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I hope they never update the mini. Everyone knows that Combo drives and GMA 950 graphics is where it's at, man! :D
 
I honestly think they forgot about it. I mean what other explanation can there be? They haven't updated it, they haven't axed it.

They will update it on their own timeline now that they will throw events when THEY choose.

Some how I dont think you can "forget" about a product that costs/makes millions.
 
tss

what a joke! Another friggen laptop that nobody can afford. Another boring and useless Keynote. I just cannot understand what is going on @ Apple. Im glad they are pulling the plug on Macworld because if I sat through another lame ass software training course, i might just smash this ancient Powermac G4 into bits.

The current (dead) Mini is a P.O.S.

I guess people like me without a crap-ton of money to spend are just supposed to fall in line, accept what you are fed, and keep our mouths shut.
 
If apple won't update the mini the least they can do is drop the price of the current one. as it is now its WAY overpriced for what you get.

I was looking forward to purchasing a new mini cause my G4 mini is just struggling right now, and I don't want a imac cause I like my current screen and the mac pro is just too much money.
 
what a joke! Another friggen laptop that nobody can afford. Another boring and useless Keynote. I just cannot understand what is going on @ Apple. Im glad they are pulling the plug on Macworld because if I sat through another lame ass software training course, i might just smash this ancient Powermac G4 into bits.

The current (dead) Mini is a P.O.S.

I guess people like me without a crap-ton of money to spend are just supposed to fall in line, accept what you are fed, and keep our mouths shut.

Worst. Keynote. Ever.
 
what a joke! Another friggen laptop that nobody can afford.

Even ignoring the price aspect, I don't want a laptop.

I want a full-size keyboard and display. I'm working on a 24" widescreen Samsung with the same 1920x1200 resolution as that 17" screen on that laptop they announced. The difference is, the text is readable from a comfortable distance.

If the display craps out, I want to buy another one at Costco/Best Buy/Circuit City and pay $300 for it -- not take it to Apple for repair at an exorbitant price. Same thing with the keyboard. If it dies, or I spill a soda in it, I want to grab one of my half dozen spare keyboards, plug it in, and keep working, not have to schedule service on my computer.

Apple needs to address the non-laptop market. Right now, they have the mini, for $600-$800 and the Mac Pro, starting at over $2200 -- and nothing in-between. I don't need a quad core (or 8 core) Xeon. But I do want support for dual monitors (which the mac mini lacks). I don't need to be able to put 32GB of RAM in the system, but I'd like to put more than the 3GB that the mac mini can address.

Basically, I want a mac midi. I want something with a quad core i7 CPU in a mid-size tower case. I want enough room to put in two normal-size optical drives and at least two hard drives. I want ESATA on the back (don't give a rat's a$$ about Firewire 800), about 8 USB ports, dual DVI ports, and a decent, but not top-of-the-line, 3D video card (that I can upgrade when I'm ready to).

The current (dead) Mini is a P.O.S.

Totally have to disagree with you there. It's an innovate, elegant little system. I built a carrying case for mine and am using it on an extended business trip right now. It may not be the ultimate gaming, 3D rendering, or video editing system, but it is screaming fast compared to the single core systems that were common a couple of years ago. It's good enough to play OpenArena (Quake III open source) at 960x600 with decent frame rates. It's great for web surfing, e-mail, ripping CDs, encoding audio, or even running Photoshop.

Could it use an update? Sure. But in order to keep it small and quiet, it's still going to have to be based on notebook system technology.
 
Where are the people who will tell us that Macs are not for poor people and that you should just buy a Dell?

Those are my favorite MR users.

absolutely and i spotted a few of those already in another thread

Even ignoring the price aspect, I don't want a laptop.

I want a full-size keyboard and display. I'm working on a 24" widescreen Samsung with the same 1920x1200 resolution as that 17" screen on that laptop they announced. The difference is, the text is readable from a comfortable distance.

If the display craps out, I want to buy another one at Costco/Best Buy/Circuit City and pay $300 for it -- not take it to Apple for repair at an exorbitant price. Same thing with the keyboard. If it dies, or I spill a soda in it, I want to grab one of my half dozen spare keyboards, plug it in, and keep working, not have to schedule service on my computer.

Apple needs to address the non-laptop market. Right now, they have the mini, for $600-$800 and the Mac Pro, starting at over $2200 -- and nothing in-between. I don't need a quad core (or 8 core) Xeon. But I do want support for dual monitors (which the mac mini lacks). I don't need to be able to put 32GB of RAM in the system, but I'd like to put more than the 3GB that the mac mini can address.

Basically, I want a mac midi. I want something with a quad core i7 CPU in a mid-size tower case. I want enough room to put in two normal-size optical drives and at least two hard drives. I want ESATA on the back (don't give a rat's a$$ about Firewire 800), about 8 USB ports, dual DVI ports, and a decent, but not top-of-the-line, 3D video card (that I can upgrade when I'm ready to).

welcome to the club ... at least the good thing after macworld is the looking at non mac hardware stores in full anger ... and frankly currently it's ridiculous compared to mac desktops and to my surprise even in notebooks .. i just before found a HP notebook with a 9600 video, 4 gb of ram, hdmi out, eSATA and a blu-ray drive .. and actually 2 years of warranty included and for the roughly same price as the the old _white_ macbook ... if you take a fujitsu siemens with the 9300 and only subtract esata from before its 800 bucks

seriously 2 years ago apple could really compete in specs but now it's back in the lake of tears again
 
They will update it on their own timeline now that they will throw events when THEY choose.

A separate event just to announce an update to the mini? Unlikely. So why not announce it today, to at least bolster the impact of today's event? It doesn't really make any sense unless a mini update is not coming soon, or ever.
 
W-O-W.
Can I say this keynoted...

SUCKED

I mean DRM free iTunes music is cool, but the other stuff doesn't really effect me since I don't have a Mac. I was going to get one but since there isn't a new Mac mini (well you can guess the rest)...
 
They did not update any desktops today so that leaves me with hope. But if nothing by next week. It is officially dead IMO:(
 
W-O-W.


I mean DRM free iTunes music is cool, but the other stuff doesn't really effect me since I don't have a Mac. I was going to get one but since there isn't a new Mac mini (well you can guess the rest)...

What he said. I was all set to buy a new Mac Mini to use as a media center but today's keynote shows clearly that Apple is trading on the slavish loyalty of fanboys and girls that just keep pumping revenue into the company whatever they are served up.

As they say on Dragon's Den, I'm out. I'll buy a Dell hybrid.
 
They did not update any desktops today so that leaves me with hope. But if nothing by next week. It is officially dead IMO:(

If not next week then most likely in April. Maybe we can get an unexpected keynote presentation since Apple will be hosting their own events instead of relying on third party ones.
 
I think they would be foolish to wait until April. It has already been 518 days and the rest of the desktops are long over do. Unless they want their stock to sink faster then the titanic they need to pull something out of their magical hat.
 
I think they would be foolish to wait until April. It has already been 518 days and the rest of the desktops are long over do. Unless they want their stock to sink faster then the titanic they need to pull something out of their magical hat.

Actually if this were an iPod event it would be "Steve should pull something magical from his left pocket."
 
Noooooooo! Don't do it! Give it until April.
If you can't wait then by some crap, cheap PC to last you until then and get a Mini. If it's not upgraded I will owe you my life.

Wow! Now that's optimism....

I've a bid on a used Mac Mini on eBay to keep me willing to wait. This would be my first Mac and I sooo do not want to buy another PC so that is why today was so disappointing. :(
 
seriously 2 years ago apple could really compete in specs but now it's back in the lake of tears again

As someone who, a few years ago, was upgrading systems every few months, I'm finding that the performance offered by even semi-modern hardware (like Apple's) is more than adequate for 99.99% of anything one might reasonably want to do.

The first person shooter gaming market for computers is dying quickly and I never could tell see the point of 152 frames per second on a 60hz refresh rate monitor. I don't have kids, which means I don't have a camcorder surgically attached to my hand and an irresistible urge to make home videos to bore the living sh*t out of everyone I know -- so I don't need to do video editing. I don't do 3D rendered animation because it's tedious and pointless, unless you want to annoy people with Euro-techno soundtracks that seem to be a part of most 3D rendered animation.

People pay a premium for Mac hardware because it runs OS X. Like me, many of them are tired of Windows, which seems to get worse with each release. They are tired of dealing with Windows registry bloat, fragmentation, and inexplicable entries. They get annoyed with software installations puking files all over the system directories. They get pissed off that they have to cease trying new apps, reinstall the OS and all of the apps at least once a year, or tolerate a system that gets progressively slower and less stable. They get annoyed with having a command shell that has hardly progressed beyond what one could get in CPM/80. They get pissed off when they find that their system rebooted overnight, killing what they were working on, because Microsoft patched yet another "critical" security flaw. They get angry with having to choose between five different flavors of Vista. They don't like that any hardware change might result in the OS deciding that it needs permission from Microsoft to keep functioning. The list goes on and on, but I've been with Microsoft since they sold nothing but BASIC interpreters for 8-bit systems -- and I'm tired of them. If I have to pay more and get lower performance hardware, so be it.
 
Well, would you look at that. My "Mac Pro: 518 days" ranting has evolved into a thing! It seems like people start thinking a product is EOL once it hits that magical number. :D

In that case it should be number of days not months for the mini..
 
Good freakin' grief.

The one big thing I was hoping for in the keynote didn't happen.

What else did happen was entirely anti-climactic.

I doubt anything else will be said AT the convention, it will be next week at the least.

But my bigger question. If not today, WHY ON EARTH wasn't the MacMini refreshed BEFORE CHRISTMAS!!!!

People were waiting to see if MacWorld Keynote brought this update. MBP 17 was fairly expected, a speed bump of iMac expected, and MacMini was being waited for.

One of two things will likely happen.

Low-key update next week, or in the next couple of weeks. If so, WHY, and again, why not during the Christmas gift-buying season?

This machine may have been mocked up (rumors of new hardware tag numbers, etc...), but for some reason still gets the axe, and goes nowhere. WHY cancel a high-value product in an economic downturn?

I guess we'll see. Or I'll build a hackintosh.... Apple's got it's head screwed on backwards or something.

Not pleased with 'getting' to support the new MBP 17s in the future, with non-user-serviceable anything, either. Nice computer, support takes a large step back, though. And it is still hella-expensive, but people seem to forget that it pretty much always has been.
 
Bit boring - the keynote speaker was good although i thought the guy doing the iMovie stuff was very good as well.

but no new hardware!!!!!!! i mean a MBP and thats it??:mad:what is up with that. hardware should normally be more interesting than the software in my case, and it was complete opposite. although im using office 2008 for mac at the moment because i was able to get the full version for £17.50 or something from my dads office, otherwise i was going to go for iWork '09

but ranting again - no new iMac's/Pro's/Mini's. :mad::mad::(
:mad::apple::mad:
 
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