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The chin on the iMac is fine. It's been that way for years. At least it's fully justified since it carries all the electronics, cooling system and speakers. Unlike these ugly Thinkpads with a huge chin at the bottom of the screen which is completely Unjustified. At least Apple continues to innovate the iMac. These Thinkpads are never innovated year after year and they are just as pricey as Macs.

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Somehow I envision being pretty upset when the 32” M1X iMac is released if I purchase the 24” $2100 16gb/1tb option. 🧐
 
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My 2018 Mac mini has the fastest Intel processor offered, 2 TB of SSD and third party (OWC) 64GB of ram. It functions as a file server. It uses 32GB of the 64Gb of memory as a data cache for the external RAID system.

From day one in my Apple experience going back to 1990, I always bought the top performer CPU and as more parts became welded, the biggest SSD and most memory configuration. That thinking has provided each system the ability to last ;longer going against the planned obsolesce and annual MacOS changes.

Today, my 2013 MacPro could be running the latest MacOS (when 11.3 is released I will consider this option) as it has been upgraded to a 2TB SSD and 128GB of ram.
 
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You mean the Jony Ive who designed those awful 2016-2019 MacBook Pro's with the butterfly keyboard and ESC key built into the Touch Bar? That Jony Ive?
It's also the Jony Ive who designed every other Apple product since 2000s that made the company it is today...
 
Does anyone have a sense of whether the speed increase of this RAM makes up for having so little of it? My 9yo iMac has 24 GB of RAM and still feels very fast today. Would stepping down to 16 GB on a new machine still objectively be an upgrade in every circumstance? How about even when running virtual machines (where some chunk of memory is dedicated to each)?
 
For those bitching about the 16G RAM limit on the M1 systems, if you had done your homework you'd find that it seems to be a 16G limit on the chip's addressability of RAM, i.e., NO RAM over 16G.
 
Well, this is all relative.

"Better" is relative, and so is "same category".

If you consider all-in-one PCs, you will not be able to find something better for this price or for any price. You have the Microsoft Surface Studio and the Dell XPS 27 AIO, but I guess the iMac beats them all.

Now, for the price of a maxed-out iMac, you may build a custom PC that is better in many aspects. It may not have a faster processor, but it will have far more RAM, storage, perhaps a better video card, a mechanical keyboard, and a monitor that suits you, which can have a larger size, a higher resolution, a higher refresh rate, or other features. It will have different features, some of which are better than the ones found in an iMac.

Price and category go together. If you raise too much of the price, you go to the next higher-end category. It is tricky.

If you are a reasonable person who does not buy into Apple's marketing, you will be able to weigh pros and cons and have an informed buy based on the balance of price and quality.

If you just want the lowest price possible, regardless of quality, then Apple is not even a contender.

If you are a stupid dummy who just wants a colorful and thin computer that looks great in your living room, then Apple is the only contender and ready to rip you off.
While much of what you said made sense I would've omitted the "Stupid Dummy" comment. There are lot of people here that will happily buy the new iMac. Just because you won't buy one for the reasons others would doesn't mean you need to refer to people as "Stupid Dummies". That's really an unnecessary rude comment. And there's no such thing as a company ripping someone off. If a customer agrees to buy something that's on them.
 
The chin is needed.
  • Behind it are the main processors and cooling system. Putting a screen on top of that would just make it too thick.
Too thick for what? Its against the wall...
  • Also look at the new magnetic power plug, the length is so long that a screen would not fit on the other side. In the animation it looks like being about 75% of the thickness of the iMac.
That is poor excuse. If the thing was 2x thickness it would be perfect
  • It would be either a chin or a higher stand, too avoid needing to look down much. A higher stand would get criticism too. IMO this is the best solution.
Why would you need higher stand? Im sure they can engineer the stand. Look at the XDR thing for 100 USD
 
This iMac makes no sense.

4.5k on a 24” screen is wasteful, and that’s the bulk of cost of the machine. You’re essentially paying for a $600 Mac mini integrated into a $900 24” LCD display.

they missed the chance of giving the iMac an entry level price point of $999 with still a good display. You just don’t need these many pixels in such a tiny display.


I will hand it to Apple. They are making the Mac Mini much more attractive choice. Spend your money on a separate pro grade monitor that will last years and it doesn't have distracting colors.
 
The chin on the iMac is fine. It's been that way for years. At least it's fully justified since it carries all the electronics, cooling system and speakers. Unlike these ugly Thinkpads with a huge chin at the bottom of the screen which is completely Unjustified. At least Apple continues to innovate the iMac. These Thinkpads are never innovated year after year and they are just as pricey as Macs.

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For once, I agree with you. Lenovo has such a confusing website too.
 
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Bummer! I was hoping for at least 32 GB RAM upgrade option available! 😕
What many people are not getting, even the high end version is a low end Apple, with very high end performance. The RAM and storage are integrated directly into the M1, making them cost more but be very, very fast. Will I be getting one of these? No. I will be waiting for the M[next] version that supports more screens, a much bigger primary screen and comes with more ram and internal storage. I am looking forward to the upcoming Big iMac and the next Mac Pro. (I may be stuck with the next Intel Mac Pro because, the M[next++] version will probably come without PCIe.

This is a fantastic computer, just not for me or many others on this site.
 
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No extended keyboard option, I take it?

You didn't watch the keynote, I take it?

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Apple also notes that it is possible to upgrade from the standard Magic Keyboard with the entry-level iMac to the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID. All base configurations will also offer the option of upgrading to the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID and Numeric Keypad, but it is not yet clear how much these keyboard upgrades will cost.
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Is the original question regarding the option of an extended numeric keypad? If so, the article mentions it, though no pricing yet available. I'm sorry barbs were traded over something as easy to clarify as this.
 
Wait, are they saying the cheapest model doesn't include Ethernet at all, or just not Gigabit Ethernet?
The cheapest model likely comes with a power brick that doesn't have the ethernet connection.

Likely being marketed to schools and kids that aren't going to make use of it anyway
 


The redesigned iMac with the M1 chip is available in three different base configurations that users can upgrade with Build-to-Order options for their specific needs. The new 24-inch iMac starts at $1,299, but it can reach $2,628 through Build-to-Order options.

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There are three standard configuration 24-inch iMac models available from Apple:

  • $1,299 - Apple M1 chip with 8-Core CPU and 7-Core GPU, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports, and Magic Keyboard.
  • $1,499 - Apple M1 chip with 8-Core CPU and 8-Core GPU, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports and two USB 3 ports, gigabit ethernet, and Magic Keyboard with Touch ID.
  • $1,699 - Apple M1 chip with 8-Core CPU and 8-Core GPU, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports and two USB 3 ports, gigabit ethernet, and Magic Keyboard with Touch ID.

Build to Order Options

Entry-level 24-inch iMac with 256GB of storage:


  • 16GB RAM - +$200
  • 512GB SSD - +$200
  • 1TB SSD - +$400
  • Gigabit Ethernet - +$30

Mid-level 24-inch iMac with 256GB of storage:

  • 16GB RAM - +$200
  • 512GB SSD - +$200
  • 1TB SSD - +$400
  • 2TB SSD - +$800

High-end 24-inch iMac with 512GB of storage:

  • 16GB RAM - +$200
  • 1TB SSD - +$200
  • 2TB SSD - +$600

Color-Matched Accessory Options

All M1 iMac configurations come with a color-matched Magic Mouse as standard, but users can opt to upgrade to the Magic Trackpad, or purchase both the Magic Mouse and the Magic Trackpad together.

  • Magic Trackpad - +$50
  • Magic Mouse + Magic Trackpad - +$129

Apple also notes that it is possible to upgrade from the standard Magic Keyboard with the entry-level iMac to the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID. All base configurations will also offer the option of upgrading to the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID and Numeric Keypad, but it is not yet clear how much these keyboard upgrades will cost.

The M1 iMac will be available to pre-order on Friday, April 30, and will begin arriving to customers in the second half of May.

Article Link: M1 iMac Configurations and Pricing Breakdown
I wonder how much they'll charge for the numerical keypad?

I'm guessing £30?
 
It's also the Jony Ive who designed every other Apple product since 2000s that made the company it is today...
Ive also designed some stinkers. His talents are world class, but he hit a wall with apple and needed to move on.

Forcing new products and branding to be “Ive compliant” wasn’t moving anything forward, and really just forced apple products to exist within a narrowing set parameters based on Ive’s precidents.

I don’t know who is heading product design now. (I hope it is a woman and/or person of color) but they are doing a bang up job. We are slowly leaving Ive’s design language and adopting something a bit friendlier that doesn’t put too many demands on thinness of products. Also, these new products are not nostalgic throwbacks either. It’s new and inviting.

Be brave. Put the yellow iMac on your desk.
 
The 24" with a power adapter of 143W...that means apple is thinking way ahead with the next M3 M4 chips that will require that power or they created 1 power adapter for the 24" and for the bigger 30" imac ?!
What 30" iMac? Current iMacs only 21.5 and 27.
 
The cheapest model likely comes with a power brick that doesn't have the ethernet connection.

Likely being marketed to schools and kids that aren't going to make use of it anyway
Apple’s site says you can configure the 1,299 model with gigabit Ethernet, so it’ll just be another upsell option when you get to the configuration part of your order.
 
The cheapest model likely comes with a power brick that doesn't have the ethernet connection.

Likely being marketed to schools and kids that aren't going to make use of it anyway
It seems like the base model is going to be configurable with ethernet, similar to the touch id keyboard.
 
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It's also the Jony Ive who designed every other Apple product since 2000s that made the company it is today...
Ah you mean all those amazing products Ive designed such as the iPhone 4 with the non-working antenna?

The no-screen iPod Shuffle that Apple quickly discontinued since people didn't care for not being able to see what song was playing or choose which song to play? Ive designed it.

The iPod nano with the easy to scratch screens?

The sunflower iMac (while beautiful and innovative) with the wobbly screen that Ive just couldn't get to work right even after a few generations?

The PowerMac G4 MDD with the extreme noisy fans that were easily heard all around the Apple stores?

The iPod Hifi that Apple couldn't even sell so the immediately discontinued it?

How about the Trash Can Mac Pro. Another amazingly beautiful and useless Ive innovation.

It's also interesting how for many years while Ive was at Apple that people right here complained how Apple is so obsessed with THINNESS but those were design choices by Ive.
 
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