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M1 Pro and M1 Max MacBook Pro Owners Complain of Crashes Playing HDR YouTube Videos
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A software update should definitely be fixing this in the near future
They are too busy fixing what’s not broken-designing ugly and unpractical UI.
No software codec; modern machines use the GPU or dedicated decoding engines in hardware.
Thats how they do 21h of video in longevity tests - video playback uses purpose-built hardware
Google throws a lot of one-off web tech crap on YouTube, and changes their logic often to foil downloaders and ad-blockers. They also will give different video encodes to two different people on the same browser/hardware.
Very different than testing e.g. that the safari change can still render cnn.com
Of course it's software and it would be specific to some random video only.
Personally have not seen any HDR videos cause any problems. I only use Safari.
I haven't been able to load YT comments on Safari on any of my Intel Macs for quite a while now. Not sure what is going on there but I switched to another browser just because of that. It seems to me that either Apple or Google is doing something non-standard to "optimise" their products.
4k was fine. Its 8k that does it for me. Unless its in the av1 codec. Then its fine. 14 pro w 10gpu. all on youtube
There are rising reports of people who've upgraded to Monterey and are NOT on an M1 Mac (let alone a new MacBook), who are encountering WindowServer crashes when playing full screen video. For example, you expand a YouTube video, and it abruptly crashes you back to the login screen. If this is you, please reply.
Here are some examples of others who've reported it:
I've sent logs to Apple through the Feedback Assistant, reported as FB9735409: "
macOS Monterey: WindowServer keeps crashing when trying to watch fullscreen videos".
Here are some examples of others who've reported it:
I've sent logs to Apple through the Feedback Assistant, reported as FB9735409: "
macOS Monterey: WindowServer keeps crashing when trying to watch fullscreen videos".
How awesome that in today’s day and age we can know the exact issue that will cause a computer to crash and most likely have it fixed within weeks. Brilliant
Some 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro owners have been experiencing kernel crashes when watching HDR YouTube videos, according to a number of complaints on the MacRumors forums.
As explained by MacRumors reader Cababah, watching an HDR YouTube video in Safari and then scrolling through the comments results in a kernel error on macOS Monterey 12.0.1. Watching YouTube in full screen and then and exiting full screen mode can also cause the error, and it may be primarily affecting 16GB machines, though 32GB/64GB models can also be affected.
Other MacRumors readers were able to replicate the error, which appears to happen after watching a few YouTube videos. From MacRumors reader spiritedaway:
From MacRumors reader Sam.b1:Some MacBook Pro owners speculate that it's an issue with AV1 decoding, but it is not yet clear what the specific problem is or if it's something that can be fixed in a software update. Not all MacBook Pro owners are seeing this issue, but we were able to replicate it in our own testing.
The macOS Monterey 12.1 beta may fix the problem as some users are reporting improved performance after updating. If you're experiencing the same issue with YouTube, let us know in the comments.
Article Link: M1 Pro and M1 Max MacBook Pro Owners Complain of Crashes Playing HDR YouTube Videos
Absolutely no crashes here whatsoever…on a 2012 13“ MBP with Catalina 😂
You might be onto something, if this is accurate and replicable for many.
Very long stretch: I would even be curious about the machine model/config and even if the system was on dark mode. Could the HDR video (does the AppStore have them too?) + white pixels somehow go over some hardware limits?
Looking at all the M1 P/M vs X Laptop benchmarks videos lately, it was brought up that apparently the reason why a typical windows RTX gamer laptop goes to slow mode when on battery is because there’s a sort of reasonable physical limit of 100W to draw from battery… sounded like “on average cars don’t cross over 200 kph” type of thing. For the plugged situation, maybe a MacBook always goes through the battery even then.
When a fix happens would love to know what was the reason and the detail of the fix.
Fullscreen Youtube problems aren’t new, happened to me on the 2015 MBP all the time for a few months until some Big Sur update dropped.
This reminds me of a situation a number of years ago that I read about. This big company would randomly have a network crash. It took them months to figure out the issue. The cause, one particular PC had a screensaver. If that screensaver hit a certain shade of red AND the computer's clock hit 12:00:00, there was some type of bug that caused the PC to flood the network with traffic that crashed the entire network. Sometimes, there are weird combinations that cause things.
This is a software QA problem. Apple QA has been going downhill since Jaguar because the market continues to support features over quality and no competitor with a similar feature set is significantly better in the quality department.
This is definitely an issue but not massive.
I've had the crash myself. Not every time I play an HDR video, just once. As the article states, it seems to occur when an HDR video is played on YouTube in fullscreen, then switched to windowed mode and quickly scrolled.
I posted about it in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/14-mbp-kernel-crash.2319799/?post=30526329#post-30526329
It's a crash in the IOMobileFramebuffer driver and therefore likely to be fixable with a software update.
I've had the crash myself. Not every time I play an HDR video, just once. As the article states, it seems to occur when an HDR video is played on YouTube in fullscreen, then switched to windowed mode and quickly scrolled.
I posted about it in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/14-mbp-kernel-crash.2319799/?post=30526329#post-30526329
It's a crash in the IOMobileFramebuffer driver and therefore likely to be fixable with a software update.
