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The funny part is that C|Net is essentially a site for novice PC users, like that Dell user in high school who has no idea how to even open his computer. I'm serious, everytime you go to C|Net, you almost always end up getting stupider.

So, its not surprising you find those negative comments on there. The irony is that those C|Net users are probably the ones that really could use a Mac.
 
johnbro23 said:
A valid point made about the Mac mini:

Only 2 usb ports? You take up both of them with the keyboard and mouse.

That's not quite valid. The keyboard and mouse only take up one USB port, with a net loss of zero USB ports, as long as you're using a keyboard that has a two-port USB hub in it. Plug the mouse into the keyboard, plug the keyboard into the Mac mini, and you still have two free USB ports. :)

To add to the thread's topic:
"You can't build your own Mac."
(the argument against it may be a bit too complicated for the average Windows tolerator).
 
'If I used mac at home, I wouldn't be able to take documents from home and print them at school'

'To darn expensive'

'No floppy drive' (I hear this VERY often, even in the days of flash-storage)


-Squirrel
 
Random:

I was at dells website looking at there Plasma Tvs. If you take a "tour of one" theres a pic of the TV and then underneath it a 12" PB. I could tell from the color, slot loading drive visible, and the mac os 10 blue background. I suggest checking it out, its hillarious.
 
EJBasile said:
Random:

I was at dells website looking at there Plasma Tvs. If you take a "tour of one" theres a pic of the TV and then underneath it a 12" PB. I could tell from the color, slot loading drive visible, and the mac os 10 blue background. I suggest checking it out, its hillarious.
Do you have a link?

EDIT: Never mind, I found it. Don't forget, though, that Dell are trying to position themselves not only as a vendor of PCs, but also of consumer electronics. They probably don't care whether people who buy their plasma TVs are PC users or Mac users.
 
EJBasile said:
Random:

I was at dells website looking at there Plasma Tvs. If you take a "tour of one" theres a pic of the TV and then underneath it a 12" PB. I could tell from the color, slot loading drive visible, and the mac os 10 blue background. I suggest checking it out, its hillarious.

For those too lazy to go find the picture, here it is. Let me know if this wasn't what you were thinking of EJBasile.
 
EJBasile said:
Random:

I was at dells website looking at there Plasma Tvs. If you take a "tour of one" theres a pic of the TV and then underneath it a 12" PB. I could tell from the color, slot loading drive visible, and the mac os 10 blue background. I suggest checking it out, its hillarious.

i guess you means the ones pictured
here . They look like PBs (except with cheap silver plastic I think!) complete with the photoshopped Mac standard background...

But anyway...
"No one uses Macs" - eh? When in lemmingland... ;)
"They're not compatible with anything" - actually they're compatible with more things than Windows.
"You can't get Media Player/ Office/ (insert random Microsoft program here)" - yeah ya can - just that we don't need Media Player.
"There's no DOS (/other random lettering start-up screen)" - thats cause Apple know how to do a GUI properly - not everyone needs to see that.
 
Here are some good ones from Cnet about the mac mini.

"More of Steve's RDF spin,& a small box for what is essentially the guts of a 3 year old eMac, without a mouse, monitor, or keyboard. USELESS. For $500, I can get a complete Dell with twice the power."

""Buy into Obsolescence"

Its new on the market! Its gimmicky and it'll look good as a book end.

Cons: Small hardisk, no monitor, usb hub required making it as expensive if not more than a comparable PC. While appple make pretty computers, they must eventually come to realise that we are not all hairdressers! And even then its prettyness will be lost with all the external adaptors and accessories required to hang off the back."

"Looks pretty. Will probably fool a lot of people into trying the Mac experience and then be such a dog they regret it for life."

"I work in Photoshop on my WinPC all the time and need to be able to open images in the 2GB to 4GB size. My motherboard has 8GB installed RAM. I seriously doubt that you could do any real work with this system."

HAHAHAHA! I could keep going but wont. I suggest you guys do as one poster above said and head on over to Cnet to check these out!
 
Rod Rod said:
That's not quite valid. The keyboard and mouse only take up one USB port, with a net loss of zero USB ports, as long as you're using a keyboard that has a two-port USB hub in it. Plug the mouse into the keyboard, plug the keyboard into the Mac mini, and you still have two free USB ports. :)

Thats also not quite valid. 98% of keyboards do not have built-in USB hubs (like the Apple keyboard), so with the BYO KB/Mouse idea that Steve has, you end up with 0 ports, not even enough to plug a hub into (I hate plugging my mouse and keyboard into a hub).
 
Funniest thing happened a few hours ago.
I Windows using friend came to my house to get a DVD and when I was ejecting the DVD from my iMac he started complimenting on how cool it looked. Then out of nowhere he says, "Dude your computer doesn't even have a clock!" I was like, "WTF?!?! Look up dummy!" And just by pure coincidence a voice came out and said, "It is 1:00pm." My friend was floored that the computer actually had a clock AND told you what time it is every 15mins.

I thought it was quite funny.
 
It's hilarious how far these arguments are from the real truth. What do you expect? These statements are coming from PC users, who have already been duped into buying that piece of crap on their desk.

Daniel
 
Ill admit, that I used to be one of the mac haters. I wouldent inslut macs, but I still thought that they sucked. I had groundless arguments. The truth is, all of the Mac OS's up till X do have a lot of problems. I personally cant stand them, and would take windows ME (shudder) over them any day. What we really need is to tell these people to stop living in the past, and try the future.
 
My all time favourite

"If everyone owned a Mac then IT people would be out of a job" and this guy thought this was a vaild argument against Macs.

:rolleyes:
 
"Apple? Aren't they going out of business? Why would you buy a computer from a small-time company like that? You're rolling the dice with Jobs--one screw up and they'll be belly-up."

"Too expensive."

"For the rich and trendy fashionistas."

"Strictly for creative types--musicians, film/video, graphic designers. Meat-&-potatoes people use PCs."

"Apple still makes computers? I thought they just make iPods?!"

"But I've learned all these important skills--constantly loading new virus definitions to my AV program, defragging/optimizing my hard drive, scanning for spyware, updating XP service patches, hacking via command prompts when hardware installs go bad, and learning new interfaces for every new program. I am my own tech support guy now--I don't want to start over!"
 
From a lecturer I got: "Mac is a cult for mindless arty-farty wannbe types, with too much money to splash round, and way too much 'holier than thou' attitude".

When I started about OSX, he said, "It's just a f**king computer program, get over it! ... that a small dwindling % of people use ... so why are you an unpaid saleman for a closed platform, multination company with a lazy $5billion in the bank?"

He then ranted about the "stupid" one button mouse ... (I do use a 2button/wheel mouse, though)

Not a pleasant experience. I now avoid people when I sense any Mac-hatred in them.
 
sorryiwasdreami said:
"Everybody with a mac has to run Virtual PC on it so they can actually do stuff."

If "stuff" means "getting frustrated and angry at my computer" then the person who said that was right on.

I haven't updated the content for a while, but I've got a thing about this on my website.
 
Proprietary != standardized?!?!

solvs said:
"Macs are just toys... besides, they can't even play my favorite game." :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:
In a related vein, how about any business that refuses to buy or even try any solution from Apple, alleging that it's a "proprietary single-vendor closed system" (which it hasn't been for years, to what little extent it ever was), while at the same time they're buying into all-Microsoft-all-the-time (or worse, Sun!), justifying that strategy on the grounds of "standardization". :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :cool:

(-adapted from rueyeet's .sig here from ages ago. BTW, nice .sig yrself; and here I thought I'd been clever and original -- and/or mebbe you did too? Guess 'tis long past time I really got around to retiring it in favor of something fresher eneywho... :eek: )
 
I'm in grade 9 and recently we had to do a powerpoint presentation in our classes. I did it in keynote and brought my pb in to show it. I head two kids in my class talking about my pb and one said "Wow thats such a nice computer but its a mac so it sucks." he went on and some of the reasons 'macs suck' are because they dont work with any "common programs" and crash all the time. I just laughed.

I enjoy trying to get people to switch to mac. But some people are just so ignorant its not worth your time. I was happy to let them have to worry about all their viruses and spyware, and adware, and crashes, and blue screens of death - the list goes on.
 
You got off sort of lucky being able to use your own software and computer. I took a class (grad school mind you) where we didn't have a choice--Use PowerPoint or fail. I started off in Keynote--and made a kick ass presentation in 10 or 15 minutes. Then I spent the next 2 hours making sure it would look right in PowerPoint in Windows. Of course all the fonts that made it look so good wouldn't work in Windows--or they weren't stock and the teacher wouldn't have them when she viewed it.

I told the teacher I could give her a quicktime file that would do the same thing and look better than anything anybody else turned in. She told me just to do it in PowerPoint and then to be spiteful she gave me an A- in the class. I'd also shown her up on an assignment to create a website. She made a template with grossly outdated code and I fixed it for her. She didn't like that either.

My point is that the anti Mac bias is everywhere. You can't avoid it. This particular class was for teachers--teaching them how to use technology in the classroom. Macs are still really popular among teachers and it's basically what we all have. So to "teach" us how to use tech in our classrooms we had to use programs we don't normally use on a platform we don't normally use.

Windows/Office/Etc are so dominant that most people don't even realize there are competing products--even people who should know better. Even the people making the laws that will dictate how you can and can't use your computer don't necessarily know anything about technology. It's really scary.
 
"I've had my computer for a semester and it hasn't crashed. And it's not an Apple" - the silly first year as she admires her dell

"Are you sure you can use word? They can't be compatible with windows" and "Windows is used more, they must be better" - my dad, who means well and may yet turn

as a counterpoint "My next computer will be a Mac" - my fiance as she reboots her PC for the umpteenth time; also, "My next computer will be a Mac" as she prepares to take it into Best Buy for repair/replacement for the 4th time in 6 months
 
if you drop a mac and a pc, it is easier to put the pc back together...

whatever, if you drop a pc you will be on the phone to company support for hours, especially DELL who does not have a record, and the photoshop needing 4gb of ram, i am doing stuff with it with 384mb ram

Dr bognus :)
 
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