a thought, I don't know if I believe what I said is true, but I like to give people things to think about and often times someone will spin off on a tangent and lead us into a new discussion which could be more probable.
 
I think Charlie knows that they don't belong in that timeline, so death is something that he welcomes. It would explain why he didn't try to save himself when he was awake under water.

Or the Island won't let him die... Like Michael.

It really seems like they have opposite destinies than they did on the island.

Destiny vs. Free will kind of thing.
 
I think the idea that they're all living a near death experience on the island is one of the worst theories I've ever heard, and completely disregards all the very dense plotting that's gone on with Jacob, MiB, the Others, Dharma, the Egyptian mythology, the science of time-travel, everything.

Anyone got an explanation for how the bomb causes the timeline split but somehow Ben, Roger, Eloise, Widmore etc who were all on the island in 1977, somehow managed to get off and yet their island is now at the bottom of the ocean?
 
I think the idea that they're all living a near death experience on the island is one of the worst theories I've ever heard, and completely disregards all the very dense plotting that's gone on with Jacob, MiB, the Others, Dharma, the Egyptian mythology, the science of time-travel, everything.

Anyone got an explanation for how the bomb causes the timeline split but somehow Ben, Roger, Eloise, Widmore etc who were all on the island in 1977, somehow managed to get off and yet their island is now at the bottom of the ocean?

I do but nobody agrees with my theory.

Everybody is dead.
 
Anyone got an explanation for how the bomb causes the timeline split but somehow Ben, Roger, Eloise, Widmore etc who were all on the island in 1977, somehow managed to get off and yet their island is now at the bottom of the ocean?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't have the time to look it up, but didn't they blow the bomb up before 1977 so B, R, E and W in the new time line were never on it?
 
I do but nobody agrees with my theory.

Everybody is dead.

Years ago, when Lost first became popular and the theories started, one of the theories was that everybody is dead and they are stuck between heaven and hell. The producers said that that theory is 100% not true. They would not pull a T-Zone and just do a Hey hey they all died in the plane crash ending. Sorry.
 
Tonight's episode is titled 'Everybody Loves Hugo'.

For those of you who have been following along, the titles of season 6 episode's have been closely related to titles from other seasons. Any others you can think of?

2-9 What Kate Did
6-3 What Kate Does

1-19 Deus Ex Machina
6-4 The Substitute

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6-5 Lighthouse

1-6 House of the Rising Sun
6-6 Sundown

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6-7 Dr. Linus

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6-8 Recon

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6-9 Ab Aeterno

3-12 Par Avion
6-10 The Package

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6-11 Happily Ever After

2-4 Everybody Hates Hugo
6-12 Everybody Loves Hugo
 
God, LOST is just getting crazier and incredibly real for me. I just flipped my chair up when getting out of the chair saying "DESMOND IS GOING FOR LOCKE, HES GONNA DO IT, HES GONNA DO IT. HOLY MOTHERLOAD COCKALOODOO, HE KILLED HIM." I have no freakin clue what the alternate timeline means or what it brings to the current timeline on the island.

It feels like Jack and Locke are the jacob/mib dude that are alive or something. Desmond must really know what he's doing. He realizes Hurley is seeing the current timeline when kissing libby in the alternate timeline. A lot happened in this episode. I wish this show wouldnt end.
 
There goes one of my theories shot to hell! LOL

Those Whispers are the island dead that can't leave because of what they have done on the island.

Thought they were higher powered? beings controlling the game...

Nice to know that though.

Nice to see Libby, and Desmond truly becoming the islands constant by pushing everyone to remember.

A little bit of irony as Ben tries to help Locke after Desmond runs him down. Didn't Desmond tell Locke to get out of the hatch before it blew or was that Jack?

WTF was up with that song/dialog? for next weeks preview? Straight from the original "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" as the Oompa Loompa's row down the chocolate river through the dark tunnel :D

Listen to the words starting at about 1:42

Wonka's psychedelic boat trip

Another reference to down the rabbit hole (through the looking glass), sort of where Desmond is now...
 
Did Desmond run over Locke because he's trying to recreate the circumstances of the return flight to the island? Is that what Widmore asked him to do. It's tough being the only guy who can travel between worlds.
 
Did Desmond run over Locke because he's trying to recreate the circumstances of the return flight to the island? Is that what Widmore asked him to do. It's tough being the only guy who can travel between worlds.


I think Desmond is trying to re-create the whole original timeline.

That was a shock when Ilana blew herself up. Jack can't kill himself with the dynamite but he can be accidentally killed by it ?
 
I think Desmond is trying to re-create the whole original timeline.

I thought it was more a matter of proving to each of them that the island won't let them die (it's not done with them yet in the words of Ben) in this timeline. That was the point of Charlie with the car crash, at least that's what I've been thinking.

That was a shock when Ilana blew herself up. Jack can't kill himself with the dynamite but he can be accidentally killed by it ?

I was really sick of her anyway. I'm thinking the island was too.

Does Ben really know more than he's letting on?
 
I thought it was more a matter of proving to each of them that the island won't let them die (it's not done with them yet in the words of Ben) in this timeline. That was the point of Charlie with the car crash, at least that's what I've been thinking.

That AND I think Desmond wants to be sure that Locke sees the alternative timeline and as we have previously established here, one can indeed do that as you are close to death...and when you are in the midst of true love's kiss apparantly. ;) (seemingly anything extremely emotional or traumatic)

Guess who is going to be Locke's Dr? ;)

Preview next week hints that Sayid goes to the well...perhaps he has a change of heart and helps Desmond out?

When do Sun and Jin meet again? I cannot wait!
 
So.... where's Walt???

That was another good episode. I could have sworn that we've seen Hugo and Libby in that same room before (in the mental hospital) a couple seasons ago.
 
I could have sworn that we've seen Hugo and Libby in that same room before (in the mental hospital) a couple seasons ago.

You did. At the very end of a season 2 episode, I believe it was "Dave". Hurley is taking his meds and he takes them happily (after refusing for much of the episode) then the camera pulls back into the room and we see that Libby is there...watching.

Seemed like Libby was going to have a bigger role in all this because of that one scene...imagine my surprise when she was killed off a few episodes later. :confused:
 
That was a shock when Ilana blew herself up. Jack can't kill himself with the dynamite but he can be accidentally killed by it ?
Funny you should ask.
mstrze said:
When do Sun and Jin meet again? I cannot wait!
Imagine this happened after the credits.
mstrze said:
Preview next week hints that Sayid goes to the well...perhaps he has a change of heart and helps Desmond out?
After Locke gives him a clue like this.
mstrze said:
That AND I think Desmond wants to be sure that Locke sees the alternative timeline and as we have previously established here, one can indeed do that as you are close to death...and when you are in the midst of true love's kiss apparantly. (seemingly anything extremely emotional or traumatic)
Was gonna ask why he didn't try to kill Hugo, but I guess that makes sense.

This Sun joke is going to get old fast.
 
Did anyone else notice that when Hurley was at the metal hospital, he was wearing sort of the same clothes as his did when he was a patient there himself?

Maybe Desmond is trying to get Hurley back into the mental hospital? Desmond scripted Libby to check herself in(she did say she was there voluntarily), so when she went to the restraunt, and went up to Hurley and knew his name, it was because she was "crazy"?
 
Maybe Desmond is trying to get Hurley back into the mental hospital?

No, Desmond's goal is to get everyone to remember their 'real' lives. He did this by convincing Hurley to pursue Libby.

Why would he want to get Hurley into the mental hospital? And how would he accomplish this?
 
So did Desmond believe Flocke was the real Locke or whut? He called him Locke a couple of times and then he ran him over, though it's not really Locke. So again - whut!

2 tiny bits stood out for me - the guy in the chicken costume looked very sinister and they mentioned God about 4 or 5 times.
 

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I'm a bit confused - maybe someone here can help. Where was Desmond in the last season where everyone kept going through time. Did he leave the island and that is why he was kidnapped?
 
So did Desmond believe Flocke was the real Locke or whut? He called him Locke a couple of times and then he ran him over, though it's not really Locke. So again - whut!

2 tiny bits stood out for me - the guy in the chicken costume looked very sinister and they mentioned God about 4 or 5 times.

Don't think the guy looks sinister after zooming in. It looks like Captain Picard smiling.
 
I'm a bit confused - maybe someone here can help. Where was Desmond in the last season where everyone kept going through time. Did he leave the island and that is why he was kidnapped?

Desmond left the Island with the Oceanic 6, but stayed on Penny's boat instead of faking the rescue with the rest of them, as that wouldn't make sense!
 
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