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The issue is that the M2 chip is capable of insane performance including editing 8K video, but not sustained workflows due to the lack of an active cooling system.

It’s misleadingly powerful, unlike the Intel Air’s that could barely run Safari.

My dream computer was a MacBook Air with Pro performance, which is essentially what Apple silicon is almost making a reality.
And most of the negative comments are from MBP people complaining about how the Air is going to throttle etc. Yea, it will do that if one tries to use it in a manner not intended. The whining and bashing happened with the M1. I agree that it would be great to get MBP type ability of the Air (if that is the need for some here) but, the tech isn't there yet. I think we will see it in 3 years or less.
 
No, you were talking about the reviews. And I asked you - how do you know these reviews are not truthful if you don't know how good the product is. Maybe this MacBook Air actually is just as good as they say? Wouldn't that make their reviews valid?

But no, you assumed the reviews aren't real reviews because they were positive about a product you haven't even seen.
No. I was talking about the reviewers, not the reviews the themselves.

Here is what I said initially:

How cute. Paid shills getting pre-release products for pimping Apple gear. Rather surprised the trio of Apple Apologists - Rene Ritchie, Jim Dalrymple & John Gruber aren't among the faithful posting videos today.

Please read a post thoroughly before jumping to conclusions next time.
 
...why? You like noise?
So you like slowed sustained Performance under load?
It blends into the menu bar. Use it for 5 minutes and you don't even notice it anymore.

Me, I prefer having the additional screen real estate. 🤷‍♂️
It cuts menubar in half, obstruct items that otherwise visible, reduce menubar usable space and make menubar look bigger when displaying Higher than default scaling.

Me I much prefer a complete menubar without notch rather than that minuscule amount of “extra real estate”.

iPad having no notch is the major reason I use iPhone less and less, and being able to see the whole screen unobstructed is a bless.
 
It blends into the menu bar. Use it for 5 minutes and you don't even notice it anymore.

Me, I prefer having the additional screen real estate. 🤷‍♂️
Or do as I do and use dark wallpaper and it almost completely disappears, or even completely gone. I agree, the extra space is worth it.
 
iJustines review was the best of the lot for sure. She put a bit of real world into it. Say what you will but she's on her game. But Maques Brownlee is the review I'm waiting for.
 
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...and being able to see the whole screen unobstructed is a bless.
Technically, you are seeing the whole screen unobstructed because there is no screen behind the notch. 😜

The LunarPro app, which is used to give access to HDR brightness whenever you want, has a feature where it blacks out the ears and moves the menubar below the notch, mimicking the 13" MBP's screen.
 
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Well, you don’t want them to get their MAIN MacRumors account suspended, do you?
I don't mean so much trolling but like general negativity that everything Apple does is bad. If I'm here it means I have some general interest and like for Apple products. It would be like me creating and account on an android forum just to say how bad it is and how terrible Google is.

Don't get me wrong there's lots I can complain about Apple. Some complaints probably would get me suspended so I know when to be quiet 😂 but overall it's mostly positive. If for some reason Apple did something I really hated and made me dislike their products I probably would just not post here. I guess I feel bad for someone that is just here to complain because maybe their life is a bit sad.
 
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She has 7 million subscribers on YouTube. Perhaps you are not her target audience. Have you thought about that?
I can only take iJustine in very small doses so yeah I bet he's not the targeted audience. She's more mainstream and less tech nerd.
 
At this point, about the only customer for that one is someone that simply doesn't want the M1 Pro and up, but absolutely 100% needs a fan. And unfortunately, if that's you (and I could fall into that category), you have to get a years old design with much worse camera, speakers, and mic.
For those customers that absolutely need a fan, I’d guess the design isn’t that much of a priority for them when choosing which MacBook to buy, much less of “worse camera, speakers, mic etc”. Me who needs a fan, doesn’t care much how nice the machine looks (MacBook Pro with a decade-old design still looks great compared to lots of windows laptops) when I’m doing my stuff, but appreciate the sustained performance due to having active cooling.
 
For those customers that absolutely need a fan, I’d guess the design isn’t that much of a priority for them when choosing which MacBook to buy, much less of “worse camera, speakers, mic etc”. Me who needs a fan, doesn’t care much how nice the machine looks (MacBook Pro with a decade-old design still looks great compared to lots of windows laptops) when I’m doing my stuff, but appreciate the sustained performance due to having active cooling.
Just curious but if you're doing something that maxes out the CPU for 10 min or more why would you buy the 13" Pro over the 14" Pro? By the time you go with 16 GB of RAM and even a small upgrade on the SSD to 512 GB it's close in price. Maybe for a company that was buying a hundred and got some saving there but I just don't see it for a user buying one.
 
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Fan. It’s all about fan.
Oh, and no notch.
I think the majority of people buying this will be Touch Bar fans and people who see the "Pro" name and want a "Pro" laptop but don't want to spend the $$$$ or really need one. Maybe some college kid who doesn't know much about computers and just sees the name.

I'm sure some will buy for the fan and no notch. Maybe people with the terrible 13" Intel MacBook pro wanting an upgrade and feel like this is the closest thing to what they already have.
 
Never dispoints to see the sexism in here by users having to constantly put down ijustine just because she general enjoys tech, even though she gave you a comparison most of you wanted. (14 inch to air.)

personally, having watched a bunch of the videos, I’m glad I’m waiting for there 14 pro m2. And no way I’d get midnight. Silver or starlight it is.
You're the sexist one. You're the only one who cares what's between her legs. The rest of us don't like mindless shills regardless of their sex.
 
Just curious but if you're doing something that maxes out the CPU for 10 min or more why would you buy the 13" Pro over the 14" Pro? By the time you go with 16 GB of RAM and even a small upgrade on the SSD to 512 GB it's close in price. Maybe for a company that was buying a hundred and got some saving there but I just don't see it for a user buying one.
Nothing fancy. Just keep lots of programs running in the background for quick Access and keeps lots of safari tabs open etc. No long term video encoding and that sort of stuff. Yet, I can see 77C CPU from time to time without me doing much. It’d be disastrous without a fan. (Slow down, throttling, all kinds of those stuff)

At the time of me purchasing that 13” MacBook Pro, I had two things in mind: 1. I want to truly see why Touch Bar is so hated and want to experience myself. 2. I don’t want butterfly keyboard, period. And I was aiming for 16GB Ram and 1TB internal ssd. I don’t do lots of stuff with large files, but I sync everything from cloud storage to local storage so I always have access to them even when I’m offline.

There were no 14” MacBook Pro back then, actually 6 months before it’s release, so between air and pro, I picked pro.
 
Man. Really tempted to get one of these— it’d be a no-brainer if I could connect 2 displays to it natively.
 
Seems like a deliberate decision on Apple’s part to segment these devices. Truth is they did me a favor ;)
I think you're right. It's meant to be the ultra portable laptop that happens to be relatively cheap if you get the base model. You'd probably be better served with the base model 14" MacBook Pro. Also don't overlook the mini but I would not buy one now. I think it's due for an upgrade. I know people who for some reason will buy a MacBook and it sits closed on their desk permanently. I never understood that.
 
I think you're right. It's meant to be the ultra portable laptop that happens to be relatively cheap if you get the base model. You'd probably be better served with the base model 14" MacBook Pro. Also don't overlook the mini but I would not buy one now. I think it's due for an upgrade. I know people who for some reason will buy a MacBook and it sits closed on their desk permanently. I never understood that.
I’m with you. I definitely have the itch to get an M-series Mac for personal use. I have a 16” M1 Max MBP that is owned by my employer; my Mac Mini is a 2018 Intel (solid Mac, but, you know. Apple Silicon envy :D ). I came really close to getting a Mac Studio. An M2 Pro Mac mini might be just right, but we’ll see ;)
 
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I’m with you. I definitely have the itch to get an M-series Mac for personal use. I have a 16” M1 Max MBP that is owned by my employer; my Mac Mini is a 2018 Intel (solid Mac, but, you know. Apple Silicon envy :D ). I came really close to getting a Mac Studio. An M2 Pro Mac mini might be just right, but we’ll see ;)
I had the 2018 mini and loved it... I had a terrible monitor that really hurt the experience but that's a different story. I didn't realize how bad it was till I got my 24" iMac. Now the iMac has been sold due to downsizing so waiting on the M2 Air. Typing this from my gaming PC 😛
 
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