Mac OS X 10.3.3 Released

[Tailwind]

POWERBOOK FAN FIX <-----

I assume you had the fan problem before? ... I'd really like to know, my fan is driving me crazy. Damn thing turns on when the drive is barely warm.

If you've got a PowerBook fan problem, try this fix - Reset the PMU (Power Management Unit).

Reset PMU - PowerBook G4 (12-inch), PowerBook G4 (12-inch DVI), PowerBook G4 (15-inch FW 800), PowerBook G4 (17-inch) and PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.33GHz) Check Kbase article for other models.

1. If the computer is on, turn it off.
2. Reset the power manager by simultaneously pressing and then releasing Shift-Control-Option-power on the keyboard. Do not press the fn (Function) key while using this combination of keystrokes.
3. Wait 5 seconds.
4. Press the power button to restart the computer.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449

After some updates, PMU settings get scrambled and PB fans run more than they should. This cleans them up.

 

[Doctor Q]

Doctor Q do you know how to go about setting a network between a Power Mac & PowerBook that is using a wireless connection?

I've set up a few networks, but there's no reason to address your question to me specifically when there are 29,999 other forum members here waiting to help too! You can PM me if you want personal service, but it'll probably be more efficient to tell all of us what kind equipment you have so anyone here can help.

 

[Renko31]

Interface Bug/Crash?

Hi

Upgraded to X.3.3. OK for first day, then I've had a weird interface crash (see attached image). It eventually locks the machine. Have reverted to 10.3, but problem persists (although hasn't crashed machine yet).

The only other software I've installed recently (and prior to X.3.3) was for my Epson R200 and Norton SystemWorks 3.0. Both seemed to work fien with X.3.2 and X.3.3.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks.

Renko

PB G4 867MHz 40GB HDD 640MB RAM

 

[TorbX]

1. I have the hardware icon in sys prefs. is there a way to set the CPU to auto, instead of just nap or not nap? if its not on nap, it runs constantly. (theres a tip for the ppl with the fan crzy PBs)

Hello

I'm on a norwegian verision of OS X. Could you please specify where this hardware icon is? Is it the light bulb?

(Gee, when I come to think of it, we have no norwegian word for "hardware"...!)

 

[Counterfit]

Hello

I'm on a norwegian verision of OS X. Could you please specify where this hardware icon is? Is it the light bulb?

(Gee, when I come to think of it, we have no norwegian word for "hardware"...!)

The hardware preference pane is part of developer tools. The icon is an unlabeled G4 processor. It allows you to control certain aspects of the hardware. I.E. turning off one of the multiple processors, or changing the size/existence of the L2/L3 cache. Of course, you can't add anything that isn't there

 

[TorbX]

The hardware preference pane is part of developer tools. The icon is an unlabeled G4 processor. It allows you to control certain aspects of the hardware. I.E. turning off one of the multiple processors, or changing the size/existence of the L2/L3 cache. Of course, you can't add anything that isn't there

This sucks. This REALLY really sucks. I dont know whats up with Apple. "Lets make'em blow! ALL THE TIME! HAHAHA!!!"

This is really, really, really annoying, and I cannot put words on it how irritating this ****ty blowing is. I can hear the bones in my body crackle. I have a funny vain in my forehead now. And my face is red and sweaty.

 

[seraphnyc]

Since Apple seems to be releasing the new ATI drivers (unavailable at ATI website) maybe it would be helpful to send a bug report to Apple. Hopefully if they see the problem is occurring with more than one person, they'll do something about it. Otherwise, keep me posted if you find a fix.

Well the good news is that VLC does play DVD's just fine in 10.3.3 but it is the most annoying thing in the world to do being that you don't have actual DVD controls (at least int he version of VLC I have tried). But nonetheless it does play them fine and in fact sharper than in the previous version of the DVD player (in my experience).

It is very clear that it is a problem stemming from the updated DVD Player application and it interaction with the New ATI drivers. I have sent an email off to apple concerning this and have pointed them to this forum. I do hope this is fixed soon.

In the interim I have found that if you install the DVD Player from the Panther discs (going back a version) that it works just fine.

There goes my report on the DVD player issue.. either go back one version from the Panther discs or use VLC or some other media player that will play video_ts folders. Now I am back to raid, pillage, plunder and other wise pilfer my weasley black guts out.

 

[zync]

The hardware preference pane is part of developer tools. The icon is an unlabeled G4 processor. It allows you to control certain aspects of the hardware. I.E. turning off one of the multiple processors, or changing the size/existence of the L2/L3 cache. Of course, you can't add anything that isn't there

You know whats weird....the Chud tools don't work at all on my PowerBook....if I set a setting it removes it!

 

[Gaffa Bug]

Well the good news is that VLC does play DVD's just fine in 10.3.3 but it is the most annoying thing in the world to do being that you don't have actual DVD controls (at least int he version of VLC I have tried). But nonetheless it does play them fine and in fact sharper than in the previous version of the DVD player (in my experience).

It is very clear that it is a problem stemming from the updated DVD Player application and it interaction with the New ATI drivers. I have sent an email off to apple concerning this and have pointed them to this forum. I do hope this is fixed soon.

In the interim I have found that if you install the DVD Player from the Panther discs (going back a version) that it works just fine.

Thanks for the info. Is there any way to replace DVD Player 4.0 with an older version (without going back to 10.3.2)? Before I did the .3 upgrade, I copied the DVD Player app from 10.3.2 on a CD... then after the problem in 10.3.3, I deleted DVD 4.0 and tried to replace it with the older version, but it didn't work. -It still was version 4.0. Most peculiar. Anyway, if I did an archive install of 10.3, wouldn't it still NOT work?

 

[thejazzman10]

wierd

i have a wierd story....i was downlading it, then when i was almost done, there was a kernal panic... i thought to myself" well great. now i have to do this again, so i rebooted, fired up software update, and it wasnt there, so i mouse on over to about this mac and it says 10.3.3 (it hadn't even finished downloading!!) then 5 minutes later, another panic, and now everything is fine!!
....wierd

 

[realityisterror]

jazzman: you sure have a wierd way of spelling weird. no offense, but try this in safari: edit -> spelling -> check spelling as you type. word style underlines in input boxes...

all: i had a weird thing happen too. i was downloading and the dock froze up. i always try to quit it via activity monitor and hope it'll restart. it does restart, but it's not showing. i would usually try to restart as that's the only way (logging out won't work) but i only had 15MB left so about 10 min. i waited and waited and thought maybe i could pause installing but keep the downloaded file, but i decided to just install it. i wonder if it was related to the update. i had a good feeling, and nothing happened in the end. but wierd or weird depending on your preferences.

reality

 

[zync]

jazzman: you sure have a wierd way of spelling weird. no offense, but try this in safari: edit -> spelling -> check spelling as you type. word style underlines in input boxes...

all: i had a weird thing happen too. i was downloading and the dock froze up. i always try to quit it via activity monitor and hope it'll restart. it does restart, but it's not showing. i would usually try to restart as that's the only way (logging out won't work) but i only had 15MB left so about 10 min. i waited and waited and thought maybe i could pause installing but keep the downloaded file, but i decided to just install it. i wonder if it was related to the update. i had a good feeling, and nothing happened in the end. but wierd or weird depending on your preferences.

reality

This is OT I guess but I think I've probably spelled weird as wierd before, actually I probably haven't...but in his defense he's at least following english rules...i is supposed to supersede e unless they both follow a c....like tied and ceiling....weird is just well, weird....

 

[WM.]

Is there any way to replace DVD Player 4.0 with an older version (without going back to 10.3.2)? Before I did the .3 upgrade, I copied the DVD Player app from 10.3.2 on a CD... then after the problem in 10.3.3, I deleted DVD 4.0 and tried to replace it with the older version, but it didn't work. -It still was version 4.0.

Actually, it did work. DVD Player 4.0 was introduced with Panther, and neither 10.3.2 nor 10.3.3 changed the version number. So, most likely, you do have the 10.3.2 version now (which I would stick with).

The only way to know for sure, though, is to see if you're still having the same problems. We shouldn't just assume that the version number means you are or aren't.

HTH
WM

 

[Gaffa Bug]

Actually, it did work. DVD Player 4.0 was introduced with Panther, and neither 10.3.2 nor 10.3.3 changed the version number. So, most likely, you do have the 10.3.2 version now (which I would stick with).

The only way to know for sure, though, is to see if you're still having the same problems. We shouldn't just assume that the version number means you are or aren't.

HTH
WM

Thanks for your help WM.

 

[evilsprung]

Permissions issue

after installing the .3 patch, when i ran the disk utility there always this msg of
Determining correct file permissions.
We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util. New permissions are 33261
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume


Is this normal?? i've ran the repair for like million times, and each time it shows this msg. The computer seems a bit unstable too.

Yeah same here. Does anyone know why the permissions would change to a new set?

 

[sjk]

Repair Disk Permissions

See the Repair perms... shades of rebuild desktop thread on the maxosx-admin list archive for recent discussion and answers to questions about Repair Disk Permissions.

 

[Tailwind]

New PB fan fix!!!

There are now two fixes for excess PB fan blowing after a major update like 10.3.3. In addition to resetting the PMU (see previous post). There is no harm in trying both, though the system clock will need to be reset.

MacFixIt offers this:

http://www.macfixit.com/index.php?date=2004-03-22

Resetting PRAM slows fan to regular speed

We previously reported issues with excessive fan noise after applying the Mac OS X 10.3.3 update, namely constant running of the fan even during inactive, apparently low-heat periods.

MacFixIt reader Koyo Yuki was able to resume "normal" fan operation by resetting his PowerBook's PRAM:

"My PowerBook G4 (Titanium/667MHz) had the excessive fan activity at full speed after updating to 10.3.3, which is involved with excessive heat on the PowerBook. The problem was completely resolved by resetting PRAM in my case, though I can't tell if the heat (processor) and fan control is improved yet."

Resetting PRAM can be accomplished by shutting down the computer, turning it back on and immediately pressing the Command-Option-P-R keys as described in Knowledge Base article #2238.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238

 

[Lucky736]

HALO AFTER 10.3.3

Graphics in the OS are alot smotther. Like they were in 10.3.2, lots less choppiness. That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update. Everything else seems a hair quicker though, and quartz extreme seems to work better again. My 0.02


Mike

OVERALL A GOOD UPGRADE, MY POWERBOOK SHOULDN'T BE AN EXPENSIVE PS2 ANYWAY

AHHHHH ATI fix the Video Drivers!

 

[grafikat]

My emac 800mb and G5 seem happy as clams

 

[nbevan]

Password expired

With all the glowing reviews I must be doing something wrong; however...

SMB with my Win2K server had been sort of flaky for me before (especially when waking from sleep) but it did work. I could click 'Connect...' in Finder under the Network browser, it would prompt me for username and password (which it would never save to the keychain even if I clicked the box), and I'd be connected. Now I go through that same sequence, same username and password, and I get:

The alias "<servername>" could not be opened, because the original item could not be found.

My server is listed right there in the finder ... how could it not be found?

If I do Go/Connect to Server, I type in smb://10.0.0.39, then enter my username and password, and get:

The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in "smb://10.0.0.39" could not be read or written. (Error code -36).

Again, something must be wrong in my settings or my methods, but at this point it's hard not to say that I'm worse off SMB-wise with 10.3.3 than I was with 10.3.2. At this point, I'm dead in the water.

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I have exactly the same symptoms, but only with my login (other people could log in to the server from my machine). It seems to be related to an expired password, as when the administrator turned off password expiry I could log in OK.

 

[jsw]

...That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update.
...
AHHHHH ATI fix the Video Drivers!

Yeah, same here. I thought Halo looked good, but I only jumped into it for a second and didn't do anything. It's definitely messed up on my system as well.

Oh well, back to work and/or WCIII! Halo can wait...