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Just like the Cube was a flop anything just like it will die the same slow painful death people don't buy them plain and simple.
The Cube failed because it was overpriced. A Cube at Mac mini prices would probably sell very well.
 
The Cube failed because it was overpriced. A Cube at Mac mini prices would probably sell very well.

Exactly, it was positioned at a price point higher than the low end Power Mac G4. From the posts in this thread a computer with specifications similar to an iMac sans the display would fill in the "don't want a Xeon workstation but want my own display and non-integrated graphics" niche. That said, who knows how Apple's marketing group have crossed off that type of computer?
 
I can sort of understand Apple's strategy with the iMac. It's an icon; a visual representation of Apple computers, much like the original classic shape was. What really, really annoys me is that you can only get iMacs with glossy displays. What idiot decided on that?

We need a new Mac at our office and an iMac might fit well, but due to the glossy display issue, I've recommended a mini instead. I've owned two minis personally and they're great little machines.
 
The Mini has got 30 days.. at most. Longer than then, and I'm spending my first pay packet on a Hackintosh..
 
If and when this new Mini headless Mac comes out I sure hope we see people lined up for blocks and waiting days in line to get one:rolleyes: Not! If these little boxes are in such hot demand why are all the store shelf's full of them?

I was in my local Micro Center the other day and happen to glance up at the top storage shelf which was full of little Mini boxes. Oh thats right they are over priced so no one wants them:rolleyes:
 
I can sort of understand Apple's strategy with the iMac. It's an icon; a visual representation of Apple computers, much like the original classic shape was. What really, really annoys me is that you can only get iMacs with glossy displays. What idiot decided on that?

We need a new Mac at our office and an iMac might fit well, but due to the glossy display issue, I've recommended a mini instead. I've owned two minis personally and they're great little machines.

why do people hate glossy? dont put it in the light. simple as that
 
why do people hate glossy? dont put it in the light. simple as that
Easier said than freaking done! All I have to do is wear a light colored shirt and I see its reflection, not to mention any windows or lights that are behind me.
 
If these little boxes are in such hot demand why are all the store shelf's full of them?
Which stores? Used Mac minis are really overpriced on eBay, indicating strong demand for affordable Macs, also indicating that brand new minis are under-specked and overpriced. When refurbished minis show up at the Apple Store, they're gone in a few hours.

I was in my local Micro Center the other day and happen to glance up at the top storage shelf which was full of little Mini boxes. Oh thats right they are over priced so no one wants them:rolleyes:
Gee, could that be because minis haven't been updated for over a year and the guts are technology from two years ago? Or that nobody shops for Macs at Micro Center? Or that the minis are on the top storage shelf out of site? :)
 
why do people hate glossy? dont put it in the light. simple as that

People don't really hate them its just the lunatics that come here to complain. One of the computers in my home is a Gateway One with glossy screen and I love it! it sits right next to the window and it looks great :) its easier to complain then say something positive.
 
Which stores? Used Mac minis are really overpriced on eBay, indicating strong demand for affordable Macs, also indicating that brand new minis are under-specked and overpriced. When refurbished minis show up at the Apple Store, they're gone in a few hours.


Gee, could that be because minis haven't been updated for over a year and the guts are technology from two years ago? Or that nobody shops for Macs at Micro Center? Or that the minis are on the top storage shelf out of site? :)

I guess you haven't been to a new Micro Center lately I happen to live just a few minutes away from the new Rockville Maryland store and the Apple section is fully stocked with everything they carry in the Apple store plus more! You can play with every Mac currently available for as long as you like.
 
Funny, there are all kinds of hopeful positive comments in this thread about the Mac mini, while others are very negative toward the general idea of an inexpensive headless Mac. Heaven forbid that someone should say anything negative about the "beloved" glossy iMac, in support of the thread topic.
 
Funny, there are all kinds of hopeful positive comments in this thread about the Mac mini, while others are very negative toward the general idea of an inexpensive headless Mac. Heaven forbid that someone should say anything negative about the "beloved" glossy iMac, in support of the thread topic.

Don't get your panties in bunch just relax :)
 
If and when this new Mini headless Mac comes out I sure hope we see people lined up for blocks and waiting days in line to get one:rolleyes: Not! If these little boxes are in such hot demand why are all the store shelf's full of them?

Maybe they're in such hot demand that MC just reloaded. :rolleyes:

I was in my local Micro Center the other day and happen to glance up at the top storage shelf which was full of little Mini boxes. Oh thats right they are over priced so no one wants them

Not really. There's more to a computer than its cpu, gpu and logic board. There's a certain value that's placed on footprint, silence and energy consumption. I'd like to see you find us any other computer out there that is equivalent to a Mini in terms of specs and features.

People don't really hate them its just the lunatics that come here to complain.

Pot calling Kettle; come in Kettle... :eek:

One of the computers in my home is a Gateway One with glossy screen and I love it! it sits right next to the window and it looks great :) its easier to complain then say something positive.

It's easy to complain about glossy displays if you do critical image work. The truth is, the glossy panels are much more difficult to calibrate with colorimeters, and almost impossible to calibrate using software (even Apple's very good Display Calibrator app). We've had three people in our camera club buy and return iMacs because they realized after their purchases that consistently getting faithful prints using a glossy paneled computer is nearly impossible.
 
Yeah, just configed it. Add in wireless and photo and video editing and it's more than the Mini by $69. You get an extra 40 gig of HD space, HDMI and X3100. Throw in the virus and spyware software (still essential for Windows) and you're almost to $1,000. The T5750 in the Dell has 2 mb cache while the T7200 in the Mini has 4 mb cache. It also doesn't support Intel Virtualization like the Mini's T7200 can.

Oh, and it doesn't have Bluetooth or digital optical audio input like the Mini does.

No thanks.


Yes, I saw it the first time. You seem to have a habit of double posting. I may be a cave man, but I'm not a rock head.
 
Yeah, just configed it. Add in wireless and photo and video editing and it's more than the Mini by $69. You get an extra 40 gig of HD space and X3100. Throw in the virus and spyware software (still essential for Windows) and you're almost to $1,000. The T5750 in the Dell has 2 mb cache while the T7200 in the Mini has 4 mb cache. It also doesn't support Intel Virtualization like the Mini's T7200 can.

No thanks.

But of course I didn't expect you to chime back in and say anything positive about it. You ask me to find a machine similar and I did! :) you don't buy these machines to do mission critical work just like you don't buy a Mini to do mission critical work. IE video editing etc. that's not what the Dell hybrid or the Mini is for of course you can do so if inclined but hey they are what they are :)

Yes, I saw it the first time. You seem to have a habit of double posting. I may be a cave man, but I'm not a rock head.

Don't get salty with me because his holiness lord Jobs only gives his loyal flock three desktop computers to choose from one being an outdated Mini :D
 
But of course I didn't expect you to chime back in and say anything positive about it.

Reread what I posted. I stated the benefits of the Dell (HD, HDMI and X3100). I also stated the benefits of the Mini.

You ask me to find a machine similar and I did! :) you don't buy these machines to do mission critical work just like you don't buy a Mini to do mission critical work.

I'll keep that in mind the next time I'm ready to launch a space ship.

Besides, if you have an xgrid-aware app, you could connect hundreds of Minis by firewire or ethernet and do distributed computing inside OS X. Can Windows Anything (Tm) do that?

IE video editing etc. that's not what the Dell hybrid or the Mini is for of course you can do so if inclined but hey they are what they are :)

The Mini is as good as any 2 gHz MacBook, MacBook Pro or iMac running at 2 gHz. That's the beauty of OS X.

What's particularly amazing (in my acerbic way of seeing things) is that it took Dell two years after the Mini's introduction to catch up with its competition.

You're asking would I rather have a Mini for $800 or the Dell for $1,000. To me, this is a no-brainer; I'll take the Mini.

Don't get salty with me because his holiness lord Jobs only gives his loyal flock three desktop computers to choose from one being an outdated Mini :D

I think you reap what you sow.

Well, lookie here. That T5750 in the Dell Studio Hybrid scores a 2268 at best, while the T7200 Mac Mini scores a 2591 on average. Go ahead, buy that Dell. It'll suit you well.
 
Reply :)

Yes, it like always amusing to read through a thread like this. :rolleyes:

And yes there is also: to learn. :confused:

You could say it's End Of Life for the Mac Mini because:


  1. Video:
    To have a machine that can accomodate more than one monitor.
    And to have all displays display 1024x768 minimum (or less) though being able to change the resolution, also. However, it would also have to use native pixel sizes on monitors with different native sizes. (For example leaving some black unused area of the screen.) This would be to accommodate for not using a built-in display. :p

  2. Size:
    Maybe because of the previous note the dimensions would make it less mini and more "Standard".
    • Though, there is also this way of using personal computers like servers. Where there would be a main place to plug in as many "new mac minis" possible. Think reference books size with capability to enhance/add to performance of a whole "main computer" or the main frame where all the mini/nanos plug in. Also though, to make it be able to 'plug-in' or slide in a display base. Think sub-notebook base with display :eek:
      Yes, it could have there own design. Or even plug into "robots"/stations that look different or are customizable.
      Think statues/mascots/toys? or even Asimo-devices-robots... ...:eek:
  3. Use:
    The use of the "Standard" can also be looked at as being an Systems Administrator. Though, the "toy factor" could bring in different ways/designs to (just) use a/the machine. :apple:
 
People don't really hate them its just the lunatics that come here to complain. One of the computers in my home is a Gateway One with glossy screen and I love it! it sits right next to the window and it looks great :) its easier to complain then say something positive.

As Repair Process Control Leader for Mobile and TV-LCD, I can assure you that the glossy display on the iMac is a major design flaw. However, everything else has been so awesome that I couldn't resist to acquire an iMac nevertheless.

However, I can understand anyone who disregards the iMac as an option because of the glossy abomination.
 
Dell Studio Hybrid

I can say from my own experience that the Dell Studio Hybrid is as silent as the Mac mini.

Windows Vista, on the other hand.... no comment. ;)
 
I still stand behind it, shut up and buy something else! oh my bad his holiness lord Jobs has not given his flock any other choices. "Mini - iMac - Pro" he sure is looking out for you Cave Man.

Few people believe there are no holes in Apple's lineup; after all, many of us have built hackintoshes. But to state that the Mini is somehow out of line in price and performance simply isn't true.
 
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