Well, it is the only user replaceable part. So that might be a big win depending on how terrible the power supply design turns out to be.
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M1 iMac Configurations and Pricing Breakdown
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But other than the colour, what issue is there with the design on the machine? Honestly curious as it looks trademark Apple and just an evolution of the iMac design
I can get a 1 TB Samsung 980 Pro that writes 5000 megabytes per second and reads at 7000 megabytes per second.
$199.99 on Amazon right now.
Apple is ripping you off.
It's a stationary iMac. External solutions are not an inconvenience.
As someone said here SSD prices are insulting!
Why anybody in their right mind, would spend $600 for a 2TB upgrade, when they can get a 2TB external SSD for $220 almost 1/3 of the price?
Apple keeps forgetting we are in 2021. Entry level specs are like we are in 2016, which is pathetic. Apple users, continue being ripped off by obscene upgrade pricing of both RAM and SSD.
Why anybody in their right mind, would spend $600 for a 2TB upgrade, when they can get a 2TB external SSD for $220 almost 1/3 of the price?
Apple keeps forgetting we are in 2021. Entry level specs are like we are in 2016, which is pathetic. Apple users, continue being ripped off by obscene upgrade pricing of both RAM and SSD.
Been an Apple customer since 2006, never bought anything else since then. I am well aware of what Jobs and Ive thought. What some people (who are ecstatic about this release) don't realise that now many of iMac owners have been probably priced out as with this idiotic direction of Cook everything that looks good will cost a lot more. The "brave" colours will fill the lower end and in Apple's terms thats touching €2000 for a computer. This is not about splitting the pro from consumer, this is about driving the prices even higher.
Good. I know. I don’t care. Nobody else makes stuff like Apple does.
We'l firstly Apple has been a Rainbow-logo'd company since the very beginning. Jobs was very adamant on what he wanted for his customers and if he didn't like multiple colored Apple products there wouldn't have been multi-colored iMacs and iPods. He continued the rainbow colors for many years. For Jobs it wasn't about "Take the one I choose for you", he followed the Henry Ford line of "If I asked customers what they wanted they would've said faster horses". He was right that customers don't really know what they want or need. There are some people here (I won't mention) that just don't know what the hell they are talking about such as a post stating that Apple should've made the new iMac an ALL SCREEN machine. Really? How? Where would the electronics, speakers and cooling system be placed, in a larger body? It's easy for people to say what they want but they don't tend to know what they're talking about.
I think the network adapter on the power brick makes sense for most users. Where do you plug into your hardware network. Most homes and offices I know are next to the mains power plug-in. Makes it so I don't have to run two wires all the way back to my computer from the wall, just two to the power brick.
Yes. For the money you’d better off with top-specced M1 Mac Mini and get your own display (Dell Ultrasharp is a great alternative).
You can plug another devices to said monitor, also Mini has a built in ethernet, and power supply.
Too thick for what? Are you planning on putting this in your backpack. These things sit on desks. Who cares about an extra inch or so.
It’s a major stepback by design standpoint. It’s been years since iMacs came up with built-in power supply. Now it came as separated unit along with Ethernet as the hostage.
Please point me to a year where Apple's was always fair about pricing and upgrades? I've been a Mac user exclusively since over 20 years and they've always been expensive and limited on the base configurations. I bought the first 17" Powerbook in 2003 and it was $3299.00 for the base model. Wait until WWDC and see if you will still say the same thing because I'm 100% certain there will be a Pro line of Macs (and perhaps a Pro iMac) that will greatly be separated from this new lineup.
I can't do anything personally to make you happy about the price upgrades but if you're not happy with Apple's new lineup then maybe it's time for you to move on to what's available in the world of Windows.
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It seems to have the ethos of the very first iMac, which is in line with the tech specs.
But then to have it upgradeable to such a high cost doesn't really meet that consumer product model of the very first iMac.
Also desktops have become more and more niche. At one point a consumer model to just get on the Internet was more than enough. But it seems like a desktop now should do something more than be a stationary version of a mobile computer to justify its existence. Maybe there is still that market for people who like desktops and don't do a lot of creation work. I don't know. It's not one Apple has focused on in a long time as the iMacs moved toward more pro-like machines over time. Both in design and specs and ports this seems like a return to the idea of the general purpose family computer, which hasn't really been a thing for a long while.
I could definitely see these at doctor's offices, etc., at the front desk where you check in. They even said something about how the back of it is the first thing a lot of people see.
But then to have it upgradeable to such a high cost doesn't really meet that consumer product model of the very first iMac.
Also desktops have become more and more niche. At one point a consumer model to just get on the Internet was more than enough. But it seems like a desktop now should do something more than be a stationary version of a mobile computer to justify its existence. Maybe there is still that market for people who like desktops and don't do a lot of creation work. I don't know. It's not one Apple has focused on in a long time as the iMacs moved toward more pro-like machines over time. Both in design and specs and ports this seems like a return to the idea of the general purpose family computer, which hasn't really been a thing for a long while.
I could definitely see these at doctor's offices, etc., at the front desk where you check in. They even said something about how the back of it is the first thing a lot of people see.
I find it odd that these have so many config variables. These are entry level products and Apple is asking ‘average joe’ computer user to decide how many ports they need and whether they want Ethernet? I guess it makes the upswell easier??
It also doesn’t seem very efficient from a supply chain/manufacturing standpoint.
It also doesn’t seem very efficient from a supply chain/manufacturing standpoint.
I really like the blue (back), but not liking the sky blue front. That seems like an odd decision to go two-toned like that. Really makes silver the preferred color choice.
Quality? what quality are you talking about when they are shipping in 2021 with 256 SSD and 8GB ram?
That is quality Circa 2016
Hmm… I don’t really understand these upgrade pricing tiers.
Mid-level $1499 + 1TB SSD $400 = $1900
High-End $1699 + 1TB SSD $200 = $1900
Is the 1TB SSD +$200 for the high-end a mis-print?
Mid-level $1499 + 1TB SSD $400 = $1900
High-End $1699 + 1TB SSD $200 = $1900
Is the 1TB SSD +$200 for the high-end a mis-print?
Try carrying around that external drive everywhere you go and having to plug it in just to use it vs. having a drive built-in that also much faster.
LMAO! I love that term, "ripping you off". There's no such thing as long as a customer makes the choice to purchase. The only way a customer can be truly ripped off is if they were lied to and there's no return or refund policy. Otherwise that's a stupid term and makes no sense to say that.
iMac is a desktop machine, it does not need to be this thin and lose the sense of all in one machine. I remember first opening the iMac box thinking, "this is so cool, very little stuff to have around the desk". Now we have the magnetic power cable (will do very well with people who have pets and kids), power brick with "innovation" that is the Ethernet port (not sure if that's even a standard). White bezels, which are horrible for designers and videogrpahers/photogrpahers (yes, iMac is used by them). Pro desktops were always too expensive to buy and regular iMacs delivered performance (and upgradeability) to graphic designers, illustrators, videographers, photographers... Now we have this dump, with a possible rumour promise of a bigger Pro iMac, yes sure, that's how a whole category of customers gets priced out. Because that thing will be at least 1K more in cost. Let's not forget about their storage and RAM options on this POS. The lack of ports, which are a totally different story on a desktop and not a laptop. Shall I continue?
Ethernet port should have been at least 5gbe, especially given internet providers are offering >1gb service.
Usb 3 devices max out at what. 500 Mb per second. Usb 3.2 goes up to 1000 Mb per second-ish. Usb 3.2x2 goes up to 2000… if you can find a drive that supports 3.2x2.
So you’re looking at slow storage unless you go thunderbolt.
Why can’t Apple just price gouge us a little instead of a LOT?
Two ideas that come to mind is to either put the components behind the screen and thus the overall thickness will increase slightly (no more than double so 22mm? total). Or an idea I would have gone after is go back to the lamp stand models from 1999 or so where the computer was in the stand. The stands footprint is not much smaller than a Mac mini which has lots of empty space, so they could have innovated in that direction. The other argument for the stand is that this would have made it easier to fix in that you don't have to mess with the display backing to get to the computer internals. The one downside with the current M1 setup is lack of upgradeability to the memory. Maybe the new architecture will make this irrelevant, time will tell.
You're confusing good quality with built-in specs. You make no sense with that. Apple's products have very good build quality. Often in the Windows world a product in the same category as Apple's will have terrible build quality, creaky plastics, poor screens, bad speakers and easily breakable bezels. Specs have nothing to do with the quality of a product.