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gadfly said:
cool episode. this is the reason I love this show. great characters cool stories and michelle rodriguez is hot

she is kinda hot, but man... does she play the "bitch" role perfectly everytime she has to in a movie or on this show.
 
i don't think we know yet for sure....

she's dying, but not dead for sure yet, so is sawyer. and from the looks of it sayid may be getting ready to kill rodriguez' character... lol. This show is so damn addicting. I didn't think i could like it better than 24, but it's getting there on the fast train. ha.
 
technocoy said:
she's dying, but not dead for sure yet, so is sawyer. and from the looks of it sayid may be getting ready to kill rodriguez' character... lol. This show is so damn addicting. I didn't think i could like it better than 24, but it's getting there on the fast train. ha.
Did anyone hear a gunshot? I remember thunder or lightning... but I don't remember an actual gunshot. Guess I'll have to watch that part again... but who's to say that Ana Lucia actually shot Shannon? I have my doubts, just from the look on her face... I don't know... :confused:
 
Lyle said:
OK, now, I was wondering about this shortly after the show ended last night and couldn't remember for sure. Are we absolutely certain that Sayid saw Walt, too? I know that during that final scene, he was looking in the same direction as Shannon was, but did he actually say anything to let us know that he also saw Walt (e.g. saying, "What the crap! There's Walt!")?

I guess I'm still not sure that Shannon wasn't hallucinating.

I'm pretty sure that Sayid did not see Walt. The way it was cut made me believe that Sayid was saying he saw to keep Shannon from running away.

I don't remember exactly how it went but it was something like

Walt in the shrubbery, cut to Shannon who asks "Do you see him?", show the empty shrubbery, cut to Sayid who says "Yes", cut back to Walt in the shrubbery. Made me believe that Sayid did not see Walt but he did understand that Shannon was not dreaming. Sayid also knew that the only way to get Shannon to go back to the beach would be to agree with her.
 
stonyc said:
but who's to say that Ana Lucia actually shot Shannon? I have my doubts, just from the look on her face... I don't know... :confused:

I think it's still technically up in the air but someone mentioned on another forum about how the gun she was holding had something (don't know what it's called) opened on it (I don't know much about guns), anyways aparently this happens when a semi-automatic pistol has fired its last round (Ana Lucia only had the 1 bullet-- from Saywer saving the one on the raft), so there's a very good chance that she pulled the trigger. Some w/ gun knowledge, please explain what I'm trying to say.

Good point about Shannon not necessarily being dead yet. We never actually saw her die (Maybe Jack can save her? Sawyer too? or will he have to choose between them like he did w/ his ex-wife and Shannon's dad?)

As for Sayed seeing/not seeing Walt, I guess that's also still up in the air, but he gave a very convincing performance if he was just trying to calm down Shannon (he fooled me). Assuming he did see Walt, does that mean he's a ghost? Some sort of mental projection (this seems kind of weird/hard to believe to me)? What do you guys think?
 
Here's a thought that I had during the show. Does the other castaways/lost characters have a spy like Ethan within their group? I was thinking of the blonde psychology lady. Don't really know why I think that but then I am pretty addicted to the show anyway.
 
Walt: Shhhh! backward giberish...
Shannon (to Sayid): Don't you see him
Sayid: (nods yes)
Shannon: (runs towards Walt)


So long story short, Sayid acknowledged seeing Walt.

GorillaPaws said:
I think it's still technically up in the air but someone mentioned on another forum about how the gun she was holding had something (don't know what it's called) opened on it (I don't know much about guns), anyways aparently this happens when a semi-automatic pistol has fired its last round (Ana Lucia only had the 1 bullet-- from Saywer saving the one on the raft), so there's a very good chance that she pulled the trigger. Some w/ gun knowledge, please explain what I'm trying to say.

Yep, the gun looked open. I don't know anything about guns.. but in movies, when they are out of ammo they look like Ana's did last night.
 
another thing is that, on other lost forums, people have pics of the wound on shannon and it doesn't look like a gunshot wound. More like a knife slash. So it could be that Ana Lucia shot (it was a shot, not lighting) missed and shannon died from another person.
 
xli_ne said:
another thing is that, on other lost forums, people have pics of the wound on shannon and it doesn't look like a gunshot wound. More like a knife slash. So it could be that Ana Lucia shot (it was a shot, not lighting) missed and shannon died from another person.
Hmm.. that sounds good too.
 
xli_ne said:
another thing is that, on other lost forums, people have pics of the wound on shannon and it doesn't look like a gunshot wound. More like a knife slash. So it could be that Ana Lucia shot (it was a shot, not lighting) missed and shannon died from another person.

The gun was locked open, indicating that the last round had, indeed been fired. As for Shannon's wound, it looked quite like a bullet wound. Many have the mistaken idea that a bullet entry wound is huge and gaping when, in fact, it's typically not much larger than the caliber of the bullet. A single knife wound to her stomach would at the point we saw her (moments after) have bled more than a bullet wound.
 
Moof1904 said:
The gun was locked open, indicating that the last round had, indeed been fired. As for Shannon's wound, it looked quite like a bullet wound. Many have the mistaken idea that a bullet entry wound is huge and gaping when, in fact, it's typically not much larger than the caliber of the bullet. A single knife wound to her stomach would at the point we saw her (moments after) have bled more than a bullet wound.


If you slow it down it looks like a vertical gash.. about 6 inches high. Although, it could just be the space in between buttons on her shirt, it's hard to tell. I'm thinking it was a gun shot wound though.
 
I hate to be a buzzkill but I thought last night's episode was uninspired.

Too many unanswered questions about the hatch( like, why aren't they in it, why aren't they trying to use it to get off the island, etc), the heavyhanded attempts to make an antogonistic relationship between Locke and Charlie, Shannon's sudden transformation into a concerned caring individual, (ntm, way too much backstory on Shannon), and the overhyped unlikeable character played by Michelle Rodriguez, etc, etc...

I found myself asking " I waited three weeks for this?"...
 
Didn't see Jack at all this episode. And I reckon both Shannon and Sawyer will die. :)

Aww, that sucks. Just as shannon was turning nice. Also, yes, Sayid definately saw Walt.

Anyone have a link to a video of next week's preview? Its not included in my copies. :) Thanks
 
XIII said:
Didn't see Jack at all this episode. And I reckon both Shannon and Sawyer will die. :)

Aww, that sucks. Just as shannon was turning nice. Also, yes, Sayid definately saw Walt.

Anyone have a link to a video of next week's preview? Its not included in my copies. :) Thanks
Jack was in the episode, in one of Shannon's first flashbacks. They were in the hospital in the hallway when the doctor is talking to her and the step-mom about her father and Jack rushes by.
 
stonyc said:
Jack was in the episode, in one of Shannon's first flashbacks. They were in the hospital in the hallway when the doctor is talking to her and the step-mom about her father and Jack rushes by.
I'm beginning to get turned off from Lost. Everything is connected somehow, yet they provide no explanations whatsoever about how or why. There must be some singificance that Jack's wife was in an accident with Shannon's father, that Locke may have worked in a facroty that Hurley owned. I think it's starting to show that the writers really don't have a clue where they're going, and are now straggling to throw in hooks to keep viewers. Dissappointing really, I was excited about this show.
 
Moof1904 said:
The gun was locked open, indicating that the last round had, indeed been fired...
Just to clarify, I don't think anyone questions that Ana Lucia fired the gun, the question is who (or what) she was shooting at. Some of the speculation I've seen this morning (on other forums) is that Danielle Rousseau (the "French chick") stabbed Shannon, because she believes that Shannon has the sickness (the same sicknese that led Danielle to kill her other colleagues). Ana Lucia shot at Rousseau (possibly hitting her) and Sayid just hasn't seen her yet.
 
pdpfilms said:
I'm beginning to get turned off from Lost. Everything is connected somehow, yet they provide no explanations whatsoever about how or why. There must be some singificance that Jack's wife was in an accident with Shannon's father, that Locke may have worked in a facroty that Hurley owned. I think it's starting to show that the writers really don't have a clue where they're going, and are now straggling to throw in hooks to keep viewers. Dissappointing really, I was excited about this show.
I think it shows that all of these people lost on the island are connected somehow and that (like Locke says) there's a specific reason why they are all there. That reason? No idea.. :)
 
Lyle said:
Just to clarify, I don't think anyone questions that Ana Lucia fired the gun, the question is who (or what) she was shooting at. Some of the speculation I've seen this morning (on other forums) is that Danielle Rousseau (the "French chick") stabbed Shannon, because she believes that Shannon has the sickness (the same sicknese that led Danielle to kill her other colleagues). Ana Lucia shot at Rousseau (possibly hitting her) and Sayid just hasn't seen her yet.
Or Ana Lucia could have been shooting at an Other who had stabbed Shannon?
 
Good episode.. especially after the LAST episode (which wasn't so good).

However, no one technically "died" in this one. One disappeared, one passed out, and one got shot. But no one was confirmed "dead".

I'm just glad they left Miss Lilly out of it.. I'd stop watching if they killed her off. :)
 
pdpfilms said:
I'm beginning to get turned off from Lost. Everything is connected somehow, yet they provide no explanations whatsoever about how or why. There must be some singificance that Jack's wife was in an accident with Shannon's father, that Locke may have worked in a facroty that Hurley owned. I think it's starting to show that the writers really don't have a clue where they're going, and are now straggling to throw in hooks to keep viewers. Dissappointing really, I was excited about this show.
Supposedly, there's a master plan for the first five seasons of the show. I think you're right that there is some significance to all of these connections between the characters, but the writers are just taking their time to explain the significance. We've already had one "payoff" in that area, in that Sawyer figured out that it was Jack's father that he'd met in the bar in Australia (and told Jack about what his father said). Unless Shannon isn't quite dead yet, I don't see how Jack's ever going to make the connection about that accident that killed Shannon's father, though.
 
I would also like to point this out...

I REALLY don't think Shannon is dead.. or at least that she will be killed immediately in the next episode. Why do I feel that way? What is the point of all the background they did on her during the episode if they're just going to kill her?

I'm pretty sure the chick that 'disappeared' is the one that gets 'lost'.
 
Lyle said:
Just to clarify, I don't think anyone questions that Ana Lucia fired the gun, the question is who (or what) she was shooting at. Some of the speculation I've seen this morning (on other forums) is that Danielle Rousseau (the "French chick") stabbed Shannon, because she believes that Shannon has the sickness (the same sicknese that led Danielle to kill her other colleagues). Ana Lucia shot at Rousseau (possibly hitting her) and Sayid just hasn't seen her yet.


that one is reallllllllllly out there. who ever thought up that one has an imagination, but who knows, might be true. it is anyone's guess.
 
Lyle said:
I don't see how Jack's ever going to make the connection about that accident that killed Shannon's father, though.

That's easy. When everyone gets back to camp Jack is going to have to decide between Shannon and Sawyer. When he decides to save Sawyer (either because Shannon is too far gone or Sawyer is closer to death at that point) Shannon will die. At her funeral they will read her name a Shannon Rutheford which will trigger Jack's memory.

He will then go off on a heroin bender with Charlie...

Ok, maybe not that last part....
 
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