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Didn't someone do this? Try to stab him...and this happened before he spoke? Didn't work.

It's all fuzzy now. It was earlier in the season. Was it Sawyer?

It was Sawyer but he let Lock speak first.

It was Sayid that tried to stab Flocke but Flocke had already spoken to Sayid. The stabbing did nothing and the look on Flocke's face was "why did you do that?"
 
If all it takes is not letting FLocke talk to you before you kill him, then how come none of Widmore's men, who were spraying FLocke with bullets from their machine guns, were able to kill him? FLocke didn't speak to any of them before they started shooting at him. The bullets went right through him.....


My only thought is that you have to use that knife that Dogan gave to Sayid in order to kill FLocke/MiB, AND you have to do it before FLocke/MiB speaks to you.

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I didn't think he spoke first. :/

From Lostpedia :

Later that day, he arrived at Claire's camp and met a shocked Jin. ("Lighthouse") He sent Claire into the Temple to convince Dogen to talk. Dogen, calling the Man in Black "evil incarnate," instead sent Sayid to kill him, warning him to stab him before he spoke. The Man in Black snuck up on Sayid and greeted him, and Sayid then stabbed him in vain.
 
My only thought is that you have to use that knife that Dogan gave to Sayid in order to kill FLocke/MiB, AND you have to do it before FLocke/MiB speaks to you.

That is correct. Remeber when Richard was given the same dagger by MiB to kill Jacob "before he speaks." But Richard got his a$$ kicked by Jacob on the beach before he was able to stab him.

I'm thinking that dagger is the only thing that can kill Jacob and MiB.
 
That is correct. Remeber when Richard was given the same dagger by MiB to kill Jacob "before he speaks." But Richard got his a$$ kicked by Jacob on the beach before he was able to stab him.

I'm thinking that dagger is the only thing that can kill Jacob and MiB.

Agreed.

I wonder if Jacob and MiB are familiar with knifey-spoony.....

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Yes...I remember where I was getting confused now. It was the Ricardo getting his arse kicked by Jacob before he spoke. ;)
 
Good series of articles about Lost in this week's Entertainment Weekly. The article about the last episode has not much in the way of spoilers so it's safe to read. It's a good prep though for some of the folks here. A lot of spiritualism in the ending. (Didn't someone say way upstream that they'd be mad if this was just good-vs.-evil; apparently it is.)

mt
 
Good series of articles about Lost in this week's Entertainment Weekly. The article about the last episode has not much in the way of spoilers so it's safe to read. It's a good prep though for some of the folks here. A lot of spiritualism in the ending. (Didn't someone say way upstream that they'd be mad if this was just good-vs.-evil; apparently it is.)

Saying that LOST is just about good and evil is like saying House is just about a bunch of attractive doctors.

Think about the ways they have demonstrated to us in the past 6 seasons how the struggle between good and evil is something that rages inside each of us every day. Think of the ways that LOST has made us think about tough decisions, and what horrible things we will do for our loved ones (Walt/Michael). Think about the themes of free will - the trait that makes humans unique, and the trait that allows humans to be evil or good (Ben letting his daughter die, Kate kills her abusive step-father, Charlie dies to save the rest of the survivors, etc). Is it evil for a human to make a terrible mistake if they try to redeem themselves? Wouldn't you kill for a chance to live your life over again, knowing your mistakes and misdeeds? Wouldn't you do anything to see your loved one again? Does that make you evil? These are the themes that LOST is presenting to you - it just boils down at the highest level to good vs. evil - but doesn't everything?

To say that LOST is just about good vs. evil is a dramatic understatement, and it means you missed the whole point of the show. LOST isn't about good vs. evil at that basic a level - it's about good vs. evil at a personal level, and how our decisions and actions tip your personal scale in one way or another.
 
Read the articles. I believe they make similar points. Pardon me if my quest for brevity made the matter too simplistic.

mt

No no, I'm not calling you out or anything, sorry if it seemed that way. I just feel passionately about this!

I approach LOST like a good novel - there are events and actions that happen to entertain, but it's all about something more, something that one can apply to the their life in a real way.
 
Saying that LOST is just about good and evil is like saying House is just about a bunch of attractive doctors.

Think about the ways they have demonstrated to us in the past 6 seasons how the struggle between good and evil is something that rages inside each of us every day. Think of the ways that LOST has made us think about tough decisions, and what horrible things we will do for our loved ones (Walt/Michael). Think about the themes of free will - the trait that makes humans unique, and the trait that allows humans to be evil or good (Ben letting his daughter die, Kate kills her abusive step-father, Charlie dies to save the rest of the survivors, etc). Is it evil for a human to make a terrible mistake if they try to redeem themselves? Wouldn't you kill for a chance to live your life over again, knowing your mistakes and misdeeds? Wouldn't you do anything to see your loved one again? Does that make you evil? These are the themes that LOST is presenting to you - it just boils down at the highest level to good vs. evil - but doesn't everything?

To say that LOST is just about good vs. evil is a dramatic understatement, and it means you missed the whole point of the show. LOST isn't about good vs. evil at that basic a level - it's about good vs. evil at a personal level, and how our decisions and actions tip your personal scale in one way or another.

Thank you barr08!! LOST is about good vs evil, but it is also about Destiny vs free will, not just that they represent oppisite sides but that they are two sides of the same coin. Everyone has a destiny, but your free will in choosing in specific situations directly affects whether or not that destiny is fullfilled.
To boil LOST down to just a good vs. evil plot is reductionism at its most idiotic. (no offense intended)
Also, to those who fear they will be dissapointed in the finale - it really isn't about the ending. LOST has given us 5 5/6 seasons worth of the best TV series ever. The journey has been incredible. And a finale that is devoid of fireworks or unseen twists or 'I didn't see that coming' is what should happen. The writers need to have a finale that is faithful to the story arc of each character - and it should be within what is expected of that character. If everyone dies - thats fine. If everyone lives - that's fine. But the ending for each character should be faithful to who they are in the story.
I for one am very satisfied with LOST and the direction it is heading and believe the writers will bring it to a great end. (but PLEASE don't answer every question. give us something to talk about for the next 10 years or so)
 
In the last episode, all of the remaining characters will end up in Los Angeles at the same time. They'll decide they are done with tragedy and heartache, so they go to Disneyland to celebreate. They'll take the raft ride over to Tom Sawyer Island but forget that the raft ride stops at dusk. The sun will go down and they'll all be trapped there! Fade to black.
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In the last episode, all of the remaining characters will end up in Los Angeles at the same time. They'll decide they are done with tragedy and heartache, so they go to Disneyland to celebreate. They'll take the raft ride over to Tom Sawyer Island but forget that the raft ride stops at dusk. The sun will go down and they'll all be trapped there! Fade to black.
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I don't think Metallica is appropriate to play for an ending to a series like LOST.
 
Here is the so-called "theme song" from the opening Lost title. Here is one of the "flashback starting" sounds.

Where can I hear the single-note sound you hear when something dramatic happens at the end of an episode? That might be even better than Metallica at the end of the last episode.
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I wonder who dies tonight? If the last episode was crazy, I expect nothing less with the last what? three episodes? I had a discussion with someone else who watches LOST as well and she thinks that the ending will be a disappoint because there is still too many questions.
 
I wonder who dies tonight? If the last episode was crazy, I expect nothing less with the last what? three episodes? I had a discussion with someone else who watches LOST as well and she thinks that the ending will be a disappoint because there is still too many questions.

Evageline Lilly told Letterman last night that some of the lesser questions will remain unanswered.

As for tonight's show "Across The Sea" we finally find out about Locke's motives.
 
Evageline Lilly told Letterman last night that some of the lesser questions will remain unanswered.
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To me, that was a given a few weeks ago. Too few episodes left and too many questions. Bastards.
 
To me, that was a given a few weeks ago. Too few episodes left and too many questions. Bastards.

The Entertainment Weekly article mentioned the possibility that there could be other Lost-alia out there after the series ends, including a movie. Maybe there are questions still to be answered.

Considering J.J. Abrams has handled time/dimensional travel in Star Trek and in Lost, I wonder if we can expect any parallels with Lost? I'm betting the FST and the "real" timeline somehow merge, which might mean FST Sun and Jin live to raise Ji Yeon. I'm also wondering if Hurley ends up as Jacob, I could see him using his "Jacob powers" to surround himself with Libby, Michael, Sun, Jin, you name it. And rewriting the rules, the way he wanted to rewrite The Empire Strikes Back.

mt
 
The Entertainment Weekly article mentioned the possibility that there could be other Lost-alia out there after the series ends, including a movie.
Sitcom spin-offs!

"The Sun and Jin Show" - hilarious adventures of a couple with annoying parents, their time-traveling precocious daughter Ji Yeon, Jin's hilarious adventures as a doorman and debt collector, and Sun's trouble when old boyfriend Jae Lee moves in next door.

Episode 1: "Mr. Linus the Landlord"
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All I got out of this episode was how the smoke monster came to life. It looks like the person I talked with is right. The ending will be a disappointment. Questions are not getting answered much. So help me, there better be a movie if they can't end the show well.
 
All I got out of this episode was how the smoke monster came to life. It looks like the person I talked with is right. The ending will be a disappointment. Questions are not getting answered much. So help me, there better be a movie if they can't end the show well.

+1

While I found the episode to be entertaining, I have to agree... what did we learn here? NOTHING. Why MIB and Jacob don't get along? What a joke. This isn't going to end well folks.
 
Well we did learn about the smoke monster, who the adam and eve was, who the original Others are, both jacob and MiB weren't born on the island, who protected the island before jacob, how jacob got the job, what jacob is protecting, who made the wheel, why MiB wants to leave, and probably some other stuff that I am missing right now. They are answering questions but also opening up new ones which is why I love this series so much.
 
I was very satisfied by the episode ... Although now I want to know more about the mother. And poor MiB never gets a name? That's pretty twisted.

What language were they speaking as the episode started? If it's Latin, that might explain earlier fascination with the language, though I got the sense these aborigin-others predated the Egyptians who built the Tawaret statue. My history's a bit sketchy, but Latin would come some time after the Egyptians, right?

I thought Jacob sounded almost Linus-esque when the complained his mother loved the other one more. (Did anyone else flash on the Smothers Brothers, right then?) And the destruction of the village seemed reminiscent of the destruction of the temple.

Have we seen any other instance before where the island had such a dramatic magnetic effect? On the surface? I can't recall one and I wonder if that means the island is winding down.

And is the kid that pops in from time to time young Jacob?

mt
 
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