Michael did kill a couple people after all. And you never know what happened after they got off the island. Maybe one of the survivors did something terrible. Who knows?
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Michael did kill a couple people after all. And you never know what happened after they got off the island. Maybe one of the survivors did something terrible. Who knows?
The coffin looked very small to me so my first instinct was Ben but later thinking reinforces it in my head.
i agree, didn't seem to reveal much. just the oceanic 6: so we think there are only six survivors (just the 815 survivors? no 'others'?). the camp split into two: jack v. locke. from hurley's flash forward of the charlie illusion we know /get confirmation that something bad is to happen and hurley is supposed to save or help save the survivors.
I think Hurley said that he did not know Ana Lucia, but if I recall correctly Hurley did know/see/talk to her. So maybe he 1. imagined her or 2. really didn't remember her due to stress or other factors.
good point for Ben being in that coffin.
so what made jack go from tonight's clean shaven deal to jack from the season 3 finale (both in flash forwards)? guess another reason to keep on watching...
I felt like it was pretty clear that Hurley was just lying. Of course he knew Ana Lucia because she got shot with Libby. I'm sure he would not forget a single moment of that night.
The only thing better than an unanswered question is an answer that uncovers more questions ...and that's exactly what Lost provides.
I didn't think this episode was a tease. In some episodes last season, I felt like they were purposely stalling, but this one, with the flash-forwards, seemed to move along. And we've now encountered the helicopter "rescuer."
When Charlie admitted he was dead to Hurley, but said he was "here," I thought Hurley would conclude that he too must therefore be dead. But I guess Hurley isn't known for his deductive reasoning. Dude!
And now my big theory for the week: Jacob from Lost is actually Management from Carnivàle. (Perhaps somebody here watched that show too and will appreciate the analogy.)
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When Charlie admitted he was dead to Hurley, but said he was "here," I thought Hurley would conclude that he too must therefore be dead. But I guess Hurley isn't known for his deductive reasoning. Dude!
And now my big theory for the week: Jacob from Lost is actually Management from Carnivàle. (Perhaps somebody here watched that show too and will appreciate the analogy.)
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I just figured that the more in-tune you are with the island the faster your decline after leaving. Jack got his life together fine after being "rescued" but as the hold on the island worked it's mojo, he started drinking, growing a beard and having his life fall apart. Hurley was more in tune with the island and therefore declined more rapidly.
That doesn't rule out anyone since we don't know what happened after they got back from the island. How do we know that she and Hurley didn't have a huge falling out because Hurley was trying to convince everyone to go back to the island?
Maybe the "Oceanic 6" made a deal upon their "rescue" to stick to a story of "we are the only survivors" to prevent people from searching for the island and trying to rescue anyone who decided to stay. By denying he knew someone else on the flight helps validate the story.
That could be... only seen by those he wants to see him, quietly directing the operation of the island from behind the scenes, manipulating things using a select few... sounds about right... maybe that's why they had to cancel Carnivàle.
Anyone else think that the boat may be the Dharma initiative trying to re-inhabit the island? In the time from when Ben got there until the Dharma people were wiped out they established the hatches and maybe the hatch with the numbers was and experiment that cloaked the island making them unable to find it once they lost control. Of course that wouldn't explain the food drops...
What's up with iTunes. No season passes on new shows? Is this because of the writer's stike? They don't know how long a season is actually going to be?
Heartily agreed. They are spending far too much effort on trying to keep the audience confused and guessing rather than building a solid, well played out story.
You know what might actually make more sense is to splice together every individual character's scenes and watch it through as Lost: The Jack Story, Lost: The Kate Story, etc. and things might be more clear.
You know what might actually make more sense is to splice together every individual character's scenes and watch it through as Lost: The Jack Story, Lost: The Kate Story, etc. and things might be more clear.
I was thinking this too, we already know Locke doesn't want to leave the island, and Bernard and Rose are in the same frame of mind too. (Kate's desire to leave is a mystery considering she'd most likely go to jail after being rescued.) I kind of got the notion that the "Oceanic 6" were only the people left after Jack and Hurley's conversation... what are they keeping secret? .. not that I'm expecting an answer on that one anytime soon!
Maybe they'll do that when the show is over, as a clever way to sell the content to us over and over, packaged different ways.
They could even sell a version of the entire series in chronological order, so the flashbacks would all come first, then their time on the island, then the flashfoward scenes. They'll be squeezing the last drops out of this content for years to come!
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I wasn't too impressed. Much too slow paced to say they're at 16 episodes per series now. It seemed like they threw too much into the "oceanic 6", building up these lame little things to get us wondering about. It's no hatch for sure.
I lost the faith with the flash forwards. I'll only be watching this as it's tradition now.
I lost the faith with the flash forwards. I'll only be watching this as it's tradition now.
i think the oceanic six that got rescued (jack, hurley, kate, and i am guessing sawyers, sayid, jin + sun) concocted (or had to accept a deal to) a story by which there is no island, and therefore no additional survivors, others or dharma organization.
therefore hurley cannot admit he knows Ana Lucia.
the story will go on across multiple storylines.
how the 6 got rescued/separated by the rest o the survivors (current island storyline)
how the 6 do in the future (in the outside world)
how the rest do in the future (on the island)
eventually they'll go back for the last 'rescue' season
therefore hurley cannot admit he knows Ana Lucia.
the story will go on across multiple storylines.
how the 6 got rescued/separated by the rest o the survivors (current island storyline)
how the 6 do in the future (in the outside world)
how the rest do in the future (on the island)
eventually they'll go back for the last 'rescue' season
oceanic six so at least jack, hurley, kate. and possibly three of the other four?
another storyline is who exactly are the six. they might milk who the other three are for a while.
Any thoughts about why there is a skyline in the reflection of the Lost logo?
Could it be a simple as that the story line goes back and forth between the island and the mainland where the survivors are rescued to?
Could it be a simple as that the story line goes back and forth between the island and the mainland where the survivors are rescued to?
Yeah I felt that way about the Nikki and Paolo episodes, and the one where Hurley finds Roger Linus' car. I understand why those episodes were there, but I just remember being frustrated that we didn't learn more.
I think you're right. I think it is just showing the fact that Lost is showing basically two complete storylines at once - the island storyline and the flashforward storyline.
I watched the episode again and I noticed that Jacob looks a lot like Jack's dad! Did anyone else notice this too?!
Yeah, I noticed it! I'm almost certain that it is him indeed!
And the popping face on the windows definitely looks like "drug-addicted" charlie!
My opinion is that a main character will die in this season, hence Hurley saying he's sorry for not staying behind to help Jack and go with Locke instead. IMO only 6 people leave the island, and they swear to not tell anyone where they were or talk about anything that happened during that time to protect it and those who stayed behind.
I do feel the show is still giving us more questions than answers but c'mon, they said that they had a great ending written! However, if they f*** it up they'll ruin the show for everyone, it would be tainted forever! Everyone is waiting for an explanation, black smoke insightful killing machine? WTF?
Ben is a mass murderer. There is no way he could avoid being brought to justice. Both the logic of the Lost universe and the Hollywood need for moral closure demand it.
My bet is that the guy in the box is Locke (who by definition would be one of the Six). Forced to leave the island (for some reason we will learn next season), and seen by his fellows as a turncoat, he would grow increasingly embittered, reclusive, and alone. Only Locke would really fit the ambiguous feelings shown by Jack. Jack would never end up thinking the monstrous Ben was right, but he certainly could come around to realizing Locke was right in his feelings for the island.
Humm, nice suggestion, I'll double check when I get home
Yeah, Sawyer, even Sahid! But I definitely think that one of the main characters will die this season.
Anyway, I noticed that a lot of fans are complaining about the path that this show has been leading since the end of Season 2 but, I still think it's the most original TV Show out there. In the age of "Crime Investigation" clones, something like Lost (Heroes, etc...) is very welcome, at least they're trying something different!
Just one more thing, I've heard that due to the writers strike Lost S4 will only have 8 episodes. Is that true? can someone confirm or deny?
Fan sites have confirmed both of these.
Yes it was Locke who peeked out the window and yes it was Jacks dad in Jacobs chair. Weird...
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