thats a good theory, ill go along with that for now...makes sence since daniel gave the helicopter directions to follow
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thats a good theory, ill go along with that for now...makes sence since daniel gave the helicopter directions to follow
how about the speed at which you travel
?Or maybe they knew it would be two days off and found it was 30 minutes off that mark? Kinda fine tuning the exact time delay...
how about the speed at which you travel
Or maybe they knew it would be two days off and found it was 30 minutes off that mark? Kinda fine tuning the exact time delay...
that could be, and explain why radio communication works, since it's travelling near the speed of light you get it out to people at the time and day it is on the island but slower objects take longer...
I'll have to think about that for awhile...
Of course that wouldn't explain why the path the copter had to take had to be so exact...
Although Sayid made the comment that they'd left the island as dusk and arrived mid-day.
How does the sun rise and set at different intervals on the island than it does on the "outside"?
It's a losing battle trying to figure out pseudo science. Did anyone else watch "Star Trek: The Next Generation"? In order for their starships to run correctly, they were equipped with Heisenberg Uncertainty Compensators. Anyone even remotely familiar with quantum mechanics knows that this is ridiculous. Yet when the show writers were asked how these units worked, their answer was classic: "quite well, thank you."
I'm not necessarily convinced is speed of travel... yet...
I think it's more to do with some sort of field surrounding the island. It's possible that the Swan hatch somehow interacted to allow for communication/transportation to/from the Island, but of course I'm just making this **** up as I go along.
I'm coming around to this being a good episode due to sparking my curiosity and speculation again... I haven't done that about this show in awhile.
Funny you mention Star Trek - that episode last night was reminicent of the final next gen episode where Picard is traveling to 3 different time periods and has to get them all to do a singular action...
Very enjoyable Lost episode though.
Well, JJ Abrams is producing the next Trek movie......
I hope they can finish out the rest of this season of Lost. I would hate for ABC to cut it off without the last 8 episodes.
Nutty space-time theories
I think time is progressing at the same speed on and off the island, but the island's EM properties cause time distortion, so people and things can experience skips (maybe only forward) in time as they pass through areas of the island's magnetosphere.
The helicopter left the island and got to the boat the next day. That explains Sayid's comment that they'd left the island at dusk and arrived mid-day AND why Jack had to wait so long before they got in contact. It did take a day for them to get there, but the people in the helicopter, and the helicopter itself, didn't experience the delay because they skipped most of that time. For example, the helicopter was aloft for a day but used only an hour of gas. Clocks and watches on the helicopter should be behind those on the boat, but when Jack and Sayid talk on the radio they are both doing so at the same time. This doesn't require any speed-of-light travel.
When Desmond pushed the button to save the island (after they didn't enter the numbers), he was subject to intense radiation. He's also been on the island for years, adding to the cumulative effect. That makes him more susceptible to another effect: not time travel, but memory travel. He didn't go back or forward in time, but in 1996 he "remembered" something from 2004 through a time warp, and vice versa.
Unlike Journeyman (I'm sorry that show is gone), Desmond didn't use up elapsed time in his starting place when he traveled to another time. In a split second, he'd experience many minutes in another time, but not because his body traveled there. As others observed, his body stayed, but he "dreamt" something from another time. When you dream, you may invent a long story in a few seconds, and this could be similar. That also matches my theory that only memories are traveling through time. Of course, this is highly disorienting (enough to kill Eloise the rat), so focusing on an "anchor" is a concentration trick to help the brain cope.
Some events in the show don't match my theory (like Desmond remembering Charlie's future incorrectly by saving his life to prevent it), but I'm taking this "Lost Science 101" course only on a pass/fail basis, so I don't need to get an A on my relativity-theory homework assignment.
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I think time is progressing at the same speed on and off the island, but the island's EM properties cause time distortion, so people and things can experience skips (maybe only forward) in time as they pass through areas of the island's magnetosphere.
The helicopter left the island and got to the boat the next day. That explains Sayid's comment that they'd left the island at dusk and arrived mid-day AND why Jack had to wait so long before they got in contact. It did take a day for them to get there, but the people in the helicopter, and the helicopter itself, didn't experience the delay because they skipped most of that time. For example, the helicopter was aloft for a day but used only an hour of gas. Clocks and watches on the helicopter should be behind those on the boat, but when Jack and Sayid talk on the radio they are both doing so at the same time. This doesn't require any speed-of-light travel.
When Desmond pushed the button to save the island (after they didn't enter the numbers), he was subject to intense radiation. He's also been on the island for years, adding to the cumulative effect. That makes him more susceptible to another effect: not time travel, but memory travel. He didn't go back or forward in time, but in 1996 he "remembered" something from 2004 through a time warp, and vice versa.
Unlike Journeyman (I'm sorry that show is gone), Desmond didn't use up elapsed time in his starting place when he traveled to another time. In a split second, he'd experience many minutes in another time, but not because his body traveled there. As others observed, his body stayed, but he "dreamt" something from another time. When you dream, you may invent a long story in a few seconds, and this could be similar. That also matches my theory that only memories are traveling through time. Of course, this is highly disorienting (enough to kill Eloise the rat), so focusing on an "anchor" is a concentration trick to help the brain cope.
Some events in the show don't match my theory (like Desmond remembering Charlie's future incorrectly by saving his life to prevent it), but I'm taking this "Lost Science 101" course only on a pass/fail basis, so I don't need to get an A on my relativity-theory homework assignment.
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They eluded to something in the show, mainly to follow a very specific heading otherwise there will be side effects. Back when Michael left the island on the boat, Ben told him to say on a specific heading to get off the island. Desmond essentially just circled the island when he tried to leave.
Not sure what it all means... It hurts too much! LOL
Not sure what it all means... It hurts too much! LOL
Please say it ain't so!
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It ain't so.
I'm surprised you missed them..........
Pennys address.......... 423 cheyne walk
Black rock ledger auction........... item #2342
Daniel told desmond to Quote......."2.342"
years between 1996 & 2004......... 8
Maybe more numbers in this episode.
I'm too busy trying to work out the paradox.
Usually a paradox is based around a Physical presence in another time.
This episode was about consciousness shifting time zones.
how did the 2.342 come into existence.
Faraday only found out from desmond about 2.342@11, yet faraday told desmond to tell him something he didn't know then.
A paradox using a consciousness shift.......interesting.
daniel faraday? should we expect to come across a faraday cage?
Is that room locke's father appeared in........never mind......have to think about that one some more.
Does ben have constants all over the place and jump from body to body, year to year?
We have had some Ben flashbacks. We saw Ben arrive on the island as a child, his father not knowing it was his birthday, Ben killing his father, and Ben barking out instructions when Flight 815 first crashed.
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Now that we know there's a space/time continuum surrounding the island it's anybody's guess when Ben arrived on the island. imho.
Those few Ben flashes very well could have been in the future. This would explain why the boat people want to get to him so badly.
just a random thought
Those few Ben flashes very well could have been in the future. This would explain why the boat people want to get to him so badly.
just a random thought
Are any of us not confused with this show? That's what it's all about.
Is it Thursday yet?
i like the idea of different paths=different times of differential (both positive and negative).
in that case where did ben send Michael? (325 vs 305)
if ben knows how to control/use them, it would easily explain why they want him so bad and how he is so rich in the future/alternative world
still, it cannot only be a time-warp thing. there must be also 'spatial' wormholes of sorts: how did the Black Rock end up here (from madagascar) and inland? and especially: how ecko's brother biplane made it to the island from nigeria?
in that case where did ben send Michael? (325 vs 305)
if ben knows how to control/use them, it would easily explain why they want him so bad and how he is so rich in the future/alternative world
still, it cannot only be a time-warp thing. there must be also 'spatial' wormholes of sorts: how did the Black Rock end up here (from madagascar) and inland? and especially: how ecko's brother biplane made it to the island from nigeria?
What could possibly get Locke off the island?
There will be 13 episodes this season (5 more), but Damon and Carlton (the producers) said that even though 3 episodes are missing, they will be made up over the next 2 (last) seasons. They said that there will be the same number of hours of Lost left, so there must be some 2 hour episodes coming up over the next couple of years.
Dialysis.
The gunshot wound from Ben? It nicked his healthy kidney.
You heard it here first.
he would already be in trouble, and he said himself that he survived exactly because he was missing a kidney, so the shot didn't hit any vital organ.
Ah right. I barely pay attention anymore. I only watch because I have so much time invested in the show, but I think it's gone horribly awry.
really?
i think this season the episodes have been really great (maybe apart from the kate one).
could be the best season yet if they keep it up
there's some comedy........
Jack : "you had a therapist?"
Juliette : " It's not easy being an other."
Ben to Sawyer and Hugo ; "See you guys at dinner"
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