Surely far less effort to just buy a PS5 if you want to play games. Why has one machine got to do it all?
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M1 Max Chip May Have More Raw GPU Performance Than a PlayStation 5
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The Intel vs Apple chips is more of an X86 vs ARM64 architecture, but that’s a measure for CPU operations. And obviously, ARM64 is just way more efficient.
However, for GPUs, the max TF performance doesn’t really matter when it comes to X86 or ARM64 and their max theoretical performance should be the same across all platforms.
That has been my concern for the past year or so. It doesn't look like Apple is going to do hardware ray tracing with any M1 (or A15) chips this time around. So maybe M2? The Metal API doesn't seem to support it.
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Dongle-Life, lol
Which helps you not at all if you are away from home and want to game (you may as well tell folks to give Microsoft money for xCloud).
The previous gens iPad Pro performance was comparable to the Xbox One S and that was evident in games running a flawless 60 FPS at native resolution. I wouldn't be surprised if M1 Max came close as the regular M1 was already comparable to a 1050 Ti.
GDDR6 only uses around 20W and the consoles have a bandwidth of 448-560GB/s worth of memory bandwidth.
Use an iPad Or a switch?
i’ll cheerfully admit, however, that I got all of my gaming out of my system by my mid teens
That is an interesting statement and point. I think it is a similar dynamic that you see with the transition to electric vehicles and how Tesla came out of nowhere and is threatening multiple legacy manufacturers.
Basically - the industry has ben focused on x86 for over 30 years. Their entire capital investment in manufacturing, R&D, and IP has been in that. Their primary source of revenue relies on that income stream. To change course is difficult in that scenario. They couldn't invest considerable amounts of money and corporate resources without interrupting their core business (investable capital, current manufacturing capacity, engineering resources, etc.)
Apple slowly developed their chip capability by focusing on design and engineering and focused on the IP and ARM format. Given chip design, engineering and manufacturing was not their core revenue driver - they could invest their considerable profits into this venture without it being interrupted by their core operations. They didn't have any distractions or competing demands. Once they got ready to manufacture they relied on a contract manufacturer to get the chips to market. Then they just focused on refining design and engineering. That is an easier feet from a capital investment approach. In the meantime - they could rely on Intel for their current needs. Apple starting out solely as an Arm chip designer had the flexibility and capital to build up their own internal capability. I would see them eventually getting more involved in the manufacturing to the extent that they may take an ownership stake in TSMC. They did that with memory chips.
A similar dynamic played out with Tesla. They focused on being an electric only car manufacturer and designed their engineering and manufacturing processes around that. The legacy auto manufacturers had to deal with their legacy business while trying to develop EV capability. As a result their designs were sub-optimal with regards to weight and manufacturing cost because they were leveraging legacy parts SKUs and body frames. As a result - Tesla outperformed them.
The packaging for the M1 Max changes slightly in that it’s bigger – the most obvious change is the increase of DRAM chips from 2 to 4, which also corresponds to the increase in memory interface width from 256-bit to 512-bit. Apple is advertising a massive 400GB/s of bandwidth, which if it’s LPDDR5-6400, would possibly be more exact at 409.6GB/s. This kind of bandwidth is unheard of in an SoC, but quite the norm in very high-end GPUs.
I think it shows just how low-cost these next-gen consoles are.
When I saw the PS5 was 630 CAD, I wanted to buy it right away. It's always been clear that Sony loses money on these consoles.
Apple has managed to not only meet those expectations, but also vastly surpass them. Both the M1 Pro and M1 Max look like incredibly differentiated designs, much different than anything we’ve ever seen in the laptop space. If the M1 was any indication of Apple’s success in their silicon endeavors, then the two new chips should also have no issues in laying incredible foundations for Apple’s Mac products, going far beyond what we’ve seen from any competitor.
Apple knew what the graphic and computing capabilities the M1X would have. The CPU and GPU power wasn’t a surprise to Apple it was an intentional design. If they were interested in gaming then they could have tried working with a developer to have a working beta version for the reveal. So either Apple or the developers (or both) weren’t interested.
I'm a Windows user, macOs user an Linux distro user... What can i say. "Tell us..." This are tools to provide us a better life. Why should you put in a group like that?. i'm always gratefully for someone that make this devices. Most of the time i cannot afford them. Neither nvidea's/AMD's neither Apple devices, but this cause others to make more affordable ones.
When M1 came out i predict some kind of console from Apple (more than Apple TV). Maybe de MAX will do something in this regard. The battle with Epic games make me feel this can be a thing in the future, or if this will be a thing Epic could be a good partner.
We will see, or not.
This was only true at launch. Check the news from around August 4, 2021 where Sony reported they were no longer selling PS5 consoles at a loss. It took less than one year for that to happen.
this is a platform to build games/apps etc...and there are millions of games on iOS platform and this mac can run them if thats is the only thing you care of
I imagine dealing with Apple, as a developer, is a complete pain in the ass, and when it comes to full size computers the willing to pay for software isn’t greater either. Pair that with a small market share, and that’s it.
Your first statement is correct - no disagreement there. However, one could argue that Apple has done more with the ARM64 architecture than others - their SOC is class leading - bar none. In the general computing space - it will have an impact and will shift the industry.
Irrespective of gaming - a lot of discussion to be had there - for desktops, laptops and portables - Apple will be delivering class leading performance for those use cases. That is an achievement. I think for photography and video editing applications - they will be able to do a lot with this.
yes, from what ive heard since the M1 ipad, there are already 2 AAA games that dont even support older ipads..(and if those works on ipad, works on here too with the support for the different input like mouse) So, it already started
If Apple took Mac gaming seriously, this is what they'd do. If it became popular enough, mainstream gaming companies would take notice and start creating first class games for the Mac, rather than poor performing PC-Ports-to-Mac conversions.