They really do jerk you around alot lately... Almost like an open joke.
I'll tell you everything you want to know... But nobody asks... I feel like smacking Locke myself!
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They really do jerk you around alot lately... Almost like an open joke.
I'll tell you everything you want to know... But nobody asks... I feel like smacking Locke myself!
Juliette is easily my least favorite character (and actress) on the show. Last night's episode was like an hour of fingernails on a chalkboard. And it looks like she's featured prominently in next week's episode. Blech.
Getting a lot of extra stories now, and some a very cool... i.e. Desmond's time "travelling".
But, in many ways the big story is not going forward at all.... I've had it with Kate-stuff. Jack willing to lie for Kate in court etc....
What was interesting was that Ben was going to tell Locke who was his man on the boat, and advised Locke to get a chair when he was told...
Too bad we didn't find yet out who Ben meant.
Sayid? I believe he was working for him later on, but at that moment already?
But, in many ways the big story is not going forward at all.... I've had it with Kate-stuff. Jack willing to lie for Kate in court etc....
What was interesting was that Ben was going to tell Locke who was his man on the boat, and advised Locke to get a chair when he was told...
Too bad we didn't find yet out who Ben meant.
Sayid? I believe he was working for him later on, but at that moment already?
Its Michael. Has to be and all signs point to it, not least of which were the shows creators announcing before the start of the season that Michael had signed up for season 4....
I'm pleased that my instinct was right on this - even if Mr. Widmore isn't the captain on board, the ship belongs to him. So I renew my second thought that Michael is the captain and "took over" after they picked him up.
One thing that's been bugging me...
The guy going crazy on the ship (from the time displacement issue) was able to recount the events leading up to his "condition" while Desmond couldn't recall anything between the present and his "flashback" memories. I know it's futile to pick apart these sorts of things, but it feels inconsistent to me.
Ben is getting creepier with the "you're mine!" thing.
So how many more new episodes are there...?
And will the ones that had their shooting suspended air anytime soon?
And will the ones that had their shooting suspended air anytime soon?
They had eight episodes prior to the strike. They are going to show the first seven, take four weeks off, then show five more episodes (the eighth and four new post-strike episodes). I don't know if tonights episode is six or seven so we have one or two more episodes.
I believe this is the 7th episode of the season.
Great, I thought the month long breaks were a thing of the past.
Thanks a lot, writer's strike.
Wait what?
Jin death date on his tombstone was 9/22/2004. Isn't that the date of the crash? I guess he's not part of the oceanic six.
My guess is Michael is the 6th member of the Oceanic Six.
Jin must have died on the island, or during the escape.
The Michael thing has been speculated to no end.
The Jin thing was kind of a shock.
I was more shocked with him being told about the affair, though.
I don't think he is dead. I think he simply stayed behind and so the rest of the world thinks he died in the crash. The question is, however, why would Jin stay behind?
The preview for next week said someone will die. My guess is that it is Claire bcause Aaron is with Kate now.
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Well what else has she got?
I myself still haven't decided... The idea of Jun being left behind never crossed my mind, and I read it and was like WOW that makes a lot of sense. I still don't know though.....
Michael thing was completely obvious to those of us who go online and chat about the show, and a lot of people who don't (I mean his name has been in the credits since the first eppy.) I still don't think it was anythnig bad though, am very interested to see what has happened between him leaving and now.
Can't wait for next week.
First time seeing this thread on macrumors....hahaha...and glad I did. Hopefully someone can shed some insight on whats going on in my head!
1. who the heck was in the empty coffin jack went to visit when he had a flash-forward (when he met kate at the airport he asked her why didn't she go???)???
2. From tonight's episode, is Jin having a flash-forward or flash-back (which would tie in with Sun calling out his name during labor)???
3. Where the heck is WALT??? My guess is he is being held by Ben and Jacob since supposedly from season 1 and 2, he was suppose to be special as well?
1. who the heck was in the empty coffin jack went to visit when he had a flash-forward (when he met kate at the airport he asked her why didn't she go???)???
2. From tonight's episode, is Jin having a flash-forward or flash-back (which would tie in with Sun calling out his name during labor)???
3. Where the heck is WALT??? My guess is he is being held by Ben and Jacob since supposedly from season 1 and 2, he was suppose to be special as well?
The whole thing about whether the time effect is 30 minutes off or 2 days off...why couldn't it be both?
I'm very late coming back to this show, so forgive me if someone's already postulated this, but they keep mentioning something weird about the "magnetic field" of the island. Maybe time there isn't just off, it's unstable. It might be right in one area, 2 days off in another, 30 min. off in still another...and those areas keep shifting around.
That might explain why mothers can't give birth on the island...perhaps the cell division and nutritional needs that unborn babies have are such rapid and fragile processes that they can't hack being yanked around like that...and that affects the mothers as well.
And it does explain why they had to fly back to the ship on the exact same path they came in on: if they veered even slightly off their original course, they might venture into a different time-frame, and then...well, who knows? The date might be different, the ship might not be there...anything...
'Course, that's not to say that the time warp couldn't have moved around, like I said earlier. But sticking to their original flight path would obviously give them the best chance to get back to their ship.
But I really think it's more than just a temporal displacement that's happening. I think there's some parallel-dimension factor working, too. It would explain why huts disappear, or why polar bears appear on the island. In some other version of the island, that's just the way things are.
In support of this theory I mention the version of Oceanic 815 that sits underwater with all passengers aboard...and what appeared to be at least two different future versions of Jin which we saw last night.
What's most fascinating to me about this time and/or dimensional effect is...did the Dharma project come to the island to explore an unnatural phenomenon...or did they come to the island to secretly create this phenomenon, which then got beyond their control?
We covered that already, the general concensus is that it somehow has to do with the path taken to/from the island. I don't think Michael is one of the 6, since if it's Michael doesn't get to leave with Walt, he'd stay. It's possible he did get back to civilization, but he's already working on the boat under an assumed name. My question is, how long has he been on the boat versus how long ago he left the island? Ben was very specific about the heading of Michael on the boat.
Did anyone else catch that there were 324 (108*3) passengers on flight 815? Of course that may have been noted back in the beginning, but I'm losing track of all the number references...
I was really confused when the year of the Dragon was mentioned, since I was born in the year of the Dragon I started doing the math... I'm 31, there are 12 signs... so when I was 12, 24, 36... I spent a good chunk of the episode trying to figure out how they got back to 2000, or jumped to 2012, although Jin's cell phone should have clued me in that it was a flashback for him... there's no way he'd be carrying something that big and bulky in 2012...
The captain eluded to Ben being the guy to stage the flight and bodies. We know Ben has access to off island resources. At this point we still don't know who's who. Actually it's become a grey area altogether.
As far as Jin, I think they were messing with us the whole time. Jin said he had only been married for a few months. They had been married several years when they crashed on the island. They have the timelines moving back and forth now for no other reason than to mess with us...
So we now have a clear line of Ben's group versus Widmores organization, although we don't really know much about either of them, other than Desmond didn't like him.
So who are the 6 at this point.
Sun (not sure about Jin)
Kate
Hurley
Jack
Sawyer
Desmond wasn't on the plane, not sure if Claire's baby would be considered.
Walt is under an assumed name, so we can assume Widmore kept it quiet. No word on Walt's son or why he decided to come back for Ben. I guess we can assume a flash forward on Walt getting off the island at some point.
Sayid is one of the six, we don't know about Sawyer... yet.
And Walt is Michael's kid.
I don't know if it means anything, but the way Hurley was acting in the episode makes me think that he's still alive. He was a bit to chirpy for a death. That may be nothing, however.
Jin is often the one to go on expedition fights to save the people. There might be something that happens where they steal the helicopter or something (Sayid could probably fly it explaining why he left) and Jin and Sawyer stay back to keep the others safe.
Of course, I'm just thinking out loud here.
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I still think he's dead.
1) As someone has mentioned, Jin was speaking to his grave. They could have easily had her crying to a photograph, or a gift he once gave her.
2) Hurley asked if they should go see HIM. Not the fake memorial to him, but HIM, as in his final resting place.
3) Most important of all: Sun would never leave the island without Jin under any circumstances. Jin would never not follow her any way he could.
I think this is one of those cases where the writers try to make it really obvious that Jin is dead, hoping the hardcore fans will second guess the death, but intending all along to really have him die in the end.
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