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And we didn't actually see Lupidus die now, did we? Sure he was whacked by that door, but there is not conclusive evidence that he is indeed dead. Just throwing that out in case the producers decide to bring him back into the mix. ;)

They need someone to fly that plane off the island. The only other pilot is Locke in the Alternate timeline, and apparently he sucked at it :p

I'm starting to get the feeling that everyone dies and yet MIB can't leave. Little Kwon is the last candidate and we get to see a flash forward.

Any hopes of Walt returning and revenging his fathers death?
 
Any hopes of Walt returning and revenging his fathers death?

Seems like quite a stretch at this point. Just explaining how he would get to the island would take a whole storyline/episode and we just don't have time for that now.
 
Little Kwon is the last candidate and we get to see a flash forward.

Any hopes of Walt returning and revenging his fathers death?

Your statement made me think that when we list the candidates, all we have are last names, right?

Ford, Shephard, Reyes ... etc.

And then we assume Ford is Sawyer, Shephard is Jack, Reyes is Hurley, etc.

Technically, Claire is a Shephard, right? Visually, as a blonde, she fits the role of the "white" stone of Jacob. Mentally ... well ... maybe that's why the last episode is 2.5 hours long.

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Technically, Claire is a Shephard, right? Visually, as a blonde, she fits the role of the "white" stone of Jacob. Mentally ... well ... maybe that's why the last episode is 2.5 hours long.

mt

I believe 'Littleton' was on the cave wall.
 
I'm starting to think now that the remaining reality will be the one where the plane didn't crash. It seems like that would be the only way to preserve any kind of happy or satisfying ending. Think about it, Jack is going to fix Locke, Claire will raise Aaron, Sun & Jin can together raise their daughter free of Sun's father's influence, Kate and Sawyer seem to be connecting, Hurley is happy and connecting with Libby, Sayid is supporting the love of his life even though he is not actually with her, Ben is contributng to society, and Desmond found Penny. I just find it hard to believe they would invest all this time in setting up the alternate reality just to have it disappear from existence in the end.


Edit: And can we stop with all the "they are in Hell" talk. We know that's not true because of Vincent. Think about it people, everyone knows that "all dogs go to heaven". ;)
 
Something I haven't understood.... if MIB wanted the losties dead so he could leave (and couldn't kill them himself), then surely he could have just lead them on some really ill-planned attack of Widmore's men that would have got them killed?

Perhaps only candidates can kill other candidates.

They need someone to fly that plane off the island. The only other pilot is Locke in the Alternate timeline, and apparently he sucked at it :p

HA!
 
Perhaps only candidates can kill other candidates.

Wow. you got it figured out. That may be the case. Locke does keep talking about saying how he could kill anybody whenever he wants. Jack says it all in that moment when they had a bomb.
 
Wow. you got it figured out. That may be the case. Locke does keep talking about saying how he could kill anybody whenever he wants. Jack says it all in that moment when they had a bomb.

Yeah, that whole scene with the bomb on the sub had some valuable information in it. First, we see that Jack is finally realizing that the Island is somewhat of a game with rules that can't be broken. Second, Sayid tells Jack that "it's going to be you" before he goes to kill himself. Is he talking about Jack being Jacob's replacement? How would he be privy to this kind of information?
 
Maybe that explains why Sayid didnt die from Roger Linus shooting him. Unless the Linus on the wall was for Roger instead of Ben. But Ben killed Goodspeed, Locke, and many others. Makes sense i suppose.

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Nvm, that doesnt work. The mercs killed both Rousseau chicks and none of the mercs are candidates as far as Lostipedia states.
 
Sayid tells Jack that "it's going to be you" before he goes to kill himself. Is he talking about Jack being Jacob's replacement? How would he be privy to this kind of information?
I've gotten the impression that Desmond has already seen how this is going to end. It may be that when he and Sayid had their little chat at the well, he told him this.
 
Maybe that explains why Sayid didnt die from Roger Linus shooting him. Unless the Linus on the wall was for Roger instead of Ben. But Ben killed Goodspeed, Locke, and many others. Makes sense i suppose.

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Nvm, that doesnt work. The mercs killed both Rousseau chicks and none of the mercs are candidates as far as Lostipedia states.

yep, candidates can be killed, by each other or third persons, just not by MIB.
i think ti's clear that the candidate is jack now, as sayid says "it's going to be you".
sidelines world is the future (even if it is still in the past), and the character will gain their island consciousness.
everyone seems to be better off in sideways world, except kate so far (but her maintaining that she is not a murderer is going to be relevant, methinks).
I also think that kate's name being crossed out in the cavern (which the MIB knows about) but not in the lighthouse (which the MIB does not know about) could be key.

a side question: how will jin and sun manage in sideways world, with no money, no visas and a homicidal korean mobster after them?
 
The only reason I think Jack could be the new MIB. The ONLY reason is because Claire told him "once you talk to him you are with him" and Jack did have a talk with him and Flocke told him "You're with me now".

Of course smokie could be lying to him.

Since MIB is a prisoner of sorts, I'm not sure why there needs to be a replacement for him. If he can't go anywhere and Jack takes over for Jacob, why would he be replaced? Just my thoughts.
 
Since MIB is a prisoner of sorts, I'm not sure why there needs to be a replacement for him. If he can't go anywhere and Jack takes over for Jacob, why would he be replaced? Just my thoughts.

Maybe there has to be an evil to balance out the good. The yin to the yang. The white rock to the black rock. If it's a metaphor for human nature, then there will always be an evil side being held back by the good side.
 
Maybe there has to be an evil to balance out the good. The yin to the yang. The white rock to the black rock. If it's a metaphor for human nature, then there will always be an evil side being held back by the good side.

Sure, but wouldn't MIB be that evil? Where do people think he is going? I mean if he could be killed, don't you think it would have already been done?
 
Sure, but wouldn't MIB be that evil? Where do people think he is going? I mean if he could be killed, don't you think it would have already been done?

He can be killed. All a person has to do is not talk to him EVER. Run up to him without him saying anything first and stab him.

That's been mentioned a few times on Lost.
 
Right after the Sun and Jin scene I told my wife that the 2004 (no plane crash) timeline would have to become the "real" one, because viewers will riot if the main characters don't end up in the "right" circumstances. That's what mscriv describes above.

Which means that Locke's father is going to get the short end of the stick. But maybe he could take the next fateful Oceanic flight and crash on an island that fixes him!

He can be killed. All a person has to do is not talk to him EVER. Run up to him without him saying anything first and stab him.

That's been mentioned a few times on Lost.
I thought they said that you have to kill Locke before he talks to you, which is harder than not talking to him. Am I mistaken?
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Right after the Sun and Jin scene I told my wife that the 2004 (no plane crash) timeline would have to become the "real" one, because viewers will riot if the main characters don't end up in the "right" circumstances. That's what mscriv describes above.
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I would love for them to end this show exactly the way they want to, ignoring what the viewers want. If they catered to what the viewers wanted, the show would have been 6 seasons of questions being answered immediately, with 30 minutes of Polar Bear filler in each episode. I want them to end it the way that makes sense to the story, and if that means everyone has to die or be unhappy in one or both of the timelines in order to send the message, then so be it!

Edit: OK, I would watch the Polar Bear version of LOST, but STILL...
 
Right after the Sun and Jin scene I told my wife that the 2004 (no plane crash) timeline would have to become the "real" one, because viewers will riot if the main characters don't end up in the "right" circumstances. That's what mscriv describes above.

Which means that Locke's father is going to get the short end of the stick. But maybe he could take the next fateful Oceanic flight and crash on an island that fixes him!


I thought they said that you have to kill Locke before he talks to you, which is harder than not talking to him. Am I mistaken?
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I was mixing what Claire said with the no talk Flocke scenario. Claire said once you talk to him or have a talk with him you are his.
That's why I said never talking to him.

In any case Flocke ( smokie ) can't leave the island. If he ( it ) does everyone is dead according to Hurley.
 
I thought they said that you have to kill Locke before he talks to you, which is harder than not talking to him. Am I mistaken?
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Didn't someone do this? Try to stab him...and this happened before he spoke? Didn't work.

It's all fuzzy now. It was earlier in the season. Was it Sawyer?
 
hehe.. I typed Sayid in first then edited it. LOL

In any case.
LOCKE'S MOTIVES ARE FINALLY EXPLAINED, ON ABC'S "LOST"


"Across the Sea" - The motives of John Locke are finally explained, on "Lost," TUESDAY,
MAY 11 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

"Lost" stars Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Ben, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Ken Leung as Miles, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Terry O'Quinn as Locke and Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana.

Guest starring are Mark Pellegrino as Jacob, Titus Welliver as man in black, Allison Janney as woman, Kenton Duty as teenage boy, Ryan Bradford as boy, Lela Loren as Claudia and Ivo Nandi as oldest hunter.

"Across the Sea" was written by Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof and directed by Tucker Gates.
 
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