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Lost TV show (Season 6) -- includes spoilers on show nights

obeygiant said:
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I want to go to this!
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Haha I saw this on Digg. Very nicely done, but they spelled 'Australia' wrong. :rolleyes:
 
barr08 said:
I believe that it's the act of drinking from the cup that Jacob filled that signifies the exchange of power. I don't think the contents of the cup have any significance. He is choosing to take over by choosing to drink out of the cup - it's about the action.
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Remember the water inside the temple was used to bring folks back from the dead.
 
Peace said:
We really can't say that with certainty I don't think.
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Can't say what? That they don't all have powers like Jacob due to drinking the water? No, I suppose we can't say that for sure, but it's highly unlikely. I think anyone with any sort of powers has already been revealed to the audience.

If just drinking the water gave you Jacob powers, then everyone would be able to see the Source, but no one besides Jacob can (not even Jack, before he drank the water).
 
barr08 said:
Can't say what? That they don't all have powers like Jacob due to drinking the water? No, I suppose we can't say that for sure, but it's highly unlikely. I think anyone with any sort of powers has already been revealed to the audience.

If just drinking the water gave you Jacob powers, then everyone would be able to see the Source, but no one besides Jacob can (not even Jack, before he drank the water).
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Everyone is able to see the source. They just didn't know where it was. Jacob and MIB's Fmother showed them the source before either one of them drank anything out of any "cup" or incantation and they saw it.
 
Peace said:
Everyone is able to see the source. They just didn't know where it was. Jacob and MIB's Fmother showed them the source before either one of them drank anything out of any "cup" or incantation and they saw it.
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Jacob tells Jack where the Source is (right by the bamboo field where he first woke up on the Island). Jack says there is nothing out there, as he is very familiar with that area. Jacob says you can't see it...yet.

From Lostpedia:
Jacob tells Jack where to find the light at the heart of the Island, explaining that while Jack has never seen the light before, he will be able to find it now that he has been chosen to protect it.
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Perhaps Fmother was able to show the Source to MiB and Jacob because the protector is able to reveal it to someone, but one can't find it on their own.
 
barr08 said:
Jacob tells Jack where the Source is (right by the bamboo field where he first woke up on the Island). Jack says there is nothing out there, as he is very familiar with that area. Jacob says you can't see it...yet.

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Perhaps Fmother was able to show the Source to MiB and Jacob because the protector is able to reveal it to them, but one can't find it on their own.
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Then there's this from Lostpedia :

The boys chase a boar, but are surprised when it is killed by three hunters. The twins run home and demand an explanation from Mother. She says that these men are not like them because "we are here for a reason." The Boy in Black insists on knowing what the reason is. Mother blindfolds the boys and leads them into the jungle. She tells them that the other people are dangerous because they come, they fight, they destroy, they corrupt and it always ends the same. She tells the boys that she has made it so they can never hurt each other. Mother removes their blindfolds and they turn and see a cave with a stream running into it; the cave emits a glowing golden light. She tells them that it is the reason they are on the island. She tells them they must never enter the cave. The Boy in Black says that it is beautiful, she agrees and tells them that a little bit of the same light that is in the cave is inside every man but that people always want more. Mother says that while the other people can't take the light, they might try and if the light goes out here it goes out everywhere. Mother has protected the place but when she no longer can then it will have to be one of the twins who protects it.



That implies it can be found. If you can't see something why is there a need to protect it ?
 
Peace said:
Then there's this from Lostpedia :

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That implies it can be found. If you can't see something why is there a need to protect it?
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It can be found, but maybe not directly. If I remember correctly, MiB and his people dig the wells to try to access this power, which he saw as a child but could never find again, because they cannot simply walk up to the Source.

But really, you and I are just speculating on an ultimately unimportant detail.
 
barr08 said:
It can be found, but maybe not directly. If I remember correctly, MiB and his people dig the wells to try to access this power (which resides under the Island) because they cannot simply walk up to the Source.

But really, you and I are just speculating on an ultimately unimportant detail.
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So true! We will know Sunday..:p
 
Not sure how Desmond in the alternate reality is fitting into this, but I am stoked about sunday.
 
As the plot becomes clearer, the whole time-bending aspect of the story is really giving me a headache.

MiB "found" his loophole, which involves the Dharma Initiative (or at least Ben) and Flight 815, which Jacob indirectly brought to the island.

Jacob must know the loophole is coming because over the decades before, he visits Kate, Sawyer and others. He has them in place for when the loophole takes effect. And yet, he knows all this is going to happen but he doesn't spend one minute with Benjamin Linus. Had he done that, Linus would never have been twisted by Fake Locke's plan.

Which all seems to contradict the notion that Jacob wants to protect the island. He might want to pass the torch to a new protector, but the four final candidates all have the free will to turn him down. So if he really wanted to protect the island, wouldn't the more logical course have been to thwart his brother's attempts to turn Linus?

mt
 
mysterytramp said:
As the plot becomes clearer, the whole time-bending aspect of the story is really giving me a headache.

MiB "found" his loophole, which involves the Dharma Initiative (or at least Ben) and Flight 815, which Jacob indirectly brought to the island.

Jacob must know the loophole is coming because over the decades before, he visits Kate, Sawyer and others. He has them in place for when the loophole takes effect. And yet, he knows all this is going to happen but he doesn't spend one minute with Benjamin Linus. Had he done that, Linus would never have been twisted by Fake Locke's plan.

Which all seems to contradict the notion that Jacob wants to protect the island. He might want to pass the torch to a new protector, but the four final candidates all have the free will to turn him down. So if he really wanted to protect the island, wouldn't the more logical course have been to thwart his brother's attempts to turn Linus?

mt
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Just a guess but I think Jacob is tired like his fake mother and doesn't care anymore. He seemed really down about causing the death of his brother.

Maybe he just wants to end it all.
 
mysterytramp said:
As the plot becomes clearer, the whole time-bending aspect of the story is really giving me a headache.

MiB "found" his loophole, which involves the Dharma Initiative (or at least Ben) and Flight 815, which Jacob indirectly brought to the island.

Jacob must know the loophole is coming because over the decades before, he visits Kate, Sawyer and others. He has them in place for when the loophole takes effect. And yet, he knows all this is going to happen but he doesn't spend one minute with Benjamin Linus. Had he done that, Linus would never have been twisted by Fake Locke's plan.

Which all seems to contradict the notion that Jacob wants to protect the island. He might want to pass the torch to a new protector, but the four final candidates all have the free will to turn him down. So if he really wanted to protect the island, wouldn't the more logical course have been to thwart his brother's attempts to turn Linus?

mt
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Interesting. It seems to me like he has always known a loophole was coming, and after the death of Ben's daughter, I bet he knew exactly what it was going to be. He allowed it to happen because the candidates were almost ready to realize their destiny, and he was ready to die (like his FMom). If this had happened a few years earlier, I imagine he would have been more careful.

Peace said:
Just a guess but I think Jacob is tired like his fake mother and doesn't care anymore. He seemed really down about causing the death of his brother.

Maybe he just wants to end it all.
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This.
 
mysterytramp said:
As the plot becomes clearer, the whole time-bending aspect of the story is really giving me a headache.

MiB "found" his loophole, which involves the Dharma Initiative (or at least Ben) and Flight 815, which Jacob indirectly brought to the island.

Jacob must know the loophole is coming because over the decades before, he visits Kate, Sawyer and others. He has them in place for when the loophole takes effect. And yet, he knows all this is going to happen but he doesn't spend one minute with Benjamin Linus. Had he done that, Linus would never have been twisted by Fake Locke's plan.

Which all seems to contradict the notion that Jacob wants to protect the island. He might want to pass the torch to a new protector, but the four final candidates all have the free will to turn him down. So if he really wanted to protect the island, wouldn't the more logical course have been to thwart his brother's attempts to turn Linus?

mt
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He might have been able to stop Ben Linus, but I don't think that would have completely closed the loophole. The loophole itself was that FLocke convinced someone else to kill Jacob, and Ben just happened to be the most convenient.

With this in mind, and with the status of the candidates at the time, I think it made the most sense for Jacob to just let it happen like it did.
 
A nice little blog post from Jorge Garcia

From Variety

At 5 a.m. on April 24, I became unemployed.

I just wrapped my six-season run on "Lost." The job that went above and beyond anything I could have imagined was over.

When I auditioned for "Lost," I was just another out-of-work actor struggling to land a pilot. When I first went in to meet the producers, there wasn't any material for me, except a few sides they had for the character Sawyer.

I felt great about the audition; so great, in fact, that getting the part wasn't important because I knew I couldn't have done any better. Then I got the call that I was going to test, and that they were going to write scenes specifically for me. I remember noticing I was the only Hurley in the room waiting to test. I called my agent from the parking lot afterward and said, "I don't know what it meant but it felt like a good thing."

When I got hired I hadn't even seen the pilot script. All I knew was that it was a J.J. Abrams show and that it would shoot in Hawaii. I figured, if anything, I had just scored an extended Hawaiian vacation.

Moving to Hawaii was a dream come true. When I worked the magazine stand at Borders in Westwood, I remember seeing a picture of Kelsey Grammer in his Hawaiian home on the cover of Architectural Digest and thinking that having a home in Hawaii was a good benchmark for success. Not two months in my new apartment in L.A., I was trying to figure out what to pack for a show that I had no idea how long would last. Now six years later, I walk around my house trying to figure out what to pack from all of the stuff I have amassed in Hawaii over the show's run.

During the pilot and the first summer of shooting we bonded quickly as a cast. After all, not unlike the show's premise, we literally found ourselves on an island with one another. We'd go to each other's houses on the weekends and nights when we weren't shooting. When the shows started airing, we would usually gather at the house of whomever the show was going to feature that week to watch and congratulate each other.

We had no information about what was going on beyond what we read in the script each week. We knew we were making TV that was not like anything seen before and crossed our fingers hoping we would find an audience who liked what we were doing.

The series premiere brought in better numbers than we anticipated and I remember saying to the other actors the next day, "I hope you like it in Hawaii because we may be here for a while."

As the seasons progressed, moments of being recognized on the street grew exponentially. There was a time during season one when all I had to do was tie my hair back to become invisible. Obviously, that does nothing for me now; neither does wearing a hat and sunglasses. At times both Daniel Dae Kim and Terry O'Quinn remarked how they enjoyed disappearing when they were around me as I would be the only one getting recognized.

Hawaii has been a wonderful place to hide for six years. Sometimes I could almost convince myself that "Lost" was a just a little show I did with friends in the jungle. I always liked to think of us as the tinkers in "A Midsummer Night's Dream" until something would shake that fantasy and I'd be forced to recognize how huge the show was becoming, like getting nominated for a Golden Globe. J.J., always the consummate mensch, wanted my experience to be enjoyable and easy at the awards, so he gifted me my first custom-tailored tuxedo.

I think the time spent under the cast tent on set will be what I'll miss the most. We sang songs to Terry and Naveen's guitar playing, made valiant group efforts to complete a Friday edition of the New York Times crossword puzzle and played a lot of Scrabble.

My last day on "Lost" was also my longest: 20 hours. Without going into details, I can say the shoot was dangerous, physical and wet. But what could be more appropriate? How else could we end this epic show without an epic marathon night of shooting? At the end of it all we all remarked how we expected the end to be more emotional for us, but we were too tired to cry.

I'll admit I got a little teary with Matthew Fox. I thanked him for everything he taught me, including taking me on his trip to Japan to see Green Day that first summer of shooting. At the time, flying at the last minute to a foreign country was way out of my comfort zone, but then again nothing on "Lost" was ever in my comfort zone.

I stuck around after even after I wrapped to see the martini shot of the entire show. I could feel director Jack Bender's resistance to call "print" on that last take. In fact I'm pretty sure he asked for one more take to delay the inevitable.

I still don't think the end of it all has hit me yet. Maybe I'll feel it when the finale finally airs Sunday. Or maybe it will hit me when I board the plane at Honolulu Airport for the last time as a Hawaiian resident.

I have no clue what my next adventure is going to be, I just know this job is going to be a hard one to follow.
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Jorge Garcia is as nice a guy as Hurley. What a coincidence! It'll be fun to see each of the Lost actors popping up elsewhere in their ongoing acting careers.

Watching the last regular show I couldn't help thinking back to the reports that Matthew Fox wasn't intended to play a major character or even one that survived. Yet he's now (apparently) the "self-chosen one".

I'm looking forward to what I hope will be a full confession from the writers about what they knew about the overall plot and outcome from the beginning of the show and what they made up as they went along.

Now I'm off to the convenience store to get a lottery ticket and bet on 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42!
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4 8 15 16 23 42
 
The enhanced Pilot parts 1 and 2 are on Saturday. The Series finale is on Sunday.

There is a Lost special on before the series finale Sunday.

Schedule :

Saturday May 22nd--LOST Series Premier part 1 and 2 enhanced version 8PM-10PM EST
Sunday May 23rd--LOST A Retrospective 7PM-9PM EST
Sunday May 23rd--LOST The End 9PM-11:35PM EST


Make popcorn in advance. Have drinks ready. Please turn off all cell phones.
Thank You and enjoy The End of LOST.

Oh.. I'm on the west coast. If I see ANY reference to the final ANYWHERE on Macrumors BEFORE we left coast people have had a chance to see it YOU might become LOST.:p
 
Ill see if i can *acquire* that episode later tonight if ABC doesnt put it up on their site.

If i were you i'd avoid all contact with the outside world starting at 4pm. Luckily, im on the east coast so i get to watch it right away :D.
 
It's going to be so weird watching the episode and after its over thinking "that's it..."

I'm so used to thinning about next weeks episode or next season, but this is it folks. It's such a strange feeling.

But rewatching this entire series is going to be so much fun, i can't wait to see all the little hints and clues they threw in there for us.
ETA: and all the crap they didn't answer :p
 
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