And not long before we start seeing "universal mac app store" cracks. And if that's not bad enough, we'll have the influx of new users on here asking for help with their cracked applications. 
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Mac App Store Reportedly Set to Launch at Noon Eastern Time Tomorrow
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And not long before we start seeing "universal mac app store" cracks. And if that's not bad enough, we'll have the influx of new users on here asking for help with their cracked applications.
Just like we do with iTunes or the iOS store now???? I think you're making some big assumptions.
Cool, can't wait. I'm prolly just going to be sitting on the sidelines eating popcorn. Here's hoping that this app store doesn't get filled-up with fart apps and silly games. I dunno, going by Apple's list of restrictions, I doubt the MAS is going to sell any applications that interests me (or that I don't already own). Besides, if I really needed a specific program, wouldn't I have just downloaded it days to months ago (or owned it already)? It's not like this is a completely new platform. Hasn't the stuff that's going to be offered tomorrow already been available from days to years?
Maybe he's afraid the Mac App Store will become the only place to Mac apps. If that's the case, lots of people who use professional apps (like Adobe apps) will be out of luck. While I can see the possibility of Apple only doing this, it's just that: a POSSIBILITY.
Or, maybe he just doesn't like the app store for no particular reason. Whatever.
10.6.6 Today?
The Mac App Store requires 10.6.6 doesn't it?
At least that's what I thought. Can't remember a OS update in the morning, gotta be this afternoon. I'm sure they want those apps selling asap tomorrow!
The Mac App Store requires 10.6.6 doesn't it?
At least that's what I thought. Can't remember a OS update in the morning, gotta be this afternoon. I'm sure they want those apps selling asap tomorrow!
I find it irritating that all apps leave pref-files and folders after being uninstalled. It's also bad that some apps can be uninstalled by dragging to the trash while others have uninstallers.
There are some bad things with Windows, but the add/remove programs uninstaller isn't one of them. 
I think this is going to be amazingly convenient! For iLife, all I want is iPhoto and iMovie, done for $20. For iWork, can't wait for an update to Pages. Done $10. Think about all the software we'd like to try, but don't know where to look or compare or see what other's have said. I'm a huge fan of the evals in iTunes.
iWork better be updated though! This will be hugely successful!
Also, for the Greenies in the group, much better for the environment, less packaging, paper etc...
Coachingguy
iWork better be updated though! This will be hugely successful!
Also, for the Greenies in the group, much better for the environment, less packaging, paper etc...
Coachingguy
This is going to be great for developers.
App store is going to stop many people, including myself, from downloading cracked apps via pirate websites
Bye bye Piratebay
App store is going to stop many people, including myself, from downloading cracked apps via pirate websites
Bye bye Piratebay
This is going to be great for developers.
App store is going to stop many people from downloading cracked apps via pirate websites, including myself
Bye bye Piratebay
And why were you downloading cracked apps with the lack of an app store ? The fact is, most people don't want to pay for the applications they pirate. This isn't going to change the fact you need to pay.
Hmmm...didn't realize the App Store to be an actual app itself like iTunes is. Is that what you're saying. Just figured 10.6.6 would be needed to allow access to it. Is it an app that accesses an online market place separate from iTunes?
Just like we do with iTunes or the iOS store now???? I think you're making some big assumptions.And not long before we start seeing "universal mac app store" cracks. And if that's not bad enough, we'll have the influx of new users on here asking for help with their cracked applications.
Uh, yes? I don't see what your point is? I see a lot of people who just want help jailbreaking their iOS devices for the sake of piracy. They come here begging for someone to hold their hand, despite the fact that it's explicitly against the forum rules.
You think it's a big assumption that the same will happen for the mac app store? I don't see how it's a stretch.
On the contrary, I can see this as another success story. The app store is what propelled the iPhone and the the iPad successes. The Mac line has always languished. Yes year over year they increase market share but not to the degree of the portable devices. One holdback has always been the limited variety of software (especially business Apps) not to mention where to find it. This now makes it easier for those looking to switch or jump on the mac bandwagon. It is beneficial to those past Mac users in that the development pool should increase as well.
I see a nice gain in Mac sales this year. I would think when Lion is released that will propel this even more.
For all those scoffing at the idea of Mac Apps being difficult to install now, let's just review the possible options:
1. Download the DMG, double-click to mount (if not auto-mounted). Drag app to Applications folder (sometimes via a provided alias, but usually not), then unmount Disk Image and delete DMG file. Ease of use: Good. Intuitiveness: Not so good (especially for users coming from Windows). I can't even count the number of times I've seen someone running Skype or Firefox from the disk image every time, and then they trash the dmg file at some point thinking it's just a useless extra, and suddenly their app doesn't work any more. It's not a bad method, but it doesn't make sense unless there's good instructions in the download (some developers do a good job here, many don't).
2. Download the DMG, double-click to mount (if not auto-mounted). Double-click installer, follow directions. Ease of use: Good. Intuitiveness: Good. I think this is the best option currently, though of course the argument is that an installer is overkill for most apps.
3. Download a zip file, double-click to decompress, then drag resulting app to the Applications folder. Ease of use: Good. Intuitiveness: Fair. While this doesn't have the issues of the similar DMG method, it still doesn't automatically result in the app being installed correctly into the users Applications folder. Doesn't affect all apps, but it's still good practice for them to be there.
4. Purchase on disk, bring home, place in disk drive, run installer. Ease of use: Fair (only because of inconvenience of going to the store to purchase actual disk). Intuitiveness: Varies, but usually good. Adobe's apps get a poor rating in this regard, however, as their installer is a layer or two deep into the disk.
So while none of these are exceptionally difficult, the array of options (and I'm sure I missed a few) makes it a confusing process for users who are not tech-savvy, which is by far the majority of the population, and also the target market for this sort of product. The Mac App Store simplifies all of these steps into a simple click to install.
jW
1. Download the DMG, double-click to mount (if not auto-mounted). Drag app to Applications folder (sometimes via a provided alias, but usually not), then unmount Disk Image and delete DMG file. Ease of use: Good. Intuitiveness: Not so good (especially for users coming from Windows). I can't even count the number of times I've seen someone running Skype or Firefox from the disk image every time, and then they trash the dmg file at some point thinking it's just a useless extra, and suddenly their app doesn't work any more. It's not a bad method, but it doesn't make sense unless there's good instructions in the download (some developers do a good job here, many don't).
2. Download the DMG, double-click to mount (if not auto-mounted). Double-click installer, follow directions. Ease of use: Good. Intuitiveness: Good. I think this is the best option currently, though of course the argument is that an installer is overkill for most apps.
3. Download a zip file, double-click to decompress, then drag resulting app to the Applications folder. Ease of use: Good. Intuitiveness: Fair. While this doesn't have the issues of the similar DMG method, it still doesn't automatically result in the app being installed correctly into the users Applications folder. Doesn't affect all apps, but it's still good practice for them to be there.
4. Purchase on disk, bring home, place in disk drive, run installer. Ease of use: Fair (only because of inconvenience of going to the store to purchase actual disk). Intuitiveness: Varies, but usually good. Adobe's apps get a poor rating in this regard, however, as their installer is a layer or two deep into the disk.
So while none of these are exceptionally difficult, the array of options (and I'm sure I missed a few) makes it a confusing process for users who are not tech-savvy, which is by far the majority of the population, and also the target market for this sort of product. The Mac App Store simplifies all of these steps into a simple click to install.
jW
Hit the nail right on the head. I think the same type of people who will get the most use out of this are the same people who bought the 13" MBP simply because it said "Pro" instead of the regular Macbook (every hipster ever).
I think it's cool and everything, but every serious user has already got a source for those things. I'm excited just live everyone else because of the potential, but in practicality I feel like this will have absolutely 0 effect on the way I go about my business. I do know one thing though, I'm not looking forward to answering questions about where Pages citation manager is
.As for the people who are saying this is the end to piracy, let me just say that I have never met anyone at my university who pays for software, and I'm a 4th year computing student who volunteers at the campus computing repair store. I've never even seen anyone buy software. However, everyone I know has Office/iWork etc. This will do nothing to stop piracy, if people don't want to pay, they're not going to pay.
This. Try explaining to a novice Mac user what a "virtual volume" is. Not all apps contained in DMGs tell you to drag it to the App folder, and will act wonky/not work if launched from within the DMG. Some apps are smart and can tell if they're in the DMG, offering to move itself to the App folder for you. Unfortunately this is a rare feature.
Not to mention, doing all of that is just plain cumbersome. The faster DMGs die the better.
x13gamer said:
There is no such limit. It's all the Macs that you own. But I'd argue that the DRM will actually make it easier to pirate mac software for the sole reason that everything on the Mac store will be using the same DRM. If you crack one, you can crack them all. In fact, it's already been cracked.
Pretty sure it's all the Macs authorized with your Apple ID (via iTunes, or the Mac Store App, will probably carry over between the two). Currently, that's limited to 5 computers. So unless they change something, it's only on up to 5 computers.
jW