based on their specs...the HDMI supports up to 4k@60hz so its HDMI 2.0And HDMI 2.1 output.
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M1 Max Chip May Have More Raw GPU Performance Than a PlayStation 5
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Not ignored at all. It's obvious the chip is doing useful work. I'm speaking from thermal considerations, which ultimately drive the engineering trades that ultimately influence the physical aspects (size/volume, weight, noise, reliability, etc) of the laptop.
The article said so not me. The point of my comment is even if true that the Mac has more graphics performance than ps5… doesn’t mean a whole lot given that the PS5 has a much broader gaming library than macOS.
Totally agree with you. remember the more advances mobile SoC will be...the more AAA games in the android/ios will be...and for the macs its easy translate at that point from an iOS game to the macOS
I think we already have 2 AAA games on iOS platform that require at minimum the M1 ipad pro...so until now, the problem for complex AAA titles on arm, was the SoC (especially the gpu)
Wait ... so PC gamers aren't paying $3k for a device play games on, already? Does $1k even get you a 3070 graphics card... What's the TF of a $1k max Laptop PC?
I know right, and the PlayStation also comes with a high resolution, 1000 nits, 120hz screen, it’s own speakers, a very fast SSD, a full functioning, beat the crap out of an I9, Cpu, is portable. Totally the same thing, no reason at all the MBP costs more, dah
why is a ps5 even used as a benchmark to begin with, console are known to use mid tier graphic from previous gen while optimizing software and games to make up the differences.
In consoles such as PS5 or Xbox, there is no system memory. It only uses GDDR6 video memory at 448GB/s and those systems pull around 220W to fully switch all transistors for heavy duty tasks.
For example, an 100W RTX3080 mobile has the same TFlops as the 160W RTX3080, but there is a 30-40% difference in performance due to power limitations. I refuse to believe a 60W MacBook GPU can actually do 10.4TF. I would probably consume 200W+ to reach its theoretical 10.4TF.
I think the key thing we don’t know about these GPUs yet is what sort of ray tracing capabilities they have. To truly stand toe-to-toe with Nvidia, AMD and the newest consoles, these GPUs will need to be able to provide ray tracing capabilities.
I’d also be interested to know if the Neural Engine can be utilised for ML-based upscaling like Nvidia’s DLSS as that could provide a significant performance boost with (hopefully) minimal image quality compromise. That would depend on what interconnects exist between it and the GPU though.
I’d also be interested to know if the Neural Engine can be utilised for ML-based upscaling like Nvidia’s DLSS as that could provide a significant performance boost with (hopefully) minimal image quality compromise. That would depend on what interconnects exist between it and the GPU though.
Waste of time, maybe you want the Mac Game Boy - oh wait, the don’t make one. Seriously, I see no reason to play, but have at it, many people like to game
And we can probably guess that the M1 Max is going to be less than 30% of the M1 Pro. And the M1 Pro is going to sell is in significantly less quantities than the M1 that is in the MacBook Air or the base level MacBook Pro. Result is that this will be a small target market.
I expect we will continue to just see ports of older and very popular games on the Mac and that is about it. They will run very well. But they won't be new releases.
Except that consoles used RDN2.0 GPUs before it came out on the PC market. This time it was the other way around.
Which has been true since 1984 and isn’t going to change anytime soon. At least where ”game” means “AAA first-person shooter” - it’s not as if there are NO games for Mac. However good the M1 Max is, it would be a very hard sell to turn around nearly 40 years of preconceptions.
Plus, the elephant in the room, the M1 Max may be an incredible step forward for laptop GPUs where power consumption and thermals are the key constraint but it looks like it is nothing special compared with higher-end desktop PCIe GPUs that can happily pull 200W if they want. There it will probably be down to how well optimised the app is for Metal etc. and things like the hardware ProRes accelerators (which probably won’t do much for gaming).
Meanwhile, Apple already have a major gaming platform: it’s called the iPhone - and if you’re lucky, developers will allow you to run iPhone games on Mac or even make Mac versions... but those are going to be targeted at M1 machines to get the mass market.
No one trusts the vergeIt was at first, but isn't anymore
Sony’s $499 PS5 is no longer selling at a loss
The PS5 won’t be costly like the PS3.www.theverge.com
Apple would have to publish those figures, though. They aren't interchangeable.
A reduction of 70% in dissipated energy would actually be less impressive than the reduction of 70% in power used.
Probably not a market they went after big, it is not the Mac book gamer after all
Chicken and egg situation since Apple exists, I doubt this will change.
Now support Vulkan, and gaming problem will be solved for free