jdawg4324 said:
How often do companies release things 6 months ahead of schedule and less than 1 month after anouncing the schedule? I'm generally impressed if a company can even release something on time
*cough* Dual 3.0Ghz G5 PowerMac */cough* 
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How often do companies release things 6 months ahead of schedule and less than 1 month after anouncing the schedule? I'm generally impressed if a company can even release something on time
*cough* Dual 3.0Ghz G5 PowerMac */cough* 
I don't know man, I don't buy it.
Thinksecret said mini updates are "nowhere" in sight from insiders and I trust TS more than even Macrumors for most stuff (sorry guys!).
One thing is for sure though, the mini is in desparate need of a bump in RAM & a stronger Graphics card--32MB just doesn't cut it these days in OS X land. Here's hoping for an update!
Thinksecret said mini updates are "nowhere" in sight from insiders and I trust TS more than even Macrumors for most stuff (sorry guys!).
One thing is for sure though, the mini is in desparate need of a bump in RAM & a stronger Graphics card--32MB just doesn't cut it these days in OS X land. Here's hoping for an update!
jdawg4324 said:
Well, that's not quite what was said, IIRC. SJ said that the first Intel based models would ship in early 2006, sometime shortly before the next WWDC. And they would finish their transition on all the product lines by the end of 2007, with the Power Mac and the xServe being the last to transition. So, it seems that the odds of this being an Intel machine are slim to none.
yeah....
guy could be lying, kinda odd if it only happens to ONE person...
Now, with this weird media event thingy coming up, though....
but a special media event for a speedbumped mini/ibook? doesn't seem like it. Or a redesigned mini/ibook? no, that'll come in a year.
It's tempting to try and put the pieces together, but too likely to go wrong. I'm not gonna try.
guy could be lying, kinda odd if it only happens to ONE person...
Now, with this weird media event thingy coming up, though....
but a special media event for a speedbumped mini/ibook? doesn't seem like it. Or a redesigned mini/ibook? no, that'll come in a year.
It's tempting to try and put the pieces together, but too likely to go wrong. I'm not gonna try.
jope76 said:Dammit, I just canceled my order, I had to. Have been waiting and waiting, figured "what the hell" and ordered two days ago, but now I have to wait to july 7... But no longer than that!!
for a page two rumor? dude, you've got an itchy trigger finger.
Mac mini update
Well , it looks like I am going to find out for myself soon, just ordered the basic mini with the addition of some ram, and airportcard, for my wife to use, and it is estimated being build at 04/07/2005, this is the 4th of july by the way. I know this is independence day in the US, but the plants here in europe (and I am guessing my mini will be assembled in Ireland) will be open, so we'll see what will happen. Perhaps it will be a new model...but if not, it's no problem, the current mini is capable of more things than my wife will ever use it for.
Well , it looks like I am going to find out for myself soon, just ordered the basic mini with the addition of some ram, and airportcard, for my wife to use, and it is estimated being build at 04/07/2005, this is the 4th of july by the way. I know this is independence day in the US, but the plants here in europe (and I am guessing my mini will be assembled in Ireland) will be open, so we'll see what will happen. Perhaps it will be a new model...but if not, it's no problem, the current mini is capable of more things than my wife will ever use it for.
eXan said:
eMac isn't a higher end machine. Its a low end machine with a monitor built in.
And they could easily add a high end LAPTOP GPU into the thing which runs much cooler then its desktop counterpart. My hope?
-5400 RPM drives across the board (w/ optional 7200)
-512MB standard.
-64MB ATI Radeon 9600 Mobile version
-Maybe a bump up to 1.5Ghz for the high end option. (Depends on heat though.)
-1 extra USB port on the back
-1 FireWire 800 port.
I was just thinking about the comment someone made regarding the mini matching the eMacs specs when it was released, and now that there has been an eMac upgrade...
The eMac only comes in one CPU speed now, and the models are seperated by RAM, HDD, and optical drive config. Maybe this is where they will go woth the mini? $499 gets you a 1.42ghz CPU (w/ 9600/64mb GPU), 256mb RAM (single slot still), 40gb HD, and a Combo drive. You could pick and choose upgrades, or get a 'pre-upgraded' model with 512mb RAM, SD, 80gb HDD, and a SD (use up some old stock of 4x single layer drives maybe?) for $599... Would be especially keen if they integrated AP and BT onto the mobo for hte higher end model, but that's a lot to ask for $100 upgrade.
This would be a good move in my opinion, as you can't walk into an Apple store and pick up a 'ready to go' out of the box mini. They all need RAM, or you may need a SD, or APE, etc. You basically have to BTO it then, taking away even the option of buying one on the spot for a lot of people.
Apple also needs to build some bundle deals around the mini. Make a package of a mini + 20" ACD + keyb/mouse and sell it at a decent discount, but in store only. Get people into the retail stores for one thing. Plus may make people look at a mini a little harder if they can get a decent deal on the whole package. Sell it with a good enough price and you may get some people who are looking at buying an ACD and decide to upgrade to a package to get the discounted mini.
maybe make them edu special promotion packages... I'm thinking that a base mini ($479) + 20" display ($699) + keyb/mouse ($52) = $1230 discounted to $999 would sell like mad.
The eMac only comes in one CPU speed now, and the models are seperated by RAM, HDD, and optical drive config. Maybe this is where they will go woth the mini? $499 gets you a 1.42ghz CPU (w/ 9600/64mb GPU), 256mb RAM (single slot still), 40gb HD, and a Combo drive. You could pick and choose upgrades, or get a 'pre-upgraded' model with 512mb RAM, SD, 80gb HDD, and a SD (use up some old stock of 4x single layer drives maybe?) for $599... Would be especially keen if they integrated AP and BT onto the mobo for hte higher end model, but that's a lot to ask for $100 upgrade.
This would be a good move in my opinion, as you can't walk into an Apple store and pick up a 'ready to go' out of the box mini. They all need RAM, or you may need a SD, or APE, etc. You basically have to BTO it then, taking away even the option of buying one on the spot for a lot of people.
Apple also needs to build some bundle deals around the mini. Make a package of a mini + 20" ACD + keyb/mouse and sell it at a decent discount, but in store only. Get people into the retail stores for one thing. Plus may make people look at a mini a little harder if they can get a decent deal on the whole package. Sell it with a good enough price and you may get some people who are looking at buying an ACD and decide to upgrade to a package to get the discounted mini.
maybe make them edu special promotion packages... I'm thinking that a base mini ($479) + 20" display ($699) + keyb/mouse ($52) = $1230 discounted to $999 would sell like mad.
lizard79 said:
By how much? Put your numbers where you mouth is. ATI is moving away from PCI at this point. Their X series is well above the 9600 series. Unless you can find me numbers that state the 9200 is drastically cheaper then the 9600 mobile version I call BS.
You DO realize that ThinkSecret is the site that didn't post a single rumor about the transition to Intel- even after it was all over the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and every reputable news source on planet earth. In fact I have yet to see a decent rumor come out of that site since they were sued.JDOG_ said:
And no, the rumor "Mac Mini's not expected soon" does not count. Don't give me rumors about something not happening, give me ones about something that WILL be released!No it's quite obvious that Steve has gelded ThinkSecret. They probably signed an agreement whereby Apple's PR department gets to read and approve every ThinkSecret rumor before it's posted.
so long as they have 5400rpm/8mb cache or better hard drives, i'll pick up whatever the new $499 model is.
i just can't hang with those 4200rpm drives. slow booting, slow app launching, slow saving, and everything else.
i just can't hang with those 4200rpm drives. slow booting, slow app launching, slow saving, and everything else.
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Ravenflight said:You DO realize that ThinkSecret is the site that didn't post a single rumor about the transition to Intel- even after it was all over the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and every reputable news source on planet earth. In fact I have yet to see a decent rumor come out of that site since they were sued.
Did you see the new ThinkSecret exclusive? "Apple not expected to release two-button mouse next Monday."
About the Mac mini note that was published on macbidouille.com: I'm surprised that someone in France is getting a status message in English. When I was in France and ordered things from Apple, I think I remember the order status messages being in French, unless I just have a faulty memory.
In any case, on the Macbidouille forums , the guy who originally received the message says that his order has now changed to MAC MINI 1.42 CTO (instead of MACMINI 1.42GHZ/512/80GCMD/F) with an estimated delivery of 07/07 (instead of 11/07), and the status is "Sent to Manufacturing". I don't know if that means anything, but for whatever reason that's what the order status page is telling him now.
adamjay said:
I feel the same way, except that I will get one either way... having a 5400rpm drive would be great, but I am going to buy one of those mini-mate FW HD enclosures w/ FW and USB hub built in regardless, so the speedier internal drive would be just a small perk.
jared_kipe said:
How can you say the imac updates haven't been impressive? Did you miss the last update? Last update to the imacs included: airport AND bluetooth installed in EACH model, MORE RAM (up from 256, yes it could be more but this was an upgrade), MORE graphic memory (up from 64 to 128mb), larger hard drives (160GB is standard), gigabit ethernet on all models (this was big for me and why I just bought 7 of them), faster processor, and faster dvd burner and dual layer on the two top end models.
What else is there TO upgrade on the imacs? I will give you the emac is not impressive but the last imac upgrade was huge. I only hope the mini upgrade is as nice. I suspect, given the recent intel switch announcement, Apple will have to role out the best upgrades to keep product moving. Maybe eat some profit margin in the short term to keep stock moving out - at least I hope so.
Plecky said:
I'm not with you. If you check rumor sites you should know to NEVER buy a month before a major event like WWDC and Mac Worlds (or what ever the Boston show is being called). An expo happens in Paris in the fall but typically that hasn't seen too many major announcements. I just bought 7 imacs but those were updated in April so the odds of an update happening again in June or July was slim. Mac minis, Power Macs, laptops ALL have a good chance to be upgraded in July - esp. given the switch to intel announcement. Apple can't keep selling the same old models and expect to move product (inventory is a big hit on the earnings of a company). I am going to wait until after July 11th to buy 6 new minis.
As to the mini and the graphic card expect an upgrade because Tiger will need it to run nicely - esp. by the time 10.4.8 is out. Also expect to see a firmware update. This may not mean supporting more RAM, instead the firmware will change so you can't run Panther on the mini. This happened on the imacs and tech support told me to expect this on all new model macs shipping with Tiger pre-installed.
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In any case, on the Macbidouille forums , the guy who originally received the message says that his order has now changed to MAC MINI 1.42 CTO (instead of MACMINI 1.42GHZ/512/80GCMD/F) with an estimated delivery of 07/07 (instead of 11/07), and the status is "Sent to Manufacturing". I don't know if that means anything, but for whatever reason that's what the order status page is telling him now.[/QUOTE]
That is what my order status says too, we'll see what that CTO means....
In any case, on the Macbidouille forums , the guy who originally received the message says that his order has now changed to MAC MINI 1.42 CTO (instead of MACMINI 1.42GHZ/512/80GCMD/F) with an estimated delivery of 07/07 (instead of 11/07), and the status is "Sent to Manufacturing". I don't know if that means anything, but for whatever reason that's what the order status page is telling him now.[/QUOTE]
That is what my order status says too, we'll see what that CTO means....
UK shipping etc
Just for your info, UK Mac Mini's are BTO in Czech Republic, shipped to Luxembourg, then via Belgium to the Netherlands, & finally imported to the Tewkesbury Apple depot (sometimes Luton) & judging by the time it took from shipping to actually getting it, I would guess it came by donkey post.
Go mini updates!
Incidently I overclocked my 1.25 to 1.42, stuck in a 7200 rpm Hitachi (7K60) HD & 1Gb of ram - Xbenched at 137. (1.5Ghz with same hardware xbenched in at 139.85, o/c a 1.42 to 1.5 or 1.58 (because it has bigger heatsink) will get you similar Xbench result to 1.8Ghz G5 imac running in Auto
k2k koos said:
Just for your info, UK Mac Mini's are BTO in Czech Republic, shipped to Luxembourg, then via Belgium to the Netherlands, & finally imported to the Tewkesbury Apple depot (sometimes Luton) & judging by the time it took from shipping to actually getting it, I would guess it came by donkey post.
Go mini updates!
Incidently I overclocked my 1.25 to 1.42, stuck in a 7200 rpm Hitachi (7K60) HD & 1Gb of ram - Xbenched at 137. (1.5Ghz with same hardware xbenched in at 139.85, o/c a 1.42 to 1.5 or 1.58 (because it has bigger heatsink) will get you similar Xbench result to 1.8Ghz G5 imac running in Auto
