Lost TV show (Season 6) -- includes spoilers on show nights

[calderone]

As for Desmond, I heard a theory (not my own, I wish I had thought of this) that his final purpose will be to drag MiB back into the Source, as this is probably the only way to kill him. Desmond is the only person that can do this (without dying, without becoming the new smoke monster), due to his resistance to electromagnetism. This is why he is the failsafe.

Failsafe if all the candidates die right? Since, I think Jack could now do it to and he can't be killed by MiB just as Jacob could not. If Ben kills them all (is this possible?) then Desmond would have to do it I guess!

Since Jack is like Jacob now and is indeed the island protector does he have the ability to "touch" someone like Jacob did ?

I would think so! And with MiB gone he could come and go as he pleases without worrying about the island (as much).

I don't think that Richard is dead. I think that if he were dead, they would have shown his dead body after Smokie grabbed him. I still think that an alive-Richard will play a part in the final episode.


I think that the reason Locke was able to walk after the original Oceanic 815 crash is because Jack fixed him in the alternative timeline. I don't know why or how fixed Locke's body ends up on the Island after the crash, but I think there's something to it. As I remember it, Locke seemed to have some sort of inherent knowledge about the Island just after the crash. He seemed to just know stuff that he shouldn't have known. Maybe this has something to do with it.

I agree about Richard.

Could it be that Locke was supposed to be "the one" but that changed when MiB intervened? Could explain that knowledge he had, which Jack later seemed to have when things fell apart with Locke.

 

[tigres]

One thing I would place my bet on.

It opened with Jack on the first episode; and it will close with Jack on the last.

who's with me... ....can I get an amen!!!!

 

[Peace]

I would think so! And with MiB gone he could come and go as he pleases without worrying about the island (as much).

This bring about a quandary then. If in the current timeline now Jack has "the touch" and can come and go as he pleases like Jacob what's to keep him from going off island temporarily to "fix" people ?

Jacob was in the flash forward timeline. Why can't Jack be there too.Now I mean.

Perhaps he just hasn't got around to it yet.

 

[mstrze]

This bring about a quandary then. If in the current timeline now Jack has "the touch" and can come and go as he pleases like Jacob what's to keep him from going off island temporarily to "fix" people ?

Jacob was in the flash forward timeline. Why can't Jack be there too.Now I mean.

Perhaps he just hasn't got around to it yet.

What good would going off-island do right now when all the action is happening there? And who of importance would he visit? Eloise? Penny? Walt? Aaron? Lil Kwon? Everyone else is on the island and it's critical that they do something right now on the island to protect it from the MIB.

Can't travel backwards in time (to 2004) to the alternate timeline...unless that's some new rule that they toss out there this Sunday.

Travelling off-island, while most assuredly a power/ability that Jack now has...would be meaningless in this current finale in my opinion....unless Walt is an 11th hour key to the whole shebang...although nothing at all has indicated this. Walt is the only mystical piece of the puzzle that has seemingly fallen by the wayside.

 

[xlii]

I'd imagine by flooding it.

I hope we find out at some point what Widmore had in store for the island. I actually don't know what to think about it, that was a rollercoaster of an episode!

I guess Widmore will never get a flashback episode. Shame the way they killed him off... like a throw-a-way.

 

[killerrobot]

Good episode. I don't think Widmore has any more importance at this point since, so if he's dead or not I don't think it will matter. He got Desmond to the island and that's all that was important.

I'm trying to lower my expectations from a finale that blows my mind towards something that just ties up the loose ends. I hope I'll enjoy it more that way.

 

[xlii]

You LIKED that part? Didn't it seem like a major let down to you... like there was someone destined to take Jacob's place, and that candidates were being crossed off one by one when he knew they weren't 'the one', and now it's just a job that anyone can do... how convenient. It just seems too easy, less special, less important. I thought it was a major let down and kind of cheesy.

Not on the list... In the early seasons of lost when Ben asked for lists of the passengers on the plane. The implied importance or peril of being or not being on the list. Will we ever know why this list was so important to Ben?

 

[Peace]

Well thankfully we only have 4 days to wait for the answers we hope to get.

HA!

 

[barr08]

I think that the reason Locke was able to walk after the original Oceanic 815 crash is because Jack fixed him in the alternative timeline. I don't know why or how fixed Locke's body ends up on the Island after the crash, but I think there's something to it. As I remember it, Locke seemed to have some sort of inherent knowledge about the Island just after the crash. He seemed to just know stuff that he shouldn't have known. Maybe this has something to do with it.

This is really interesting. Also note that Rose doesn't seem to have cancer in the FST (unless I am forgetting something). Perhaps them being healed upon arrival is more than just Jacob's magical power?

 

[Surely]

This is really interesting. Also note that Rose doesn't seem to have cancer in the FST (unless I am forgetting something). Perhaps them being healed upon arrival is more than just Jacob's magical power?

I believe Rose does have cancer in the alternative timeline. She told Locke that she has cancer when he was complaining and demanding the construction job, and she suggested the teaching job instead.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Okay, that was the flashback, wasn't it? The alternate timeline is different (or I'm totally friggin' confused).

No, that was the alternate time line. That is how Locke got the job as a substitute at Ben's school.

 

[gibbz]

What's up with Jack's neck bleeding in the FST? It also happened in the season premier on the flight.

 

[Surely]

What's up with Jack's neck bleeding in the FST? It also happened in the season premier on the flight.

If you die in the Matrix, you die here.....

 

[rdowns]

I got a meeting request for Monday at 7:30 am. Replied, are you ****ing kidding me? I'm watching Lost Sunday night and coming in late on Monday.

 

[Zombie Acorn]

I think that the reason Locke was able to walk after the original Oceanic 815 crash is because Jack fixed him in the alternative timeline. I don't know why or how fixed Locke's body ends up on the Island after the crash, but I think there's something to it. As I remember it, Locke seemed to have some sort of inherent knowledge about the Island just after the crash. He seemed to just know stuff that he shouldn't have known. Maybe this has something to do with it.

This is the first thing that came to my mind when Jack and Locke met at the airport and Jack gave him a card. I still have no idea how they would pull it off.

 

[mysterytramp]

I do not believe Widmore is dead. ... Now, Ben just wants to get what's coming to him - justice

I think you're absolutely right here. The one thing I found disappointing about the episode was Ben, who has been on a multiple-episode path to redemption, suddenly turns evil. That's not fitting in with the Lost writing I'd expect, so I think there's an ulterior motive.

I think that the reason Locke was able to walk after the original Oceanic 815 crash is because Jack fixed him in the alternative timeline. ...

This makes a lot of sense, too. If for no other reason that it fits into J.J. Abrams' MO on Star Trek and Fringe. But it does seem to toss away the whole notion that the island is special. And how do you fit this into Rose's disappearing cancer?

So I'm a little let down that Jack appears to be the new Jacob. He's been the "leader" character since the beginning. Why go through six seasons when this was the plan all along? Doesn't anyone think that somehow Jack loses the Jacob powers and they get passed to someone else? My guess is Hurley, if only because he gets the line, "I'm glad it's not me."

mt

 

[0098386]

I think you're absolutely right here. The one thing I found disappointing about the episode was Ben, who has been on a multiple-episode path to redemption, suddenly turns evil. That's not fitting in with the Lost writing I'd expect, so I think there's an ulterior motive.

Widmore with a bulletproof vest on? After all he wasn't shot in the head and we all know Lost... if they're not buried they're probably alive! Which is why I still think Richard is alive somewhere too. Maybe.

I think there are healing properties to the island. Maybe it's exposure to the island's light that causes it? Locke got shot, Sayid came back from the dead, Rose had terminal cancer.

So I'm a little let down that Jack appears to be the new Jacob. He's been the "leader" character since the beginning. Why go through six seasons when this was the plan all along? Doesn't anyone think that somehow Jack loses the Jacob powers and they get passed to someone else? My guess is Hurley, if only because he gets the line, "I'm glad it's not me."

I thought that whole inauguration scene was a bit uneventful. It was almost forgettable "Drink this water, and you're done!". That doesn't seem very Lost-ish where everything else is done in such grandeur and mystery. I don't think he is like Jacob just yet. I think the one who runs the place will be the sole survivor, which I'm guessing will be Desmond.

 

[Peace]

The Producers enlighten us on the two timelines :

Is there a relationship between Island reality and sideways reality? Will they run parallel for the remainder of the season? Will they fuse together? Might one fade away?
LINDELOF: For us, the big risk that we’re taking in the final season of the show is basically this very question. [Lindelof then explains the show has replaced the trademark “whoosh!” sound effect marking the segue between Island present story and flashbacks or flash-forwards, thus calling conspicuous attention to the relationship between the Island world and the Sideways world.] This is the critical mystery of the season, which is, “What is the relationship between these two shows?” And we don’t use the phrase “alternate reality,” because to call one of them an “alternate reality” is to infer that one of them isn’t real, or one of them is real and the other is the alternate to being real.
CUSE: But the questions you’re asking are exactly the right questions. What are we to make of the fact that they’re showing us two different timelines? Are they going to resolve? Are they going to connect? Are they going to co-exist in parallel fashion? Are they going to cross? Do they intersect? Does one prove to be viable and the other one not? I think those are all the kind of speculations that are the right speculations to be having at this point in the season.
LINDELOF: But it is going to require patience. We’ve taught the audience how to be patient thus far, so while they’re getting a lot of mythological answers on the island early in the season, this idea of what is the relationship between the two [worlds] is a little bit more of a slow burn.

 

[Lyle]

It is going to require patience... this idea of what is the relationship between the two [worlds] is a little bit more of a slow burn.

I guess they have about one more episode left in which to answer these questions. Or not.

 

[Tilpots]

Jacob drank the liquid out of the wine bottle to receive his power, right? And recently, Jacob did have the wine bottle, right? So why was Jack just given water in a tin cup? What am I missing, or is Jack not the One?

 

[Peace]

Jacob drank the liquid out of the wine bottle to receive his power, right? And recently, Jacob did have the wine bottle, right? So why was Jack just given water in a tin cup? What am I missing, or is Jack not the One?

Jacob gave the wine bottle to the MIB and he in turn smashed it. It's the water that holds the "magic". I'm guessing he and his FMother made wine on the island which had some of the islands water in it.

 

[Tilpots]

Jacob gave the wine bottle to the MIB and he in turn smashed it. It's the water that holds the "magic". I'm guessing he and his FMother made wine on the island which had some of the islands water in it.

Ah-ha. Thanks.

 

[barr08]

Jacob drank the liquid out of the wine bottle to receive his power, right? And recently, Jacob did have the wine bottle, right? So why was Jack just given water in a tin cup? What am I missing, or is Jack not the One?

Jacob gave the wine bottle to the MIB and he in turn smashed it. It's the water that holds the "magic". I'm guessing he and his FMother made wine on the island which had some of the islands water in it.

I believe that it's the act of drinking from the cup that Jacob filled that signifies the exchange of power. I don't think the contents of the cup have any significance. He is choosing to take over by choosing to drink out of the cup - it's about the action.

 

[Surely]

I believe that it's the act of drinking from the cup that Jacob filled that signifies the exchange of power. I don't think the contents of the cup have any significance. He is choosing to take over by choosing to drink out of the cup - it's about the action.

I agree with this. I think it's about the ceremony.

Perhaps the drink has to consist of something from the Island.

 

[obeygiant]

I want to go to this!