Mac OS X 10.3.3 (7F43) Seeded

[Veldek]

Not if they release 9600XTs with radeon 9800SEs for the top of the line.

I just don't think that ATI releases only one XT card without the other as it is the top line.

 

[Zaty]

The fact, that Apple keeps releasing new interim seeds, can IMHO mean two things, first, and that seems to be obvious, they want to get it right this time and secondly, (provided that Rev B PM G5s do need 10.3.3) couldn't it also mean, that the new PMs are not yet ready for release and won't be announced for some time. Don't they have to finalise the OS update at least a few days, if not weeks, before the new machines are being shipped in order to create OS images and restore CDs/DVDs for the new revision? So I think, as long as the final 10.3.3 is not released, the launch of new PMs can't be iminent.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

My prediction is that new powermacs, and new powerbooks are going to have lightscribe (www.lightscribe.com) enabled superdrives.

So the question is, has anyone seen a new IDVD, or ITunes that will support the lightscribe drives?

I think this will be key because, first it is cool.

Second it will help differentiate the power lines from the economy lines. This will allow superdrives without lightscribe to make it to the i lines...

Third this becomes payback of sorts to HP...

Now rumour amongst yourselves....

I've never heard of these before but they look really cool! I want one!!!

Question though: presumably it uses up ink or something to burn that on - where/how do you refill?

 

[MCCFR]

I've never heard of these before but they look really cool! I want one!!!

Question though: presumably it uses up ink or something to burn that on - where/how do you refill?

From what I read, the media is coated in a photo-sensitive material which is etched by a laser source.

So the answer is no ink, no refill.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

From what I read, the media is coated in a photo-sensitive material which is etched by a laser source.

So the answer is no ink, no refill.

So, the answer is no ink, but bloody expensive blank discs. I see.

 

[wordmunger]

do you need all fonts loaded at once? we usually load fonts as needed.
suitcaseX will autiomatically load fonts when a doc needs to access them.
it taxes the system to have all fonts loaded at one time.

This is different. FontBook will crash the system even if the fonts are not activated.

 

[rdowns]

i have over a 1000 fonts and never had that problem, photoshop is a bit slow, but all my other apps work great. My 2 cents

Jr

From MacAddict's April issue:

Reallocate PhotoShop's Memory:

...Adobe recommends using an often overlooked PhotoShop preference. PhotoShop>Preferences>Memory & Image Cache. In the dialog box that appears, look at the Memory Usage setting. By default, it's set at 50%. Adobe recommends increasing it to 75% (no higher).

 

[pulcinella2uk]

Are you running FontBook?

I had the same problem when i tried to transition from Suitcase to FontBook - FontBook has problems managing large numbers of fonts and simply isn't up to the job. It's okay for small amounts - but you need something like Suitcase for a lot of fonts. I can't quite remember but i think FontBook had problems when i had more than 100 or 200 fonts installed.

 

[AppleMatt]

It seems to me like 10.3.3 will be Panthers "sweet spot". IMO, 10.2.5 was Jaguars sweet spot.

Saying that, it would be nice if all future Apple builds went through this rigorous testing and fixed as many bugs as this one. I can't even count the number of bug-fixes, and it's good that some long-standing really obvious ones are beginning to be taken care of.

I'm interested to know when the QuickTime security flaw will be fixed.

AppleMatt

 

[encro]

do you need all fonts loaded at once? we usually load fonts as needed.
suitcaseX will automatically load fonts when a doc needs to access them.
it taxes the system to have all fonts loaded at one time.

OS X loads and unloads fonts on the fly so the system taxing only refers to OS 9 (ie. Redundant information now) . OS X will do what you require above from Suitcase by default...

 

[phillymjs]

They also have been saying that powermacs depend on 10.3.3 for their release.

If that's true and Apple releases 10.3.3 this week and does announce new Power Macs on March 23, then don't expect them to ship for at least a few weeks after the announcement. They'll need some time to press all those 10.3.3 installer DVDs for inclusion in the Power Mac boxes. I don't think a single week is enough lead time.

Having said that, I hope I'm wrong-- I'm DYING for a top-of-the-line dual G5 to replace my Quicksilver 733, and I have been since January.

~Philly

 

[bit density]

So, the answer is no ink, but bloody expensive blank discs. I see.

Possibly,in the beginning.

HP has claimed a 10-15 cent difference in price for media. Compared to the price of media, that is a lot for cd-rs and not too bad for dvds.

However, in value... I think it is worth 15 cents. Almost any non-sharpie solution runs about that, and I think this is way cool, especially for burning on the run.

I would expect that initially you would have to get media from Apple, but I also expect that once this became ubiquitous that the media costs would be near nil.

(But you know what, I want one now, because they are so dang cool...)

 

[yamabushi]

how bout those newly released plextor SATA dvd writers?

would be awesome if it was in the rev b g5's.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/pcworld/20040311/tc_pcworld/115150

That would be a great improvement for the towers. It could make the design more flexible by opening the possibility of using either SATA hard drives or optical drives in the same bays. In addition using identical SATA hard drives in three or more drive bays would make a RAID 5 array feasible with a controller card. An optical drive in an external device could be still be used in such a configuration.

 

[dantec]

Does Anyone remember ?

Apple usually releases a special version of the current Mac OS X build for it's machines... With the G5's being an exception (with the release of 10.2.7)...

Usually it's the current system version + a new build number and obviously drivers for that system.

I have a hard time believing or wondering why they would delay the release of new powermacs because of 10.3.3... Locically like before they would just put 10.3.2 on the CD's with a special build number and the appropriate drivers.

Can anyone think of anything major they would need to change for these new powermacs ? I don't think the 970FX needs a new kernal or new 64bit extensions... unless I am mistaken...

 

[daveL]

Can anyone think of anything major they would need to change for these new powermacs ? I don't think the 970FX needs a new kernal or new 64bit extensions... unless I am mistaken...

Well, there's PowerTune, which didn't exist in the original 970. There may also be changes to the system controller to accommodate updated bus/memory speeds or changes to Hyperchannel interconnects.

 

[AidenShaw]

PPC970FX does not have HyperTransport (nor does PPC970)

...or changes to Hyperchannel interconnects.

Note that it's "HyperTransport", and that the PPC970FX doesn't have any HyperTransport capability. (Neither does the original PPC970.)

So maybe there are HT changes coming, but that's orthogonal to the issue of changes due to the PPC970FX itself.

 

[mustang_dvs]

is it just me, or have we seen a LOT of "Mac OS X 10.3.3 (7F_something_) Seeded" rumors? what does this mean? was the origional really buggy?

Trust me, this is not unusual. Most of the OS X releases have seen upwards of 4-5 developer seeds per release. It's why Apple goes beyond internal testing prior to software release - they can't anticipate all configurations and conflicts in-house.

Well they were correct a month ago when they said that powermacs would not come out until March or April. If they are correct about Powermacs coming out within 7-10 days or at the release of 10.3.3 you have to eat your words about MOSR.

Yes, if you noticed, they made that revision to their predictions after MacRumors, AppleInsider and ThinkSecret (and AtAT) said not to expect G5 updates at MacWorld, either in mid-late Feb, or in March/April.

Show me the last time that MOSR made correct assertions, prior to similar rumors being published by MacRumors, TS, AI and AtAT. (And the minor, 'no-duh' predictions, which they are rarely right about, don't count.) And as for 10.3.3., predicting new hardware after a hardware-related release isn't all that insightful.

That sounds like a "newbie" thing to say. Lets have some fun speculation here.

Wow, is that a quote or what!
With that in mind, who needs to surf rumour sites?

I was just commenting on the rash of ridiculous "new PowerMacs this Tuesday" rumors that pop up every week. If you're waiting to buy new hardware that you need, don't. If you'd like to upgrade, but can wait, set a target date and if there are no new macs by that point, go ahead and buy the current model. Just because MOSR says "new PowerMac G7e's next month!" doesn't mean its going to happen - software and hardware bugs are hard to predict, and the 90nm G5 is having some problems.


And, as for the 20" iMac problems in the earlier builds, it wasn't pretty, but the NDA prevents me from saying more. Regardless, it was isolated and won't affect you guys.

 

[MacSlut]

Possibly,in the beginning.

HP has claimed a 10-15 cent difference in price for media. Compared to the price of media, that is a lot for cd-rs and not too bad for dvds.

However, in value... I think it is worth 15 cents. Almost any non-sharpie solution runs about that, and I think this is way cool, especially for burning on the run.

I would expect that initially you would have to get media from Apple, but I also expect that once this became ubiquitous that the media costs would be near nil.

(But you know what, I want one now, because they are so dang cool...)

Also consider the implications of having a better backside than what we currently see on CD-Rs...at least I hope the backsides will be durable...seems likely anyway. If they are durable, then they should market this as another advantage.

 

[ingenious]

dont jump to conclusions!

Naw, don't get your hopes up. Judging by www.apple.com, Apple isn't a hardware company anymore. They are only into software and thingy's.

Ok ive got to respond to this and point out the obvious:

If apple isnt a hardware company anymore like you say, then who's gonna make a computer for their mac only os? I think that what you said was a little jump-the-gun and not thought through. N/o

 

[daveL]

Note that it's "HyperTransport", and that the PPC970FX doesn't have any HyperTransport capability. (Neither does the original PPC970.)

So maybe there are HT changes coming, but that's orthogonal to the issue of changes due to the PPC970FX itself.

Of course, you are correct on "HyperTransport". I've been in the business so long, the acronyms are starting to overlap

I didn't say a thing about the 970 or 970FX having HyperTransport capability. I was talking about the system and I/O controllers. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

 

[RayCon]

I recently installed upwards of 700 fonts and suddenly neither safari, ichat, nor apple's mail would work for morer than a few seconds before crashing. I thought it might be the fonts, so I took them out and the iapps started to work properly again. Does Panther have a limit for the number of fonts displayed in a menu? They should really work this issue out in the next update.

Maybe it's not the number of fonts you have. One of my font apps showed that I had 1043 fonts installed. No crashes. Have you considered corruption?

 

[WM.]

I don't understand what this desktop/sidebar volume mounting business is all about? Every time I connect to a network or another computer it mounts on the desktop and in the sidebar for me.

You're using Connect to Server (cmd-K), not the Network icon in the sidebar. When you use the Network icon, in 10.3-10.3.2, the mounted volumes don't show up in the sidebar or on the desktop. 10.3.3 will fix this.

About printing there is one thing that really, really bugs me. When you print.... if you want to switch the orientation to Landscape or Portrait you have to go to Page Setup.. which I ALWAYS forget about. It's not in the Print dialog. When the Print dialog comes up there are so many options and there is no reason it can not be done from there. You can go to Layout Options in the Print dialog but you can't change the orientation? Come on now. I really would like to know the reasoning behind this.

Well, my guess as to the reasoning is that the options in Page Setup affect the way you'll compose your document. If you change the orientation (or the paper size), your word-processing document will change its layout on-screen. But if you change the things in the Layout options in the Print dialog, your document will look the same on-screen, but it will print differently. Also, the options in the Print dialog are things that you might want to change for each printout of the same document, whereas the ones in Page Setup are probably going to stay the same for a given document.

Now you might ask why the Scale option is in Page Setup instead of Print. I really have no idea...I guess maybe it's a remnant of the OS 9 days. Also, I think those Layout options were in Page Setup back in 9, but they moved them for OS X. And it seems like that's just about the only visible change to printing since OS 9 (yes, CUPS is important, but once you get your printer set up, do you really notice it?). The Print dialog hasn't changed much for several years!! I hope that 10.4 brings us some really cool innovation all around, especially in the printing area.

Oh, and when typing in textfields like this one if you could undo your mistakes (cmd-z).... like the one I just made and forgot what I typed previously,

Yeah, I'd like that too. I think I submitted some feedback to the Safari team about that. I suggest you do the same.

that would be great.. "mmmm yeaaaaaa" (b. lumberg).

Love that movie!!

WM

 

[crees!]

You're using Connect to Server (cmd-K), not the Network icon in the sidebar. When you use the Network icon, in 10.3-10.3.2, the mounted volumes don't show up in the sidebar or on the desktop. 10.3.3 will fix this.

I got ya. I'm assuming this update will take care of computers not showing up in the Network icon. I only see my computer under it. The only way to connect to other computers for me is via Connect To Server.

 

[wrldwzrd89]

I got ya. I'm assuming this update will take care of computers not showing up in the Network icon. I only see my computer under it. The only way to connect to other computers for me is via Connect To Server.

I'm having an equally perplexing issue with network shares (well, it isn't on my computer, but I'm helping this person solve it). Anyway, the problem is that when connected via AirPort wireless, AppleTalk shares don't show up on the Network icon. I haven't yet tested an Ethernet connection. On my own computer, I get intermittent issues with computers not showing up in Network. I'm also experiencing an annoying icon bug where my icons randomly get corrupted. To fix it, I have to quit all applications, rebuild my Classic desktop file, then log out and back in for the change to take effect. The afffected icon(s) are always different. I hope 10.3.3 fixes all three of these issues.

 

[bankshot]

- NFS automounter now maintains connections in use

Interesting. I just reported an automounter bug last weekend, but this description doesn't quite fit it (although I've seen this behavior in certain circumstances too). I suppose I can only dream that they got to my bug this quickly? Then again, I did point them to the source file/lines that I thought were causing the problem, shouldn't have been THAT difficult...