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invaLPsion said:
MacOSRumors predicted the release of this seed this morning.

And they were correct!

They also have been saying that powermacs depend on 10.3.3 for their release.

Could they be correct about that too?

POWERMAC UPDATES ARE IMMINENT.

10.3.3 = Powermacs!

that would also explain why they haven't just released it and are polishing it as much as possible :)
 
invaLPsion said:
MacOSRumors predicted the release of this seed this morning.

And they were correct!

They also have been saying that powermacs depend on 10.3.3 for their release.

Could they be correct about that too?

POWERMAC UPDATES ARE IMMINENT.

10.3.3 = Powermacs!

Naw, don't get your hopes up. Judging by www.apple.com, Apple isn't a hardware company anymore. They are only into software and thingy's. :eek:
 
What's with the newbie comments?

dloomer said:
I don't remember Keychain for AFP ever working (in Panther at least -- not sure about Jaguar), but sounds like good news.
Hmmm... I've been using AFP with keychain passwords without any problem since upgrading to 10.3. (Remember, you have to turn on the option for each share you connect to.)



dashiel said:
there was apparently a serious bug in one of the earlier releases that affected imacs. i assume/hope apple is being a bit more careful these days after the itunes/10.2.7(?)/itunes win mishaps.
The bug you're referring to, which affected 20" iMacs, was only in the initially-seeded build of 10.3.3 and was never released to the public. And 10.2.7 was never offered via the SWU panel because it was a compatibility release for the G5 hardware, not for other Macs.



gopher said:
Still waiting for the http://www.macmaps.com/firewirebug.html
to be fixed.
Umm... that's been resolved, to the best of my knowledge.



invaLPsion said:
MacOSRumors predicted the release of this seed this morning.

And they were correct!

They also have been saying that powermacs depend on 10.3.3 for their release.
Wow, it's amazing that they were able to "predict" the new build a day after it was released to developers. Don't trust MOSR. They fictionalize, lie, cheat and re-date articles. They haven't been accurate or trustworthy for more than three years.

As for the release date of 10.3.3 or new Power Macs... they'll arrive when they arrive, no sooner.
 
gopher said:
Two places to go to if you want to report a bug:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
http://bugreporter.apple.com/ (free registration required)
Thanks for the link to Apple's Bug Reporter service. I added it to my bookmarks and plan to use it to report a bug in QuickTime related to MIDI playback. Anyway, back on topic, I'm looking forward to having the network share bugs fixed. Those have been driving me crazy! For example, if I'm connected to a Mac OS 9 machine while my computer goes to sleep, when it wakes up again, I get 5 disconnected messages. Why is this? Surely only one message is needed, not FIVE.
 
invaLPsion said:
If the update is released on tuesday I be we'll see powermacs on that day or a week after. I say this because numerous rumor sites are claiming that 10.3.3 is required for the 90nm G5 and many of the new features like XT graphics cards, 8x superdrives, and dual optical drives.

I wonder how often I will have to read this, before everyone knows. Please understand: there is no XT version of the 9800 for the Mac. The announced special edition is just the 256MB version but is still slower than the 9800XT which is another card (with a faster bus, for example).
 
mustang_dvs said:
Wow, it's amazing that they were able to "predict" the new build a day after it was released to developers. Don't trust MOSR. They fictionalize, lie, cheat and re-date articles. They haven't been accurate or trustworthy for more than three years.

Well they were correct a month ago when they said that powermacs would not come out until March or April. If they are correct about Powermacs coming out within 7-10 days or at the release of 10.3.3 you have to eat your words about MOSR.

mustang_dvs said:
As for the release date of 10.3.3 or new Power Macs... they'll arrive when they arrive, no sooner.

That sounds like a "newbie" thing to say. Lets have some fun speculation here.
 
Veldek said:
I wonder how often I will have to read this, before everyone knows. Please understand: there is no XT version of the 9800 for the Mac. The announced special edition is just the 256MB version but is still slower than the 9800XT which is another card (with a faster bus, for example).

I know this, but there are rumors of the XT cards becoming available for the mac with the release of the new G5s, which is what I was refering too.
 
invaLPsion said:
I know this, but there are rumors of the XT cards becoming available for the mac with the release of the new G5s, which is what I was refering too.

And how probable is it, that ATI announces the 9800SE to be released soon (most probably together with Power Mac updates) but doesn't say anything about the XT cards (which would make this Special Edition rather obsolete by the way)? Think about it.
 
mustang_dvs said:
As for the release date of 10.3.3 or new Power Macs... they'll arrive when they arrive, no sooner.
Wow, is that a quote or what!
With that in mind, who needs to surf rumour sites?
 
Veldek said:
And how probable is it, that ATI announces the 9800SE to be released soon (most probably together with Power Mac updates) but doesn't say anything about the XT cards (which would make this Special Edition rather obsolete by the way)? Think about it.

Not if they release 9600XTs with radeon 9800SEs for the top of the line.
 
Photorun said:
Also let me pick ink colors and settings for my Epson 880 like in 10.2 would be great (10.3 took this away :mad:) but maybe I'm being greedy.
I had a similar problem with my printer (HP deskjet 5652) where I lost printer quality settings when I upgraded to Panther. I think this is because Panther includes drivers for these printers as default, so it probably had overwritten the old driver (which I had to install as it wasn't part of Jaguar). I fixed this problem by downloading the latest driver for the printer from the HP website - it may not be the same one as Apple includes with the OS. Now I have full functionality again (although I'm sure it doesn't print as fast anymore :confused: )
 
dloomer said:
I can hear a collective sigh of relief from everyone as far as the desktop/sidebar mounting as well.

Sounds like the networking update we've been waiting for forever (and quite frankly, should have been in 10.3.0).

I don't understand what this desktop/sidebar volume mounting business is all about? Every time I connect to a network or another computer it mounts on the desktop and in the sidebar for me. I'm sure there are other issues that need to be addressed that might be causing this for some people.

About printing there is one thing that really, really bugs me. When you print.... if you want to switch the orientation to Landscape or Portrait you have to go to Page Setup.. which I ALWAYS forget about. It's not in the Print dialog. When the Print dialog comes up there are so many options and there is no reason it can not be done from there. You can go to Layout Options in the Print dialog but you can't change the orientation? Come on now. I really would like to know the reasoning behind this.

Oh, and when typing in textfields like this one if you could undo your mistakes (cmd-z).... like the one I just made and forgot what I typed previously, that would be great.. "mmmm yeaaaaaa" (b. lumberg).
 
Light Scribe updates?

My prediction is that new powermacs, and new powerbooks are going to have lightscribe (www.lightscribe.com) enabled superdrives.

So the question is, has anyone seen a new IDVD, or ITunes that will support the lightscribe drives?

I think this will be key because, first it is cool. :cool:

Second it will help differentiate the power lines from the economy lines. This will allow superdrives without lightscribe to make it to the i lines...

Third this becomes payback of sorts to HP...

Now rumour amongst yourselves....
 
bit density said:
My prediction is that new powermacs, and new powerbooks are going to have lightscribe (www.lightscribe.com) enabled superdrives.

SNIP

This would be way cool, but I don't think its going to happen anytime soon because of so many issues with all their lines, an additonal complexity is not a good idea.
 
Here's something to ponder:
I am in the process of doing a rather large purchase of Macs. I was told that the lease has to be submitted, and PO's prepared, by NEXT Friday, because after the the interest rate goes from zero to 1.9%. Such an odd date to use, isn't it, March 19th? I don't chase the newest stuff, so I really don't care if I can take advantage of a Mac revision, but remember where you read that date!
 
aswitcher said:
This would be way cool, but I don't think its going to happen anytime soon because of so many issues with all their lines, an additonal complexity is not a good idea.

Ok isn't way cool enough?

The reason I think this would work, is that it adds very little cost to the drives. Certainly less than the gains in costs that have been had in the last year in superdrives.

IDvd, and Itunes in the OS, make the drives more useful than they will be on the PC. All you need is some drivers and and some cool layouts. I think this well within Apple's strengths. It provides NO meaningful difference to the manufacturing model.


Apple gets to sell some media for awhile at least in the stores, and online. Anything that keeps the customer coming to the store is good!

It is cool enough that I think that you can put superdrives in the ibooks, and still draw people to the Powerbook for this feature alone. (Meaning that customers will overpay for the feature, and that apple will make more money).

It is something new and cool in the interim before VPC 7.0 and other programs to get full g5 compatability.

It gives a reason to upgrade to new powerbooks while waiting for the g5 to make it.

Complexity of sorts, is what drives product differentiation. Which is core to Apple's business model.

This is way easier to introduce than a whole bunch of other features, like a g5 powerbook, and a 3G g5. It will provide further differentiation between mac and PC's.

And it repays a favor to HP. I don't know, I may be wrong... But I know I would upgrade based on this feature. And this is just based on what I use my computer for....
 
Printer Problems here - solved

johnnyjibbs said:
I had a similar problem with my printer (HP deskjet 5652) where I lost printer quality settings when I upgraded to Panther. I think this is because Panther includes drivers for these printers as default, so it probably had overwritten the old driver (which I had to install as it wasn't part of Jaguar). I fixed this problem by downloading the latest driver for the printer from the HP website - it may not be the same one as Apple includes with the OS. Now I have full functionality again (although I'm sure it doesn't print as fast anymore :confused: )

I had the same problem. I have a HP 1220 C Deskjet. Only the CUPS printer (much crappier driver) was available compared to the custom HP driver after upgrading to 10.3 from 10.2.8. Now:

1. There was SUPPOSED to be a new driver version in 10.2.3 for this printer (there was but it DID NOT LOAD CORRECTLY WHEN THE OS INSTALLED).

2. HP DOES NOT have this newest version on their website because it is IN the OS X 10.3 CD install. Only the older driver for 10.2.x is/was on their website. It worked with cosmetic issues, so I could at least print after I figured that out, but it wasn't the newest driver.

3. I was able to completely fix all of my outstanding bugs by doing a COMPLETE backup and reinstall (totally clean) of 10.3. I then transferred email, etc. I RECOMMEND THIS FOR EVERYONE. Even the correct HP Deskjet driver WAS installed when I went this route.


I have had no unusual system crashes, freezes, wierd icon activity, hanging programs, printer problems etc. after the CLEAN install after writing zeroes to my hard drive. For whatever reason, the "archive and install - or whatever it was" option from the CD installer did not work properly for me and many other people. I did NOT choose the "upgrade" path - that appears even worse.

I've had this fresh install with all of my software installed for ~2+ months now and all is nearly perfect. (I don't do network filesharing, so I don't know about those bugs). I'm quite happy now. The only crashes I have are rare ones every few hours plaing Medal of Honor when someone does something wierd with the server on the other end. No effect on the OS as a whole.
 
xenotek said:
I recently installed upwards of 700 fonts and suddenly neither safari, ichat, nor apple's mail would work for morer than a few seconds before crashing. I thought it might be the fonts, so I took them out and the iapps started to work properly again. Does Panther have a limit for the number of fonts displayed in a menu? They should really work this issue out in the next update.

i have over a 1000 fonts and never had that problem, photoshop is a bit slow, but all my other apps work great. My 2 cents

Jr
 
bit density said:
Ok isn't way cool enough?

SNIP

And it repays a favor to HP. I don't know, I may be wrong... But I know I would upgrade based on this feature. And this is just based on what I use my computer for....

I agree its not a big hurdle, I just wonder if its a bit early to think of more innovation when their iMac and PB lines are getting old and I think the time would be better spent getting signficant improvements in base hardware...then again I like gadgets

I wouldn't buy a G4 PB rev C just for this (and other minor improvements), but it would be a nice "gadget" and if it were an option I would pony up for it on the G5PB and advise others to do liekwise for their machines. Its a sweat solution to an old problem and Apple could do a fab job with templates and the like to make the art attractive.

I do wonder of the media would be extra expensive and hard to get overseas (where I am).
 
mustang_dvs said:
The bug you're referring to, which affected 20" iMacs, was only in the initially-seeded build of 10.3.3 and was never released to the public. And 10.2.7 was never offered via the SWU panel because it was a compatibility release for the G5 hardware, not for other Macs.

Good point - and I've heard this before.

But I am of the curious in nature: specifically, what on earth was happening to those 20" iMacs that was so horrific?
 
xenotek said:
I recently installed upwards of 700 fonts and suddenly neither safari, ichat, nor apple's mail would work for morer than a few seconds before crashing. I thought it might be the fonts, so I took them out and the iapps started to work properly again. Does Panther have a limit for the number of fonts displayed in a menu? They should really work this issue out in the next update.

do you need all fonts loaded at once? we usually load fonts as needed.
suitcaseX will autiomatically load fonts when a doc needs to access them.
it taxes the system to have all fonts loaded at one time.
 
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